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March Wrasslin' |OT| Forecast for Wrestlemania...cloudy with a heavy chance of Reigns
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JPeeples83
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Ultimate X was pretty fun. The comedy worked well and no one took stupid risks. Great hype throughout every segment for the World title match. Joe-Aries wasn't much, but I liked Spud's title win. The Magnus-Bram brawl was a thing. Didn't really do much for me. The KOs 3-way was fantastic. Kong can't do much, but this was about as good a match as you're going to get with her.
Storm and Matt had a really stupid garbage match. It started with basic stuff and then they did a superplex chair bridge spot and a tack bump. Both meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and Matt shouldn't be taking stupid bumps at this stage in his career. Storm took the tacks and they got nothing out of it. It was a kickout and not even a dramatic one. Just such a stupid match given what TNA is and what the talent is really getting out of it money-wise.
Lashley-Angle was amazing. They gave it the biggest-match intro to date in the DA era. They started with logical wrestling stuff that worked to each man's strengths, and built to things like Germans. Loved the 2.9999 count off the spear. The hype for this match had it pegged as a great match and it was a step above that. The big intros helped and each man busted out new things here. Kurt did a crossbody, while Lashley went for a frog splash. The finish was great too - they built to each ankle lock, and then finally the grapevined ankle lock was once again the last bullet in the gun he needed to win. This was a great main event that was worth going out of your way to see - I'm glad I recorded it so I'll have an HD copy forever because if it was Kurt's last World title win, he did his damndest to make it a classic.
http://jayreviewsthings.blogspot.com/2015/03/tna-impact-wrestling-3-20-15.html
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Storm and Matt had a really stupid garbage match. It started with basic stuff and then they did a superplex chair bridge spot and a tack bump. Both meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and Matt shouldn't be taking stupid bumps at this stage in his career. Storm took the tacks and they got nothing out of it. It was a kickout and not even a dramatic one. Just such a stupid match given what TNA is and what the talent is really getting out of it money-wise.
Lashley-Angle was amazing. They gave it the biggest-match intro to date in the DA era. They started with logical wrestling stuff that worked to each man's strengths, and built to things like Germans. Loved the 2.9999 count off the spear. The hype for this match had it pegged as a great match and it was a step above that. The big intros helped and each man busted out new things here. Kurt did a crossbody, while Lashley went for a frog splash. The finish was great too - they built to each ankle lock, and then finally the grapevined ankle lock was once again the last bullet in the gun he needed to win. This was a great main event that was worth going out of your way to see - I'm glad I recorded it so I'll have an HD copy forever because if it was Kurt's last World title win, he did his damndest to make it a classic.
http://jayreviewsthings.blogspot.com/2015/03/tna-impact-wrestling-3-20-15.html
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FRIDAY, MARCH 27TH, 2015
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Deleted member 47027
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http://femmezuigiri.tumblr.com had a lot of words about #givedivasachance and it's worth reading.
What do you think? Is this the start of something better? Or is it just to keep people occupied for now and then will be given up on?
Womens wrestling is moving up from what is seen as the mid card bathroom break
Monday Night RAW starts and its my weekly internal debate of Do I sit through three hours of poorly booked wrestling or do I follow my twitter feed and live off the recaps from my followers? I decided to give it a shot to see if Vince was actually going to follow through with his vague promises.
#GiveDivasAChance started trending on twitter 2 weeks ago and it still shows no sign of going away. The WWE tries really hard to be on the ball in terms of staying current, so every week Michael Cole will address anything related to the promotion that is trending on twitter. It popped up during RAW as a result to the Divas match clocking in at less than a minute; thats right, we have male Superstars who have longer entrance sequences on the show than the women were allotted to fight a complete match. Despite all this, the announcers stayed mum. Fast forward to the next day and we see good ol Mr. McMahon tweeting the following:
Does Vince hear us? Is he actually going to take a chance to let us influence the narrative of his product or are we going to see a small glimmer of hope and just slide back into the way its been. Their current motto is WWE: Then. Now. Forever.; if that doesnt show a resistance to change, I dont know what does. Take a skip ahead to last Monday, Michael Cole was given the go ahead to address the hashtag which was trending yet again. He addressed it on air by mentioning that it was trending, but nothing further than that. It seemed your typical RAW with drawn out matches and in ring babbling and added in celebrity appearance since Wrestlemania is just around the corner. This weeks celebrity was Wiz Khalifa who got EIGHT minutes of airtime. The Divas got five minutes total. A five minute match isnt that atrocious, its at least four minutes more than they got the week prior except this was combined between two matches.
Vince McMahon heard our cry, we kept watching and he Gave the Divas A Chance by letting the women have more than one match one the show but they needed to combine both matches to be shorter than an adequate mens match. To put some icing on this bittersweet cake, partway through the second match featuring Naomi and Natalya, their husbands (Tyson Kidd & Jimmy Uso) started brawling at ringside and the cameras followed the men. What youre telling us, Vince, is you hear us but you dont care.
Who knows if this is a tipping point for WWE in how they treat women, but we need to remember that the buck doesnt stop with them and they arent the end all be all of wrestling. This problem has trickled down to indie level promotions as well. Unless a promotion is all women, such as SHIMMER, League of Lady Wrestlers and Valkyrie, or its a womens event as an exception, its extremely commonplace for there to be one womens match on a card if any are included at all. Bonus points if your sole womens match is intergender! There are more than enough talented wrestlers who arent cis men that can be booked on your show; whats the harm in mixing things up?
Womens wrestling is moving up from what is seen as the mid card bathroom break and I will continue to bitch and moan until people like Vince are sick of hearing me and actually make an effort to change. Lets see if this trend continues and whether or not its a genuine effort, or if theyre just pandering to keep us quiet.
What do you think? Is this the start of something better? Or is it just to keep people occupied for now and then will be given up on?
Using Marvel Unlimited and I can't stop thinking how much better the Network's archive content would be if it was organized HALF as effectively as this.
I was also going to leave a big ass long-form post here dissecting Reigns' character since the Shield broke up and how I can only find one tiny little window where he was presented as a legitimately sympathetic and relatable character (pre-injury, when he was out for revenge for Dean) and wanting to be sold on why I should be cheering for him at WMPlay even after doing as HHH said on the Stone Cold podcast and "letting the story play out." But in the process of doing so, I sold myself on signing back up for the Network just to see Brock take him down a peg.
I mean "two big, badass dudes are poised to smash each other to bits" is far from the best possible story they could be telling here and the stakes haven't really been made personal AT ALL or really like something that feels Wrestlemania-tier, but Wrestlemania is just $10 now and comes with bonus NXT episodes. So I'm back in, because I get to eat junk food and cheer for a super mutant freak of a man to stomp the hell out of a guy I don't like. So fuck it, I'll be a good little mark. Put me down for THE BEAST.
I paid full price for Wrestlemania 27. As my first one. This won't even be in the same ballpark of awfulness even if they are being tone-deaf and stupid.
I think they just mined this one for a new catchphrase to play with for a bit and that's it.
I was also going to leave a big ass long-form post here dissecting Reigns' character since the Shield broke up and how I can only find one tiny little window where he was presented as a legitimately sympathetic and relatable character (pre-injury, when he was out for revenge for Dean) and wanting to be sold on why I should be cheering for him at WMPlay even after doing as HHH said on the Stone Cold podcast and "letting the story play out." But in the process of doing so, I sold myself on signing back up for the Network just to see Brock take him down a peg.
I mean "two big, badass dudes are poised to smash each other to bits" is far from the best possible story they could be telling here and the stakes haven't really been made personal AT ALL or really like something that feels Wrestlemania-tier, but Wrestlemania is just $10 now and comes with bonus NXT episodes. So I'm back in, because I get to eat junk food and cheer for a super mutant freak of a man to stomp the hell out of a guy I don't like. So fuck it, I'll be a good little mark. Put me down for THE BEAST.
I paid full price for Wrestlemania 27. As my first one. This won't even be in the same ballpark of awfulness even if they are being tone-deaf and stupid.
I think they just mined this one for a new catchphrase to play with for a bit and that's it.
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Total divas is the priority, as long as it exist I don't think the women will get better. A good portion of the women need to be in NXT getting some training. It's not a time issue Its a talent issue, If they were smart they would have Charlotte and nattie tare down the house at summerslam.
Overall I think the decision needs a complete reboot, no graduale change will work.
Did they mute the Nikki Bella chants is what you're saying
I like you krae_man, you have your priorities in order.
The main event of Wrestlemania is an absolute must watch match. It might be the most important match of this decade.
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Divas aren't the only problem.
Tag division is shit
US and IC titles are worthless
95% of roster are just there as filler.
Whole company is a big mess
Tag division is shit
US and IC titles are worthless
95% of roster are just there as filler.
Whole company is a big mess
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Deleted member 47027
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Will Nikki Bella chants go back to being muted, or are they slowly allowing the cheers?
If the WWE really wants to put the divas over what they need to do is build to another match with one of them vs. Steph and have Steph lose that decisively instead of the shenanigans that happened last time. I think AJ is the best pick because that's been something teased and clamored for since before there was a capital A in the Authority, but she's really not the only choice.
But as it stands now, Steph is the only one given notable screen time outside of Total Divas and the only one who is consistently presented as a strong, capable person to be taken seriously.
It really doesn't feel like it at all right now, but in the long-term you could easily be right.
But as it stands now, Steph is the only one given notable screen time outside of Total Divas and the only one who is consistently presented as a strong, capable person to be taken seriously.
It really doesn't feel like it at all right now, but in the long-term you could easily be right.
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He's SO young! Pretty nuts. I need to watch it sometime.
Currently watching Bull Nakano vs Aja Kong cage match in late 1990 at Stro's urging. It's a hard hitting mother fucking cage match with purpose. Godddddddamnnnnnn.
His review and gifs are found at:
http://www.legitshook.com/strobogos-wrasslin-potpourri-reviews/
Nothing will change and it's going to be super depressing.
the sound acoustics sounded a little shaky, i don't think that's a coincidence
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I'm kind of undecided. It's good business to cater to the other HALF of people you've been ignoring and we've seen a bunch of things in games and comics finally start stepping the fuck up. Could WWE be next? I think there's a good chance.
Professor Beef
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For what it's worth, they've done a good job at dragging Vince to modern times, although that's not saying much. If they can keep dragging him to the present and not let him crawl back to the past and avoid the fans, then things can look up.
Yeah, don't link it or anything that would only make sense.
They're gonna have to be okay with having a dead or antagonistic crowd during longer diva segments for a while. if Erick Rowan or New Day can get the benefit of the doubt there, it shouldn't be a problem.
But will and should are different things, I guess.
Dunedain_Ranger
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Can't wait to be at raw this week yes !!!
Professor Beef
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The video is FnP at it's finest. Why don't you like it?
Carnby
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But it's not fnp. He really thinks he preaching the gospel, while sipping on a Heine, with his no arms poking out of a sleeveless Motörhead shirt.
Also, I don't like the choice of casting strippers.
dr3upmushroom
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Bay Area getting hit with quite a bit of wrassling this month.
notworksafe
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Finishing up the Raw before WM30 and damn I totally forgot about the Shield vs New Age Outlaws and Kane match at AM
Also they keep hyping up the Battle Royale. Too bad they forgot about it less than a month later
Also they keep hyping up the Battle Royale. Too bad they forgot about it less than a month later
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Yeah but it was actually pretty fun at the time.
notworksafe
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JOHN CENA'S LEGACY IS ON THE LINE
I also forgot about AJ vs every Diva too. This was only a year ago damn
I also forgot about AJ vs every Diva too. This was only a year ago damn
serenewarfare
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If any of you own an XB1, you need to play Ori and the Blind Forest. I wasn't expecting much going in, and it absolutely blew me away. Highly recommended.
British Monsoon
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Oh man, Perro Aguayo Jr. died after an accident in the ring with Rey tonight 
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/infor...-aguayo?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
RIP
Sounds like he was trying to avoid a 619 from Mysterio, but caught it in the face and was knocked out. I don't think anyone realised it was so serious at first, goddamn. This is terrible, can't imagine how Rey must be feeling.
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/infor...-aguayo?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
RIP
Sounds like he was trying to avoid a 619 from Mysterio, but caught it in the face and was knocked out. I don't think anyone realised it was so serious at first, goddamn. This is terrible, can't imagine how Rey must be feeling.
Professor Beef
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Oh man, Perro Aguayo Jr. died after an accident in the ring with Rey tonight
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/infor...-aguayo?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
RIP
Sounds like he was trying to avoid a 619 from Mysterio, but caught it in the face and was knocked out. I don't think anyone realised it was so serious at first, goddamn. This is terrible, can't imagine how Rey must be feeling.
holy shit
British Monsoon
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This is so fucked up. I was just watching him vs. Rey & Sin Cara at the weekend, now he's gone
Nothing is going to change with Vince there. The women are just eye candy. Everything else is irrelevant.
wXw is actually trying again to build up their women's division after hitting some bumps on the road.
British Monsoon
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"Rey did a double dropkick on Aguayo and Manik to set up a double 619. Aguayo hit the ropes wrong and was knocked out and never woke up. Either brain hemmorage or cervical spine trauma it seems."
Damn, this is so awful. Condolences to everyone involved.
Damn, this is so awful. Condolences to everyone involved.
Fernando Fernandez
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I bet femmezuigiri (if that is their real name) watches Raw each week regardless.
Christ. What a freak accident, so sad.
Christ. What a freak accident, so sad.
I'm not really sure how that has any bearing on anything raised in that blog. Maybe they enjoy the rest of the show but want something to change. Maybe it's something that's building up and if nothing changes, then will stop watching.
If you're not allowed to complain about watching parts of a program every week, this thread would be dead on a Monday night, even if some people to enjoy a lot of parts of the show.
Fernando Fernandez
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If it's that bad just stop watching, no one is forcing you to sit through 3 hours.
Those Undisputed movies are fucking bullshit. I kept having people tell me, 'Oh watch those if you like Martial Arts movies.' And I finally watch them and they're crappy fakey fake looking bullshit.
They're like the indie wrestlers version of Bruce Lee, Donnie Yen, Sammo Hung, and Jackie Chan movies.
They're like the indie wrestlers version of Bruce Lee, Donnie Yen, Sammo Hung, and Jackie Chan movies.
So the points raised in the post would be fine without that line, or am I missing something? Should the women of the biggest wrestling promotion in the world get a chance regardless of people watching, or not?
If we got matches the calibre of what we've seen out of the women on NXT, including from one currently on the roster who was against someone who's been busted down to NXT, why wouldn't that be seen as a win? I haven't watched Raw since before Fastlane, so does my opinion hold more weight?
reptilescorpio
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Undisputed 2/3 were great fun, especially 3.
FUCKOh man, Perro Aguayo Jr. died after an accident in the ring with Rey tonight
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/infor...-aguayo?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
RIP
Sounds like he was trying to avoid a 619 from Mysterio, but caught it in the face and was knocked out. I don't think anyone realised it was so serious at first, goddamn. This is terrible, can't imagine how Rey must be feeling.