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March Wrasslin' |OT| Don't Forget, You're Here Forever.
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RE6 delivered on that point. Who knew Helena was a big puroresu fan? Her technique is impeccable.
I'm guessing the line of thinking is that she didn't "earn" her heat. Meanwhile, dudes in here are getting tight because she's waving a flag on a PPV poster.
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It's pointless to argue with people who think Eva's accomplished something.
She's simply hated because she's vapid and forced upon an audience who wants nothing to do with her. Vickie Guerrero achieved this with overexposure, nepotism, and being shrill.
Compare that to a Fabulous Moolah who was hated because she was a villain.
One involves psychology and talent. One is no achievement at all.
She's simply hated because she's vapid and forced upon an audience who wants nothing to do with her. Vickie Guerrero achieved this with overexposure, nepotism, and being shrill.
Compare that to a Fabulous Moolah who was hated because she was a villain.
One involves psychology and talent. One is no achievement at all.
X-pac heat is not heat.WWE Hall of Famer Madusa gets it about Eva Marie. Listen closely.
What use is having all this heat if no one knows how to capitalise on it?
WWE's audience is supposedly kids and families and not Internet smart fans. Which demographic does she have "heat" with? What storyline has her working either demographic to make money?
Everything is so half assed.
In a year no one will care in either direction for her and not a dime was made.
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I'm not gonna argue with one of the biggest forces in women's wrestling, though. She would know more about it than me, I'm just a guy on the internet.
How many Liquidsnakes do you think are out there? She draws money.
This is all good enough for me. I'm bored with the Eva Marie conversation. It just seems like the same old dudes being contrarian for funsies. It's tired.
Madusa's one of the best, but I'm just not sure Eva's got the type of heat that makes people wanna fork over their cash. But if Eva can draw, she can draw.
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You really think Madusa has nothing better to do with her time?
Yes. Wasn't she picking a Twitter fight with someone recently-ish?
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Paige? She's still relevant!
I don't remember. I wasn't even talking about know-nothing Madusa anyway. I was talking about you dilds.
Would you really? That match would be terrible.
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Eva has heat because she is a throwback to the Johnny Ace era which no one wants
What is Eva Marie's character? A 'Total Diva'/reality star first, wrestler second; the vapid model type, etc. Sure, someone that has X-Pac heat can be draw but WWE just put her on a face tag team for WrestleMania. Clearly, they don't understand what the Eva Marie character is or the type of heat she gets. If they were smart they would pair her up with heel Roman like so many people have been suggesting.
Whether or not she draws is irrelevant because WWE don't understand why she's hated and will crowbar her in wherever they can.
Well I was close about the go home segment.
Damn straight. You could walk into any model agency and find another Eva Marie in seconds. A good looking girl that can't wrassle for shit.
Let's dispel once and for all with the fiction that Vince McMahon doesn't know what he is doing, he knows exactly what he is doing.
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Eh, she has to be able to act. She is a Total Divas veteran, after all.
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She's got a little heat with you.
Let's fix it all up. Let's have an Eva Marie Legendary Matches viewing party in Tulsa.
Eva can acted?
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Think I'm going to try and watch every Mania main event before Sunday. Will report back with rankings, gifs, and thoughts.
What are you doing for Mania?
I'm not saying we should have a radical party, though, as you cannot be trusted.
Well I obviously support this endeavor.
No one called anyone a gimmick anything.
Here's my thinking, Zachtista. A heel done to the standards of what you guys think a heel should be would actually be enjoyed by you, so what's the point? I'm of the belief that Eva is booked as a heel for ISEC smarks who think they have it all figured out. The more WWE "doesn't get it", the more you talk. The New Kayfabe, if you will.
Also, I'd appreciate if you stopped being so dismissive of opposing views. That, is truly tried.
Also, I'd appreciate if you stopped being so dismissive of opposing views. That, is truly tried.
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I'm having just one person over to enjoy it for their first time. I really, REALLY enjoy watching WrasslinMania with non-fans. I love watching ALL wrestling with non-fans. Gives me some much needed perspective.
Are you going to NXT in Tulsey Town? I figure we should do a mini Wrasslin-GAF meetup before the NXT show at a spot downtown.
They'll finally stop holding Dean Ambrose back so he'll deliver one hell of a hardcore match at WM?
NXT is coming to Tulsa?
Edit: Sheeeeiiiiiii... May 7. I did not know this. I'm looking into it.
I don't want to be pessimistic but if Rock's segment is anything more substantial than last year's I'll be surprised.
That's true, wrestling in Japanese pop culture has a less corny image than in the West actually! It's pretty interesting to see.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
WWE Hall of Famer Madusa gets it about Eva Marie. Listen closely.
No, the difference between heel heat and go away heat is that you can make money off of heel heat. Where's the Eva Marie money?
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And OKC. And Salina.
OKC Fri, Tulsa Sat.
https://twitter.com/TripleH/status/714529405238964225
BOK Center in Tulsa. Saturday? Sounds PERFECT to me.
Yearp, it's refreshing.
As Zach just proved, WrassleGAF is a like-minded echo chamber that often refuses to acknowledge anything but the narrow portion of the audience they represent.
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How many Liquidsnakes are there? I know he's one in a million, not trying to take anything away from Liquidsnake but still. Lots of people feel the same way.
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WWE should stop being so concerned with trying to work 'smart' fans into reacting the way they want and concentrate on providing a good product - when the content is good, the fanbase will react accordingly. It's that fucking simple.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Not that many? I'm reasonably sure everyone who has ever been on TV has at least one big fan. Hell, my wife asks about Biff Busick literally every time NXT comes on and he was on a televised show exactly once and she found him really entertaining.
wild wild rice
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Brooklyn booing every time Roman lands a hit...when will it end with this dude?
Was the crowd chanting "we want Asuka" during the Diva's match?
New Day entertaining as usual.
Was the crowd chanting "we want Asuka" during the Diva's match?
New Day entertaining as usual.
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