Nocturnowl
Member
Absolutely valid point, guess I'm just picking up on too much of it as of late, you'll have to forgive me.
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March Wrasslin' |OT| The March to Wrestlemania XXXIII!
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Absolutely valid point, guess I'm just picking up on too much of it as of late, you'll have to forgive me.
I think some of you definitely overstate the age issue. It's a different time where guys in their mid-late 30's are still in absolutely amazing shape and are still produce some of the best work in the ring. Sure, they will hit a point in a 2-4 years where the decline will be sudden and they're looking at retirement, but think about how long most "eras" are in WWE. The Attitude Era was only, what, 3-4 years?
Yes a lot of these dudes are pretty old, but they are who WWE view as their biggest draws for the time being.
They are building up a bunch of younger guys at the same time even if it's not exactly the center focus. But they also still fuck it up real good with guys that they should be protecting more like Kevin Owens (where they put themselves in a position where there was no choice really but for his Goldberg match to be a squash).
In an alternate reality where WWE isn't a public company run by Vince McMahon, guys like Goldberg and Brock would be facing younger stars to produce actual mega stars in the future. But that's just not the reality. Realistically we can only hope for bombastic PPVs every once in a while, and the occasional mildly entertaining storylines. That's just what WWE is.
Yes a lot of these dudes are pretty old, but they are who WWE view as their biggest draws for the time being.
They are building up a bunch of younger guys at the same time even if it's not exactly the center focus. But they also still fuck it up real good with guys that they should be protecting more like Kevin Owens (where they put themselves in a position where there was no choice really but for his Goldberg match to be a squash).
In an alternate reality where WWE isn't a public company run by Vince McMahon, guys like Goldberg and Brock would be facing younger stars to produce actual mega stars in the future. But that's just not the reality. Realistically we can only hope for bombastic PPVs every once in a while, and the occasional mildly entertaining storylines. That's just what WWE is.
SallyIsNow
Banned
I could've been the 17yo champ! But now I'll have to settle for 18.
Hahaha. Well done, klonere, you goose.
A lot can change in 5 years. I wouldn't worry too much about getting new talent.
Fucking them up is a totally another story.
edit: Big Show knees are done.
excelsiorlef
Member
Exactly... though I'd say early 30s too. Austin was 33 in 97. Hogan 31 in 84.
Bret was 35 in 92
HBK 31 in 96
DDP was 43 in 99
Flair was 32 in 81
Savage 36 in 88
And we can go on.
I'll 100 percent agree with that. Pretty fucking stupid keeping guys like Nak, Roode, Finn there for so long, just adding extra miles onto their bodies when they could have be drawing on their main shows for them. Haitch got WAY too invested in making NXT a super show, and putting the development territory aspect in the distant back seat.
That is actually kind of crazy.
Nocturnowl
Member
Vince going to send Reigns into hibernation for a few years in the future so he can break another record.
Lol.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
That New Japan show was the best wrestling show that will happen this week, at least. That main event <3
Disagree Guy
Member
If this Goldberg wins I'll be more shocked than when Taker lost....
Tom Nook
Member
Who going to break that record?
Vince McMahon would break that record.
6,377 days
September 20, 1999 - March 6, 2017
Goldberg and Brock are just going to have an in-ring sex celebration.
THIS-IS-AWE-SOME. CLAP CLAP CLAP-CLAP-CLAP
SallyIsNow
Banned
Mania spoilerzSome jabronie said:
Disagree Guy
Member
22 seconds long
He sold pretty well when he tried to lift his fat ass kid onto his shoulder. Sandbagging little jerk.
That random jobber really put him over.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Goldberg wins at Mania, gets speared by Reigns on Raw
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
No, he's Goldberg. Goldberg is only effective as a squash match. Apparently he had a good match with DDP once. I really need to get around to watching that. This is what Goldberg does. He squashes people, or he gets cheated out of his win rarely.
Disagree Guy
Member
SallyIsNow
Banned
How can you not believe in The Big Dog now! This is his yard after all.
Nocturnowl
Member
Not before Zayn!
Pins Taker clean at Mania.
Spears Goldberg and knocks him out cold on RAW.
I can see it.
There is a place for Zayn, and it isn't in the WWE.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
I figured all along it was going to be Goldberg v Lesnar v Reigns at Mania. Would not be surprised if what you described happens.
excelsiorlef
Member
He also randomly had a great match with Scott Steiner
DDP vs Goldberg is an incredible match though.
Dick Justice
Banned
Sweeney Tom
Banned
ARMBAR almost certainly
Nocturnowl
Member
If they actually went full heel for Reigns vs Taker I'd be all for this, squashes champberg on the raw after mania for the title.
This could unfortunately apply to a lot of the roster.
Best fantasy booking I've seen in a while, and what a scoop for Raw, they gain an extra that's also a cruiserweight.
I can see him in the ladder match and hitting that splash off the ladder onto another guy on a ladder.
I do hope they have an actual Mania plan for Braun.
If the whole idea was to just feed him to Reigns at Fastlane to MAKE ROMAN LOOK STRONGT before Mania...christ.
Braun losing like that was probably the thing that pissed me off most about Fastlane. Just pinning your monster on a B-PPV. OK then.
SallyIsNow
Banned
vs Joe in a Hoss Showdown
I'm probably going to skip it just like I skipped last year, unless they do a great job of winning me over on Raw.
The only match I would have cared about was Jericho/Owens but I'm not going to care if it's not treated as important (for a midcard belt) or if the reasons for feuding aren't there. (Owens betrayed Jericho because of something HHH said. It wasn't "I'll make sure you retain your title" which is the only thing that would make sense). They don't care about that match so we'd be stupid to care.
What else is there? Nothing.
Disagree Guy
Member
Knowing WWE as I do, they'll likely just ignore it ever happened and keep Braun stomping the shit out of people.
They normally only ever 'stick' to shit once they've made a massive deal about it before hand.
A full on heel Reigns would solve most of my complaints about him.
Yeah this seems likely.
That would be too good for WWE.
Tom Nook
Member
Part-timer
kind of like how everyoen was fine to rip on big show being fat for years then when its kevin owens we suddenly have mods stepping in and threatening to shut down the thread
Dick Justice
Banned
50 years old, more over than the main roster, better mic skills than almost anyone else on the roster, does more to protect his spot and This Business™.