you'll find that 'fighting champion' bret hart took SEVERAL easy wins over the course of his wwf career
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March Wrasslin' |OT| Forecast for Wrestlemania...cloudy with a heavy chance of Reigns
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more like Batista vs Big Show
slightconfuse
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sf2fanatic
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But the crowd hate on Cena was excellent!!
If I recall, the first time Bret was champion, he was putting his title on the line against every jobber on Superstars. Truly a fighting champion.
Yoko was a guy that no amount of backsliding could hurt. He was always a beast, and an imposing site in a wrestling ring.
I'd even argue that John Cena himself couldn't have derailed the beast that is Yokozuna.
UberTag
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I love how the best evil foreigner gimmick ever was owned by a guy from Syracuse.
And just listen to JR sell both the angle and the beatdown. Whereas today you would just get silence from Michael Cole and company.
Serpens007
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God, Hassan was great. I wish they could have continued that gimmick
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Those were both the Hammerstein Ballroom, not the ECW Arena. Not too big a difference, but a difference none the less.
He criticized Diesel for interfering in his match with Undertaker but when you watch the match, Bret has no problem accepting Diesel's dirty work and immediately pinning Undertaker. And he does the exact same thing when Undertaker does it to Diesel a few weeks later.
sf2fanatic
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Here comes a new challenger!!!
notworksafe
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So is this bet on or not? Vince pls.
I didn't hear no bell.
notworksafe
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That's what I like to hear! Sandman, you better change your avatar back to Beast Mode!
Mr. Luchador
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CHIKARA 2002
Event #2
Much like the first show, this was released on DVD 8 years after it was recorded with retrospective commentary from Mike Quackenbush & Bryce Remsberg.
- Attendance is already way down from opening show. Opening show was probably ~100 people, second show seems to be 30 at best (some of which are CHIKARA Staff & Wrestle Factory Trainees). The crowd isn't very CHIKARAish and is the vocal rowdy kind of smarky, rather than Vegan Smark.
- The ref from the first event has been fired by Love Bug. He was terrible.
- Opening match is Blind Rage & Love Bug. It's a short match, not much about it other than it puts Blind Rage over as a Rudo with his low blow and attack after the match is over.
- Matt Wandle v Zane Madrox is the next match. Matt Wandle looks pretty indie generic, Zane makes his second CHIKARA appearance, offering food to those he walks past. I sort of like him. Comes out as a hillbilly with scraggly hair and a hat (hair is attached to the hair)! This match is full of heckles.
- Blind Rage does an interview, yet the audio balance is terrible. You can hear individual hecklers louder than the person on the mic. Anyway, Rage calls out The Nightshift (Hallowicked & Ichabod Crane) forming a 3 man alliance. They look the part. THEY GET NO RESPECT from Quackenbush.
- These early CHIKARA shows are odd as they're not entirely CHIKARA yet. However, it's really interesting seeing the seeds of their identity being formed. They had a 3-Man Tag Main Event on the last show, and they've just set another one up for this show - The Nightshift & Blind Rage v Quackenbush, Youth & Montoya.
- YES! One of my favourite original CHIKARA guys is on again - Mr. Zero. He's not the greatest wrestler, but he's the best character in CHIKARA right now. Also, I'll never forget the amazing spots he had with LA Parka.
He has a match against Ultra Mantis. Just Ultra Mantis, not Ultra Mantis Black as he's a técnicos! I can't really remember how or why Ultra Mantis became a Rudo so I'm looking forward to that.
Interestingly the commentary put over how Ultra Mantis' moveset is built around moves with double underhooks to work in his 'insect' character. Reckless & Quack thought Ultra Mantis and Mr. Zero would be the standouts from the first batch of students. It's a pretty good match, with some of the better moves, spots and characters in the show.
Event #2
Much like the first show, this was released on DVD 8 years after it was recorded with retrospective commentary from Mike Quackenbush & Bryce Remsberg.
- Attendance is already way down from opening show. Opening show was probably ~100 people, second show seems to be 30 at best (some of which are CHIKARA Staff & Wrestle Factory Trainees). The crowd isn't very CHIKARAish and is the vocal rowdy kind of smarky, rather than Vegan Smark.
- The ref from the first event has been fired by Love Bug. He was terrible.
- Opening match is Blind Rage & Love Bug. It's a short match, not much about it other than it puts Blind Rage over as a Rudo with his low blow and attack after the match is over.
- Matt Wandle v Zane Madrox is the next match. Matt Wandle looks pretty indie generic, Zane makes his second CHIKARA appearance, offering food to those he walks past. I sort of like him. Comes out as a hillbilly with scraggly hair and a hat (hair is attached to the hair)! This match is full of heckles.
- Blind Rage does an interview, yet the audio balance is terrible. You can hear individual hecklers louder than the person on the mic. Anyway, Rage calls out The Nightshift (Hallowicked & Ichabod Crane) forming a 3 man alliance. They look the part. THEY GET NO RESPECT from Quackenbush.
- These early CHIKARA shows are odd as they're not entirely CHIKARA yet. However, it's really interesting seeing the seeds of their identity being formed. They had a 3-Man Tag Main Event on the last show, and they've just set another one up for this show - The Nightshift & Blind Rage v Quackenbush, Youth & Montoya.
- YES! One of my favourite original CHIKARA guys is on again - Mr. Zero. He's not the greatest wrestler, but he's the best character in CHIKARA right now. Also, I'll never forget the amazing spots he had with LA Parka.
He has a match against Ultra Mantis. Just Ultra Mantis, not Ultra Mantis Black as he's a técnicos! I can't really remember how or why Ultra Mantis became a Rudo so I'm looking forward to that.
Interestingly the commentary put over how Ultra Mantis' moveset is built around moves with double underhooks to work in his 'insect' character. Reckless & Quack thought Ultra Mantis and Mr. Zero would be the standouts from the first batch of students. It's a pretty good match, with some of the better moves, spots and characters in the show.
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Nah, most of the people here have pretty much resigned themselves to the inevitability of Reigns's inevitable win. I think the only real question at this point is how WWE will respond to the backlash/apathy that it'll be met with and which will probably linger for months afterwords. Will they stick to their guns and keep Roman as Cena 2.0 for the next 10 years, or will they panic and revert back to Cena/Orton by SummerSlam?
Otani is the oldest looking 42 year old I've ever seen, but he is consistently one of my favorites in the promotion. I'm curious to see how this Wrestle-1/Zero-1 partnership goes. Zero-1's roster isn't always amazing, but I think it works because everyone fills a spot and fits their spot perfectly. Where as I feel like Wrestle-1 is just a bunch of people and no one really fits in.
I am really, really hoping Fujita's not gone from Zero-1, but it's starting to look like it. They're teasing Hidaka/Minoru Tanaka and they had Hidaka teaming with some other dudes in W1 instead of Fujita.
I am really, really hoping Fujita's not gone from Zero-1, but it's starting to look like it. They're teasing Hidaka/Minoru Tanaka and they had Hidaka teaming with some other dudes in W1 instead of Fujita.
I'm still counting on a Rollins cash in, it's pretty much the only way to contain the backlash.
UberTag
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Give him 6 months until a screwy loss to Sheamus at Night of Champions.
Cena didn't get to 15 title reigns by keeping the belt for long stretches at a time.
Reigns will get the belt back after Balor screws over Sheamus and turns face.
Reigns keeps the belt through Mania next year where Cena challenges him for title reign #16.
They pushed him to the moon so far...might as well double up to Mars. There's no stopping this train.
On another note,
Night 3 of NJPW Cup is kind of meh so far....
Couldn't Hideo come up as a bitter foreign heel who is angry that AMERICAN wrestlers stole all his shit? Team him with Heyman on that idea and he has lots of material to work with vs the roster.
American wrestlers did steal all his shit right?
notworksafe
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Ooh I like that idea!
"My client Hideo Itami doesn't care for all the young Punks who may have stolen from him...yeah you heard me! Ooo all you want!"
Sibersk Esto
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Hideo just needs a finisher no one has used before
Like the jumping complete shot
Like the jumping complete shot
I don't like this angle at all. Hideo is great as a no-nonsense technical brawler.
Fave 10 NXT:
1.) Sami Zayn
2.) Kevin Owens
3.) Sasha Banks
4.) Hideo Itami
5.) Adrian Neville
6.) Tyler Breeze
7.) Enzo Amore
8.) Charlotte
9.) Bayley
10.) Finn Balor... I guess.
StylesClash
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They dropped the ball hard with Hassan. He was damn good at his gimmick.
I think night 3 is just meant to be an interlude between the main shows. I have an hour left in the show and have been enjoying it for the action so far.
bitesnintendog
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Last time they had a hair match it pretty much turned into a scalping. TNA is to cheap to buy the good clippers.
Liquidsnake
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UberTag
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Hassan does what they tell him to do and they dump him from the roster immediately.
DeMott does what they tell him to do and they keep him in his spot for another two years while protecting/defending him and then send him off with a sweet severance package.
Serpentine
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how about... stay with me here... a swinging neckbreaker, only instead of using his hands to swing the head, he uses his leg
sazabirules
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Nice match with Cass/Enzo vs the Lucha Dragons.
dr3upmushroom
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Wonder if they'll ever have an ethnic focused character that's not a heel.
Ha, was the dude getting too much under people's skin?
I was meaning to ask, some gaffers where mentioning a couple days ago that JR was being a douchenozzle, what was the reason?
My attempt at writing a Roman Reigns promo.
"Brock, you call yourself the beast. You believe no single man can take you down. At Wrestlemania, when you look across the ring and see me, you won't just be looking at a man. You'll be looking at a one-man army. That's how I've lived my life, and that's what has gotten me this far. I've had my doubters. I've had dozens, hundreds, thousands, MILLIONS...of people and opponents come up against me. I'm no stranger to standing alone. It's been one versus all my entire life. One versus all. One...versus all. but the thing about those wars, Brock, is that every time it's one versus all, the all will fall. And now you come into the picture. A beast. A beast who believes he'll tear through me like he tore through the Undertaker and John Cena. A beast who believes he is facing any other man. But it's like I said, I'm not just one man. I'm a one-man army, and at Wrestlemania, when it's the one-man army versus the beast...I will make you believe, just like I've made everyone who ever doubted me believe, that I am more than what you see. At Wrestlemania, this one-man army is coming to conquer, to fight, to win, and to lead the revolution as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion. If you still don't believe that...just watch me make it happen."
"Brock, you call yourself the beast. You believe no single man can take you down. At Wrestlemania, when you look across the ring and see me, you won't just be looking at a man. You'll be looking at a one-man army. That's how I've lived my life, and that's what has gotten me this far. I've had my doubters. I've had dozens, hundreds, thousands, MILLIONS...of people and opponents come up against me. I'm no stranger to standing alone. It's been one versus all my entire life. One versus all. One...versus all. but the thing about those wars, Brock, is that every time it's one versus all, the all will fall. And now you come into the picture. A beast. A beast who believes he'll tear through me like he tore through the Undertaker and John Cena. A beast who believes he is facing any other man. But it's like I said, I'm not just one man. I'm a one-man army, and at Wrestlemania, when it's the one-man army versus the beast...I will make you believe, just like I've made everyone who ever doubted me believe, that I am more than what you see. At Wrestlemania, this one-man army is coming to conquer, to fight, to win, and to lead the revolution as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion. If you still don't believe that...just watch me make it happen."
dr3upmushroom
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Dude would already fumble and forget what to say past the second line.
"Brock, you call yourself the breastah, fuck it".
Serpentine
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fixed it up a bit
dr3upmushroom
Banned
I'm still traumatized by her tits.
https://youtu.be/Sw6naWylTrI?t=7m4s
This incident happened around the time of the bombings in London. Basically UPN didn't air this incident along with WWE releasing him.
Rafa=FedKilla
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I have a feeling the Mania main event is going to be an overbooked mess......