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If wwe was,going to,have a boom,it would,have been last year after 30. Cesaro,Wyatt,Bryan and shield guys should be leading the company.
Yet is still cena, big show and kane
Yet is still cena, big show and kane
March Wrasslin' |OT| Forecast for Wrestlemania...cloudy with a heavy chance of Reigns
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That'll get people really excited for Sting/Taker, I'm sure.
sf2fanatic
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More of the NES tecmo bowl guy
what do you think, was Cena a Nintendo guy or more of a Playstation guy back in the 90's?
what do you think, was Cena a Nintendo guy or more of a Playstation guy back in the 90's?
A goober with a Jaguar.
Shit. Come oooooon, TV editing. Maybe they'll cut out the really bad bits. Still excited for the other two matches and the backstage reveal of the dude in the cage.
HOMEBOY OVER HERE
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I love the way wwe is with kayfabe and real life merging but the creative sucks big time. wwe would feel real fresh if they ran with this reality era stuff with the right stars and better creative
WWE fucked up so badly after WM30 it was sickening.
Mr. Luchador
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I love how 90s that shirt is. IRON ON!
I think it not that , regins,Rollin s, and some what Bryan are in big spots the problem is booking and wwe ability to fuck up everything good.
slightconfuse
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That ship has sailed. I'm happy we'll at least get to see him in what should be an awesome IC ladder match.literally no rumors or a big match for daniel bryan
i wanna see daniel bryan shoot next raw
I've come to accept that we are currently witnessing The New Generation 2.0. Vince is going to push forward with what he sees as hot shit, no matter how it's received by fans. Merch is still selling well? The product is over with children and marks? That's success in his eyes. There's plenty of documented proof of his active disdain for the educated/smark fan. The man barely uses computers, the Internet fan barely exists in his world. There needs to be some kind of catastrophic event to change his current plan of attack, like his death for instance.
With that said, I understand that Vince sees this as his life, not a job. He is not open to people telling him how to run his life. Obviously that has a lot of problems when you're doing that with a pubicly traded company with passionate employees depending on you.
I was severely disappointed when Booker didn't say "Tell me you didn't just say that?" after Hunter "fired" him.
They have such horrible writers.
Some fans just grow out of it. For some it was a fad. Some just grew tired of it. Regardless, it will always survive as a niche at least.
Not sure if there will ever be another Rock, Stone Cold, or Hulk Hogan. I always wonder about say the next Metallica or Guns N Roses. Will probably never happen again.
That's like ALL of WCW's early merch.
also Scott Hall is almost looking as devilishly handsome older gentleman as Big Kev.
FallingEdge
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After I get my horseman sweatshirt
best version of the horseman as well
Scott looks amazingly great considering where he used to be
Stupid lazy wrestlers sitting out their contract.
spindashing
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For real. DDP is a life saver.
I loved how WWE tried to paint that as the WCW guys being bad for sitting out their contracts when in reality it just made WWE look bad for rushing into the Invasion angle so soon.
Mr. Luchador
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Hey, don't get me wrong here. I watch WWE every week and I enjoy the bits I enjoy and the bits I don't I just forget about or fast forward through. In a way I can't blame WWE for their current 'safe' product as there's no real reason for them to mix it up beyond what it currently is. I wouldn't say it's 'failing' as people are still watching, there doesn't seem to be any pressure from TV Networks for them to bring more viewers in, etc so why change the formula? I'm sure at some point they'll have to change it up, and I'm sure they'll be able to do it; after all those McMahons can seemingly survive anything.
Patience would have been good. Sure. Absolutely.
Fuck that even, Vince could have bought them out, but he didn't want to spend the cash. He works have made so much money on PPV buys he could have easily earned those millions back.
What WWE needs is another Ted Turner type person to start up his own promotion and compete against WWE.
Add Goldberg, Flair, and I'd say Sting to that list as well (granted they were never going to land Sting). My invasion angle would have made the nWo a third faction that WWF and WCW would have to team up to defeat in traditional comic book superhero fight fashion.
Add Goldberg, Flair, and I'd say Sting to that list as well (granted they were never going to land Sting). My invasion angle would have made the nWo a third faction that WWF and WCW would have to team up to defeat in traditional comic book superhero fight fashion.
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Mr. Luchador
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Man, that would have been pretty interesting to watch. It sort of played out like that in the end, when the NWO were bought in to try and clear our Flair. Sadly, that all fizzled out as quickly as it started.
I'm gonna say neither D. Bry or Reigns are the type of personalities that say your grandma would like. Not much cross over appeal. Not like Hulk Hogan Brother.
But D. Bry at least got many hardcore fans back on board and made for some fun crowds. But looking at the ratings, just can't attract much beyond it seems.
But D. Bry at least got many hardcore fans back on board and made for some fun crowds. But looking at the ratings, just can't attract much beyond it seems.
If WWE would go away I think US pro wrestling would become "territory" driven again for maybe a decade until someone started up a new national promotion. Indies would become the new territories.
Uno Venova
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This is great, it's funny how much of their opinions in their burial of WCW disguised as an unbiased documentary apply to the current product.
Someone would come and do it , there is to much money in it.
I'm not one of those that fantasizes about WWE going out of business. It's stupid.
See, this isn't just something fun for Vince to do. The guy literally does not sleep constantly pushing this machine. It's not just a fucking job. It's a way of life. You need insane people like Vince and say Steve Jobs to get companies to where they are.
A fun little promotion is gonna do fuck all.
edit: I don't know where I heard it. Some Podcast I guess. They talked about how some promotions like TNA have workers that treat it like a 9 to 5 job. They just do the bare minimum and are frankly fine with it. That's why they can never beat Vince. That work ethic is fucking unacceptable Vince. Man... I would be terrified if he was my boss. I'd have no life.
what do you think, was Cena a Nintendo guy or more of a Playstation guy back in the 90's?
Cena would be bragging about finally getting a 3DO because "I'm the shit".
WWE isn't just going away. However, they'll lose their TV deal on a prime Network soon (still years from now), lose viewers as they move to a lesser channel and slowly dwindle.
Their future depends on the Network and how effective they are at attracting new viewers in a post cable/VOD world. Is WWE a strong enough product to get people to buy their product without that weekly "free TV" exposure? That's the question.
Levesque's WWE is gonna be very interesting in that sense, it's gonna take place in world where traditional TV slowly dies out, and that's where WWE's biggest challenge lies. The Network was a bold move, but definitely the right one considering that. Vince is a smart guy like that, still.
Ignoring that the only reason the Network is VOD is because they couldn't find a cable company willing to run a premium TV channel for WWE.
I mean they are the only big time wrestling promotion outside of NJPW that still exists.
If McDonald's suddenly became the last worldwide chain of restaurants, it wouldn't mean that the world needs them.
Wrestling would probably be better In the long run if WWE ceased to exist. It would open the doors for far more progressive companies to push for the top spot. Although it would take years to fill the void, and it would definitely effect those living on that WWE upper-level paycheck.
But that isn't going to happen. It's what makes me keep watching because I know this is it.
hilarious. those monday night wars shows on the network are a goldmine for quotes that apply both to the dying wcw, the dying wwf from 1996, and the current product.
Sibersk Esto
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If WWE went under American professional wrestling would die, simple as that.
slightconfuse
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WWE going under would just lead to American independent wrestlers doing like joshis do and just retiring young because it's not worth the risk to your health to either keep working indies or hope you get noticed by a foreign company and spend a lot of your time in airports.
and it's WWE's fault that it's that way, but it is that way.
and it's WWE's fault that it's that way, but it is that way.
Wrestling promotions come and go. Nother last forever and this case if the WWE were to experience a downfall, another promotion will take its place.The promotion was very close to fate in the mid 90s because of strong competition.
So you never know what could happen between now and down the road. TNA could get a bigger deal and fire dixie, ROH could get a bigger deal, and even NJPW could have a secondary promotion in America that could blow people away. I just don't buy WWE being the mecca of professional wrestling when there's always a competitor to go against the crown. It was only yesterday that WWE crowds were chanting TNA.
Indie promotions wouldn't suddenly stop.
A company like ROH would grab a national TV time slot.
It would shrink drastically, but over time it would come back. America loves wrestling.
EDIT: I would take a long ass time for it to become a big commercialized thing again though. Could take a decade.
It will never die. It will just go the underground like heavy metal music. You know..just you and a dozen of other really uncool people like yourself.
oh well :\
slightconfuse
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The territories coming back,would,be some what dope
Professional wrestling will live on period. It's not like the NFL or NBA. If anything, it would help promotions step up to get the brass ring and territories would become a major thing like it was in the 80s.
Bottom line, WWE is not the heart of professional wrestling. Its a big factor, but the trains keeps moving after it's demise.
Bottom line, WWE is not the heart of professional wrestling. Its a big factor, but the trains keeps moving after it's demise.
You would need another Vince to rise form the ashes.
i dont agree with this. i dont think WWE will ever go under due to a decline in popularity/customers, if it goes under it will be due to bad business decisions that hurt the company financially. if WWE would go under i think a lot of their former fanbase would gravitate towards the indie promotions, and I think one of the indie groups would end up growing into the eventual replacement.
it would depend on how WWE went out of business. also a new company isn't going to rise up and grab the spot WWE spent 30 years earning right away like that.