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March Wrasslin' |OT| Forecast for Wrestlemania...cloudy with a heavy chance of Reigns
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Sibersk Esto
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Can't think of any Samoa Joe moves that would be banned in the WWE
Yokokishi. He also takes the stink face.
Serpentine
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Yokouso. He's gonna be doing the haka and superkicks
They might just bring Joe in as Samoa Joe. He worked as that named in UPW before TNA against some familiar faces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN5uLr-Wc-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN5uLr-Wc-0
slightconfuse
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Man fuck taguchi
He has to get gold spiky hair if they do this.
Everyone should be a character. I want janitors and policemen and shit. Guy vs guy is dumb when there's no writing to support it. At least with characters, the shit writes itself.
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Anyone's like komatsu over tanaka?
Mr. Luchador
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Wasn't he mates with Cena during that time too?
Sibersk Esto
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Fuck that I don't want Paul Levesque or Shawn Higgenbottom
Richard Blood would've been fucking rad though.
I mean, it would've been better if he had been a vampire, but you know.
Samoey Joseph looking good before his NXT debut.
Looking forward to seeing his ROH matches.
Also, @BrockLesnarGuy posted this and said "He's back!" Not sure if it's actually Brock Lesnar guy.
Sibersk Esto
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Lol Steamboat was way too babyface for a name like that
Mr. Luchador
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I'm fine with 'fake names' and characters, as what matters is how they perform, not what they're called. I can see it from from WWE's point of view in that they build up this market name for someone and then they just leave to go elsewhere (Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, etc) with all that name value. So it makes sense for them to give a new performer a WWE Name.
At the same time I don't think it hurts an indie wrestler's value at all when it goes from the indies to the WWE and takes on a new name. Chances are the fans of that wrestler will have followed the progression and are looking forward to him appearing in the WWE. Just because they're not called Samoa Joe, or Kevin Owen, doesn't mean they're suddenly no longer Samoa Joe or Kevin Owen. Of course the booking that happens after that can change all of that...
At the same time I don't think it hurts an indie wrestler's value at all when it goes from the indies to the WWE and takes on a new name. Chances are the fans of that wrestler will have followed the progression and are looking forward to him appearing in the WWE. Just because they're not called Samoa Joe, or Kevin Owen, doesn't mean they're suddenly no longer Samoa Joe or Kevin Owen. Of course the booking that happens after that can change all of that...
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Jesusssss naito damn near killed ibushi
Pop-O-Matic
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You have too much faith in WWE Creative.
Sibersk Esto
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I hate "job" gimmicks. Like why would a racecar driver be a pro wrestler on the side?
notworksafe
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I agree. He's pretty cool.
They got burned on not owning the rights to too many dead wrestlers. It's foresight. But I still wish they were characters and not just dick in trunks.
Why would a UFC guy want to be a pro wrestler? Or a boxer? Or a whatever?
Guy vs guy is almost always better than character vs character.
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Ann.nD ibushi just killed naito
fu3lfr3nzy
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Cant see Joe keeping the Muscle Buster. bla bla opponents neck, etc
Looking over the twitter, 99.9% sure it is, or someone is really good at faking him.
He's living the gimmick.
Sibersk Esto
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Those are at least physical professions
That's why crowds nowadays hockey chant everything and hijack shows and shit. Character/character was dumb as shit, but at least it wasn't so boring that the paid audience found other shit to do.
You live the business, you die the business. Until the business changes and is what it is now. Living past 40?
Being a race car driver isn't physical? What about a trash man? Or a prison guard?
That's because nobody trusts WWE anymore.
People trust NXT to put on a show but most fans don't Dunn and Vince to do anything other than push cena or his samoen look alike.
Sibersk Esto
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Of course a Cesaro fan is advocating that everyone just becomes a regular guy with no character.
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OMG a Shibata/Homna tag team
Best team ever!!!
Best team ever!!!
sf2fanatic
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Screw WWE. He's a rebel. It prob give trips a smile if he uses them
#nextauthoritymember
JPeeples83
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Rey returns to the ring tonight at Rey de Reyes on iPPV - only $15, although AAA had a ton of issues with TripleMania on iPPV.
http://internetvluchalibreaaa.com
http://internetvluchalibreaaa.com
Fair enough. Also to clarify, I don't mean character as hokey "yo this is a clown and he's got a midget because clowns! Anything can happen!", but there has to be something to them. Like Terry Funk's a tough texan, Flair was a pretty boy, etc.
Cena having tack-on gimmick stuff like his salute and his walking merch stand makes him uninteresting to me. At least when he rapped, you wanted to see someone murder him for wrestling reasons and not to get him off your tv. Orton was a legend killer, now he's just a dude with Jax arms that is kinda drifting. The best example is probably Kane. He may as well just be Glen.
Sibersk Esto
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Oh sweet Suzuki won the title
Mr. Luchador
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Yeah there are far too many people playing the same role in current WWE.
I've been Go-Karting and I can imagine that it's exactly the same as F1 Racing, so basically I'm an expert in this matter; it's physical.
You don't need to have a cartoon gimmick to have a character. You can be a regular guy with personality and character.
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Fastball special!!
Sibersk Esto
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Cesaro comment still stands then
UberTag
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The main reason they don't do "job" gimmicks for WWE wrestlers any more is that they want to make every guy on the roster into a loser schmuck who NEEDS the WWE to feed his family and won't be able to even get so much as a minimum wage job elsewhere if they were to leave.
So no more wrestling plumbers, I'm afraid. Sorry TL Hopper fans. This dude is overqualified. Only losers can be WWE "superstars".
Alt account starting shit.
Serpentine
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He doesn't have more character because creative doesn't write for him or give him promo time. Not because he is a regular dude.
Tyson Kidd has tons of character and he is just a guy in trunks.
We already had big show do that. Make him wrestle in McDonald's gear, co-marketing
He also apparently gets plenty of exposure on the diva show. But I don't watch it, so all I know is he's married to Natalya and has some cat fetish. What about that will get me invested in a feud? Is there a wrestler with a dog fetish? Cat vs Dog match?
Mr. Luchador
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I'm not sure anyone is honestly suggesting we have Doinks, Big Boss Mans, Escaped Convicts, etc, but at the moment there's far too many shades of grey wrestlers where they're suppose to he Face but act like heels, and heels that don't act like heels but lose.
Most entertaining people in the WWE for me right now:
1. Rusev - Clear character
2. HHH & Stephanie McMahon - Clear characters
3. Seth Rollins - Clear Character
4. J&J Security - Clear Characters
5. Stardust - Clear Character
Most entertaining people in the WWE for me right now:
1. Rusev - Clear character
2. HHH & Stephanie McMahon - Clear characters
3. Seth Rollins - Clear Character
4. J&J Security - Clear Characters
5. Stardust - Clear Character
dr3upmushroom
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A+ commentary.