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British Monsoon
Member
It's not as if you seemed like a huge fan of him in the first place. Ishii's pretty awesome in his role but personally, I prefer Honma.
You might be thinking of Stro. I've never had anything bad to say about Ishii, but it's 2015 and I'm over the 'I am tough guy underdog' and that's his entire gimmick.
British Monsoon
Member
Perhaps I am thinking of stro, where is he anyways? Shouldn't his ban be up by now?
I think Ishii works for the same reason Shibata does; their style stands out in modern New Japan. I don't honestly see Ishii going much further than this NEVER title reign, though. He's almost 40 and as much as I do enjoy his matches, they're all fairly similar.
I think Ishii works for the same reason Shibata does; their style stands out in modern New Japan. I don't honestly see Ishii going much further than this NEVER title reign, though. He's almost 40 and as much as I do enjoy his matches, they're all fairly similar.
British Monsoon
Member
Yeah, I'm very happy to see Honma get his due, even if it is largely off the back of a comedy move - for years Honma & Ishii were the secret best wrestlers on New Japan's undercard and it's great to see them get some recognition and success.
I think the only other outcome I would have accepted last night is a bloody God King Brock standing tall after stopping Reigns comeback.
I liked Reigns last night, and he looked as close to the guy as he ever did, but he's still not there.
A feud with Rollins over the belt will do him good though. Just don't put it on him yet. Hes' far from ready.
I liked Reigns last night, and he looked as close to the guy as he ever did, but he's still not there.
A feud with Rollins over the belt will do him good though. Just don't put it on him yet. Hes' far from ready.
Perspicacity
Banned
Why would Brock ever agree to such an obvious cartoony ruse? It's like asking why Seth never just left a pile of Brock seed sitting around in the back then curb stomped Lesnar when he bent down to eat it
British Monsoon
Member
Okada's doing voice work from some animu named World Trigger;
plagiarize
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I think he has a chance in an extended feud with Rollins to start getting widely cheered again. Seth is the top heel in the company right now by far. Plus, Seth can make him look really good as they continue to develop Roman because Seth and Roman almost certainly have great chemistry, and Seth can no doubt make Roman look good.
I do believe a lot of the boos Roman picked up at the Rumble and on have been more to do with Daniel Bryan than Roman himself, and because people thought he was anointed to win. So without the win, and with a feud with someone who will work really well with him (consider how fun he was feuding with Bryan) I think he's not too far off... and I think that feud will work nicely.
If Dean isn't crippled, you can even throw him into the mix.
Okada's doing voice work from some animu named World Trigger;
I like to imagine he did all his voice work in his wrestling outfit.
FlammableD
Banned
I remember there was a news story that he's playing himself in an animu, I assume that was this one
Oldest_Ancient
Member
I have the same issue with fatal 4 way tag matches, they say right the way through that you can tag anybody in, what would stop Tyson and Cesaro both making sure they're tagged in for a pin or quick tap out.
Although that would have worked for breaking up Miz and Mizdow.
Uno Venova
Banned
Maybe them trying to build up the midcard titles with Cena and Daniel can give the most over guys last night, Dean, Zig, and Barret something to do instead of being in a crowded clusterfuck, and geriatrics and part timers who can't go can finally stop getting so much time.
Maybe them trying to build up the midcard titles with Cena and Daniel can give the most over guys last night, Dean, Zig, and Barret something to do instead of being in a crowded clusterfuck, and geriatrics and part timers who can't go can finally stop getting so much time.
They've had so many "end of an era" moments in the past few years. Rock passing the torch to Cena, Taker's streak ending, Taker vs Triple H Hell In a Cell, this....
I'm ready for a Mania without Rock, Hogan, Triple H and all the names of the past.
"Omgomgmg I'm so close to Roman Reigns need to record this is so cool... wait uh I mean FUCK YOU PERSON WITH BAD WORKRATE. Yeah. Totally showed him we mean business at r/squaredcircle "later on in the entrance, the fans fight back and security scrambles to do their job
DATA WEST'S MATCHES OF 2015 as of 3/30/2015
This is based entirely on what I watch, so if something from the WWE or Lucha Underground isn't on there, it's because I don't watch it. I don't know if it's good or shit as I just haven't seen it. Some matches I like more than others, but I think all are worth a watch.
I predict the following will have a blowout 2015: Go Shiozaki, Kota Ibushi(IF he forsakes DDT for NJPW. If not, he'll be in the Naito/Shibata spot), Tetsuya Naito(I'll keep predicting it until it happens), AJ Styles(again), Kenou, Takeshi Morishima, Deisuke Sekimoto(again), Kairi Hojo, Yusaku Obata,Seiki Yoshioka, Daisuke Harada, Kento Miyahara(he's ready, bros), Zack Sabre Jr, Hikaru Shida, Ryoji Sai, Kohei Sato, Jason Lee(if they don't continue fucking him up), Kotaro Suzuki, Evolution(Doering & Suwama) - They have everything to be the next big tag team in Japan, Shinjiro Otani - Old man Otani had a killer year in 2014. He's one of my favorites to watch right now and the fact that he looks way older than he is just makes him prime for Tenryu's grumpy old man spot.
The following will have a downfall in some way:
Atsushi Aoki - Despite the fact that he's outperforming just about everyone, he's a character that I don't think will work as well without the title. While Suzuki/Aoki is the best rivalry going right now for me, there's slim pickings for Atsushi after this feud even though he can work with both juniors and heavyweights. While Kotaro will do well due to his younger fanbase, I worry about Aoki being lost in the shuffle.
Naomichi Marufuji - While I do think the Suzuki-gun storyline is yet ANOTHER attempt to get Marufuji over despite his constant lackluster years (a la his feud with Nagata serving only to try to get Marufuji over), I think people will be sick of it. I think people are getting sick of him being the focus of NOAH and not having any star power as an Ace like Tanahashi or Okada or even Shiozaki. Suzuki is just a cooler character, and the younger guys in NOAH are just more likeable. Hopefully this will humble Marufuji and he'll work the midcard for a while and some other guys can challenge Suzuki. Despite that..
Minoru Suzuki - Yep. This is a surprising one, but I'm looking at the future here, and it doesn't look too bright. The only money feuds I see with Suzuki coming up are Takayama and Morishima. Takayama likely won't stick around for longer than a month, and Morishima has to be motivated. Beyond that, Suzuki is working with the heavyweights of NOAH. The heavyweights of NOAH are equivalent to the junior heavyweights of NJPW. Most of them aren't really over or are lazy because they don't draw as well as they used to. Suzuki will suffer being stuck in NOAH without any real competition. The only third option I see is Suguira, and I don't see him going far if he's having trouble with Suzuki's chronies.
Ryusuke Taguchi - This fuck gets less of a reaction every time I watch NJPW. He's so fucking lame that I don't know who is even cheering for him anymore. Kids are cheering for AJ, Naito, Ibushi, Tanahashi, and Okada. They don't cheer for Taguchi. Adults are cheering for AJ, Nakamura, Okada, and Shibata. Who is left for this useless fuck who can't work a good match to save his life? The only reason people put up with him is because of how dire the junior division is.
Katsuyori Shibata - I hate to say it because I love him, but if NJPW keeps sitting on him in favor of AJ or Okada or Tanahashi, he's fucked. No matter how well he performs, he's stuck in purgatory and while I don't predict him to fall as far as the others in this list might... He could end up in Goto territory of never being a main eventer despite the fact that he's basically groomed for it.
Who will be in NXT by the end of the year: Zack Sabre Jr and Hikaru Shida
fuck that took forever
This is based entirely on what I watch, so if something from the WWE or Lucha Underground isn't on there, it's because I don't watch it. I don't know if it's good or shit as I just haven't seen it. Some matches I like more than others, but I think all are worth a watch.
I predict the following will have a blowout 2015: Go Shiozaki, Kota Ibushi(IF he forsakes DDT for NJPW. If not, he'll be in the Naito/Shibata spot), Tetsuya Naito(I'll keep predicting it until it happens), AJ Styles(again), Kenou, Takeshi Morishima, Deisuke Sekimoto(again), Kairi Hojo, Yusaku Obata,Seiki Yoshioka, Daisuke Harada, Kento Miyahara(he's ready, bros), Zack Sabre Jr, Hikaru Shida, Ryoji Sai, Kohei Sato, Jason Lee(if they don't continue fucking him up), Kotaro Suzuki, Evolution(Doering & Suwama) - They have everything to be the next big tag team in Japan, Shinjiro Otani - Old man Otani had a killer year in 2014. He's one of my favorites to watch right now and the fact that he looks way older than he is just makes him prime for Tenryu's grumpy old man spot.
The following will have a downfall in some way:
Atsushi Aoki - Despite the fact that he's outperforming just about everyone, he's a character that I don't think will work as well without the title. While Suzuki/Aoki is the best rivalry going right now for me, there's slim pickings for Atsushi after this feud even though he can work with both juniors and heavyweights. While Kotaro will do well due to his younger fanbase, I worry about Aoki being lost in the shuffle.
Naomichi Marufuji - While I do think the Suzuki-gun storyline is yet ANOTHER attempt to get Marufuji over despite his constant lackluster years (a la his feud with Nagata serving only to try to get Marufuji over), I think people will be sick of it. I think people are getting sick of him being the focus of NOAH and not having any star power as an Ace like Tanahashi or Okada or even Shiozaki. Suzuki is just a cooler character, and the younger guys in NOAH are just more likeable. Hopefully this will humble Marufuji and he'll work the midcard for a while and some other guys can challenge Suzuki. Despite that..
Minoru Suzuki - Yep. This is a surprising one, but I'm looking at the future here, and it doesn't look too bright. The only money feuds I see with Suzuki coming up are Takayama and Morishima. Takayama likely won't stick around for longer than a month, and Morishima has to be motivated. Beyond that, Suzuki is working with the heavyweights of NOAH. The heavyweights of NOAH are equivalent to the junior heavyweights of NJPW. Most of them aren't really over or are lazy because they don't draw as well as they used to. Suzuki will suffer being stuck in NOAH without any real competition. The only third option I see is Suguira, and I don't see him going far if he's having trouble with Suzuki's chronies.
Ryusuke Taguchi - This fuck gets less of a reaction every time I watch NJPW. He's so fucking lame that I don't know who is even cheering for him anymore. Kids are cheering for AJ, Naito, Ibushi, Tanahashi, and Okada. They don't cheer for Taguchi. Adults are cheering for AJ, Nakamura, Okada, and Shibata. Who is left for this useless fuck who can't work a good match to save his life? The only reason people put up with him is because of how dire the junior division is.
Katsuyori Shibata - I hate to say it because I love him, but if NJPW keeps sitting on him in favor of AJ or Okada or Tanahashi, he's fucked. No matter how well he performs, he's stuck in purgatory and while I don't predict him to fall as far as the others in this list might... He could end up in Goto territory of never being a main eventer despite the fact that he's basically groomed for it.
Who will be in NXT by the end of the year: Zack Sabre Jr and Hikaru Shida
fuck that took forever
FlammableD
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This week in shitty indy posters:
FlammableD
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In good indy news, Progresslemania from last weekend is live now at www.demand-progress.com, get on it.
Scott Hall looking better than Sting, wow
This is literally, virtually, indefinitely and absolutely the best thing that could happen. You should all be smarking out.
Dick Justice
Banned
So Ronda Rousey grabbed Steph's arm for a bit. Gee, she sure got her comeuppance.
Those MMA holds are for realz, didn't you know that? An armbar is serious business.
I'm straight shootin' here.
"You know MMA is fake right?"
Perspicacity
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BronsonLee
Member
Steph is not a worker and Rousey has never worked a move in her life
Perspicacity
Banned
You got it bae
Perspicacity
Banned
I think the world was ready for a champion who has shown us his penis
Dick Justice
Banned
She didn't seem to have a problem wrestling as Summerslam last year. And Rousey can't at least throw a worked punch or something? Christ, anything.
Also that fatal 4 way tag match was legit, should've been on the main show.
Ronda is a straight shooter, you don't want her throwing punches at you, worked or not
lol
Future Foundation
Member
Didn't she throw Triple H?
I feel like Steph and Ronda could have practiced a safe little hip toss like the one HHH took. It's definitely past the point of annoyance with Steph not getting her just deserts.
Seth is Kliq'd up, he has immunity breh.
Seth is Kliq'd up, he has immunity breh.
Dick Justice
Banned
I meant to Steph. Haitch sold that shit like Flair lol.
#RealityEra
Future Foundation
Member
Yeah, I think a hip toss would've been good.
That sell was perfect. Are there no gifs yet?
Dick Justice
Banned
And how in the utter fuck do you not have Mizdow win the battle royale? Jesus, I guess Big Show really needed the win.