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March Wrasslin' |OT| Forecast for Wrestlemania...cloudy with a heavy chance of Reigns
- Thread starter Alucard
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do you believe that not-real women in skimpy clothes makes him a misogynist?
Apparently it also depicts or has depicted gruesome man on woman violence, and some people get off on it? I don't know, friend.
It's odd to think of a casket match as good in 2015....but I'll give it a shot. First time really watching Lucha Underground.
Kojima is getting Benoited by Konami.
This is gonna be interesting time for that company if he leaves.
This is gonna be interesting time for that company if he leaves.
Let me cut through the bullshit in this, because there's a lot. Just taking the words apart says all you need to say.
- It appears WWE is really still bitter over The Young Bucks turning down a tryout in 2014. Weve noted how WWE has applied to trademark the too sweet hand gesture, which is used by The Young Bucks and New Japan Pro Wrestlings popular Bullet Club stable.
So it "appears" - but isn't necessarily the case. And WWE is trademarking something their dudes did. Non-news.
We also noted how Mark Henry apparently took a shot at the brothers during his SmackDown segment with Roman Reigns last week as he said you young bucks havent been anywhere, talking down to Reigns.
This is a common term, especially for someone from Texas like Mark. More speculation without anything behind it.
Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer Newsletter noted on his message board that people within WWE report the line by Henry was indeed done to take a shot at The Bucks.
Does this mean anything? "Did he do it on purpose? I don't know. Maybe? It sounds like the kind of thing Vince would do. I don't know."
Back in February, WWE posted a Fury video on YouTube that was the Superkick Party edition. There was some chatter that this was also done to take a shot at the brothers and apparently that is the case. The term Superkick Party has been used by The Bucks for some time now.
Another thing that means nothing. It's gaining traction due to the Young Backs, sure - but it's now a part of pro wrestling itself. That's like saying Okada's Tombstone is a tribute to the Undertaker.
We heard a few months back that the superkick move and the word superkick was being used on WWE TV a lot more. WWE has had restrictions on the move because it was once considered to be the sacred move of Shawn Michaels. There was talk within WWE that when The Bucks turned WWE down last year, WWE decided to up the use of superkicks in matches.
Riiiiight..."there was talk within WWE" - go fuck yourselves.
End of the day this is written to get people talking, not reporting a single goddamned
I don't know about murdered - it would be smart on WWE's end to (and I sigh to myself saying this because people really, REALLY overuse it thanks to a little lardass) make Roman look strong, but not dominant. Brock is going to go into a monster babyface run after Mania and make some serious, SERIOUS merch money as the God-King Kal Lesnar.
I think you're giving this carny industry a little too much credit. The Young Bucks are a pretty huge fucking deal in professional wrestling. It makes perfect sense that the WWE would pull a concerted effort to delegitimize them.
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Depends on the context. So your answer is "no" you don't believe Kojima is a misogynist?
the only thing sillier than nxt chants are the people complaining about them.
depends on the context and what you define as misogyny (or, obviously, examples because it's entirely possible that there's information i dont know about)
lets refrain from personal attacks here, sephzilla
Nah, the stupid shit is a Full Sail thing.
The Ohio crowd was a typical indie crowd. One woman was shown on screen wearing a Bullet Club shirt.
You could still hear the crowd chants when they got hype though, and the most of out place chant was a Mr. Wrestling chant for Owens.
You said bad shit about pre-third party-Sega products. That's the worst.
If I look at all my past hobbies. Heavy Metal music, comics, anime, action movies, videogames etc. etc etc etc. I'm pretty sure every single one is misogynist in one form or another.
I guess I'm supposed to feel guilty now? It's not like I got into them specifically for that. I got into almost anything because it entertained me.
Society transforms for the better and we move along.
FlammableD
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We're bored! We all need the void to be filled.
Plus, I don't think this guilt trip on hobbies helps.
But hang on, doesn't Kojima have a ton of strong female characters in full clothing in his games as well as half naked men and even men in nothing but their underwear?
I mean, isn't the Boss one of the strongest female characters in video game history?
LoL. Well too late for me. I've poisoned the world already.
I'll admit, that was some good shit.
FallingEdge
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MGS4's entire "Beauty" photography segments. Let's just dive in there.
So since he has one strong female character (That he did sexualize heavily, btw) and there are shirtless men, this means the misogyny simply isn't there? It's not zero-sum. The way he treats women in the MGS series is despicable. Hopefully Feminist Frequency does a deep dive on MGS' treatment of women.
FallingEdge
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what a terrible post
do you believe videogames cause violence, sephzilla?
It could be terrible, but the attached username "Vince McMahon" makes it... amazing.
I watched NXT last night and was immediately compelled to watch reruns of HEE-HAW.
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What I mean is just because you CAN play as a nude male in a sequence in a game doesn't give a free pass to the disgusting photography sessions you could do in MGS4, to cherry pick one (actually what, six?) scene.
Just because you see its perceived equality (which it's nowhere NEAR that) doesn't mean it's truly equal. "But a guy grabbed a guy's dick!" doesn't make it ok.
Just because you see its perceived equality (which it's nowhere NEAR that) doesn't mean it's truly equal. "But a guy grabbed a guy's dick!" doesn't make it ok.
isnt this what professional wresting is, at its core, anyway?
PT's main villain was a house wife that was murdered by a crazy husband.
I kind of feel like you're stretching with the photo stuff in MGS4. If anything, those just felt like wastes of time more so than sexualization of a fictional character to me. It's interesting that you focus on the Beauty & the Beast Corps from MGS4 though. Those villains have a lot of issues well before sexualization ever comes into play.
I think mentally unstable people should probably not play violent videogames.
Exactly... Why couldn't it have been the opposite?
FallingEdge
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It is a video game. Who gives a shit.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm waiting around to die.
Dr Duncan Steel
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I think if the roles were reversed it would have gotten more controversy for being a big scary man-ghost beating up and chasing a helpless woman character. PT kind of turned it upside down in my opinion, turning the man in to the helpless one and turning the woman into the powerful thing you fear.
The Shapesmith
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I always liked your ROH posts Alucard and appreciated your excitement their product (Hanson love aside lol). It seems like this board has had an identity change as of late as its been fairly more positive towards alternative products and less snarky towards people. This board is great for me as I get a lot of thoughts and gifs on the Japanese scene, recommendations on UK indies like PROGRESS and recommendations on Lucha and smaller US indy companies. In conclusion, wrestling YAY!
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About misogyny? Video games have been driving away women from this industry making it a haven for cishet males that simply treats women unfairly. It bleeds into "real life" beyond just treating women poorly in games. We need equal representation in everything and I feel very strongly about that, regardless of what I like on the inside (I love looking at boobs. I could do it forever.) - but I realize that's a problem.
There was Rumble Roses XX.
Dr Duncan Steel
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I blame Daniel Bryan.
This shoot would typically work over a jabroni ass mark, if you worked it on Gaming side brother, but you shot the shoot at OT Community. The HULKAMANIACS will sandbag this work like the shoot it isn't. GOODNIGHT