Cena will always be the most important person in his feuds everything else is background noise.
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March Wrasslin' |OT2| The Road To Raw After Wrestlemania XXX has begun....
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bean breath
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Final Fantasy is for girl gamers, bro. I play Battlefield.
blackaroni
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BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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I bet she was squawking during this.
lovely ladies
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Sega Sports has beef with the Rock?!? That's classified info!
bean breath
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lol maybe this post is sarcastic but whenever i've listened to stone colds podcast and some guy like that has called in he is like "Are you gonna stop watching" and dude is like "uhhhh Yeah... BUT only for a bit longer" and you can feel austin thinking "yeah you jackass give them your money"
bean breath
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Not a lot of people are posting after Raw, there's like 5 of my posts stacked up in a row. I should have skipped this Raw just like Goat Face.
Professor Beef
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You sure you're not watching Impact?
bean breath
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Your avatar is giving me a boner.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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bean breath
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It's not the same. There are so many names that posted in the last 3 hours that I have never seen here before. Can't compete with that.
Ethan Carter III is taking classes to become a fire fighter. Nothing spells doom for a company like one of their top talents acquiring an employable job skill to fall back on.
PHOENIXZERO
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2014 and they're still doing the Undertaker "magically" appears in the casket gimmick...
Professor Beef
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Serpentine
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fuck, RAW was so boring. just dull as hell. Brooklyn crowd wasn't even that great outside of the Wyatt Family stuff.
At least Impact is 2 hours.
At least Impact is 2 hours.
JOE MANGANOLI
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If Percy was still alive we'd have another good heel wrassler in WWE in Shaun Ricker
Mr. Luchador
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It's the constant ad breaks that kills RAW for me. I'm fine if I watch it recorded on Sky+ and can just fast forward the breaks, but watching it live. Man.
"AND WE'RE BACK, this is what you missed during the break..!"
-2 minutes of action. Wrestler thrown out of the ring.-
"Can 'wrestler' regain control of the match? We'll find out after this break!"
Another 10 minute break.
"AND WE'RE BACK, this is what you missed during the break..!"
-2 minutes of action. Wrestler thrown out of the ring.-
"Can 'wrestler' regain control of the match? We'll find out after this break!"
Another 10 minute break.
British Monsoon
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"Former ECW World champion Masato Tanaka will face EVOLVE champion Chris Hero on Friday 4/4 in New Orleans at the Dragon Gate USA iPPV."
OK, that's an awesome match - still no actual Dragon Gate guys on the DGUSA shows, though. It's crazy to me that they've announced so little for what's only a couple of weeks away.
OK, that's an awesome match - still no actual Dragon Gate guys on the DGUSA shows, though. It's crazy to me that they've announced so little for what's only a couple of weeks away.
Serpentine
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I'm uninterested in getting a DGUSA iPPV but i am very interested in seeing Hero/Tanaka
Soleil rouge
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I know I'm mad late but, trust me on this, your girl does not want to sit alone. She's secretly hoping that you man up and sell your tickets so that you can sit with her.
Jesus, it's bad enough that you're taking her to an indie wrasslin show, but then you actually consider letting her sit around a bunch of dudes who will be trying to get at her all night, while you're in the front row going crazy over men wearing underwear.
Mr. Luchador
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She probably likes Wrestling because you do, and only wants to go to the show because you're going. Girls be crazy like that.
JesseEwiak
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Um, yeah. I mean, do you like sex with your girlfriend? Because dropping her off in the pits of the ROH Horde would be a good way to not get sex with your girlfriend.
I hear the experience live at the show is similar. That's what I'm worried about when I go to Raw After Mania, just a lot of downtime inbetween what happens in the ring.
Officerrob
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Just got caught-up on Raw, not a good show. Without Bryan there, any segment that didn't include the Shield or Wyatts was either garbage, dull, or average at best.
First segment was garbage. Steph is doing the best work of her career, but Orton and Batista are worthless right now.
All four guys in the IC title #1 contenders match worked hard, but the most over guy in the match was pinned. Nobody wants to see Big E vs Christian
Sin Cara vs Damien Sandow: Garbage
Los Matadores vs Rybaxel: Dog shit
Hogan, Arnold, Miz, and other guy segment: Putrid
Show vs Titus: Whatever (Look at the last four segments, that is just cruel to your audience)
John Cena vs Luke Harper: Cena looked real bad here. Harper worked hard and I liked the odd ending. Too bad the Cena seeing the sheep mask in the mirror crap before the match happened, because that was some WCW awful
Naomi vs AJ: ZZZZzzzzz. This leads to a clusterfuck Diva's match at Wrestlemania that includes the likes of Eva Marie and Rosa Mendez? Fuck that
Shield vs Real Americans: Fantastic. Too bad the Shield are being completely wasted at Wrestlemania. Instead of seeing these three going at each other, or having the Wyatts involved, they get to deal with the Corporate Geriatrics. That's just sad
Lesnar/Undertaker segment: Didn't like it at all. This build has been extremely disappointing. I'm tired of Takers extremely long druid segments that leads to hearing that chanting forever while NOTHING happens
First segment was garbage. Steph is doing the best work of her career, but Orton and Batista are worthless right now.
All four guys in the IC title #1 contenders match worked hard, but the most over guy in the match was pinned. Nobody wants to see Big E vs Christian
Sin Cara vs Damien Sandow: Garbage
Los Matadores vs Rybaxel: Dog shit
Hogan, Arnold, Miz, and other guy segment: Putrid
Show vs Titus: Whatever (Look at the last four segments, that is just cruel to your audience)
John Cena vs Luke Harper: Cena looked real bad here. Harper worked hard and I liked the odd ending. Too bad the Cena seeing the sheep mask in the mirror crap before the match happened, because that was some WCW awful
Naomi vs AJ: ZZZZzzzzz. This leads to a clusterfuck Diva's match at Wrestlemania that includes the likes of Eva Marie and Rosa Mendez? Fuck that
Shield vs Real Americans: Fantastic. Too bad the Shield are being completely wasted at Wrestlemania. Instead of seeing these three going at each other, or having the Wyatts involved, they get to deal with the Corporate Geriatrics. That's just sad
Lesnar/Undertaker segment: Didn't like it at all. This build has been extremely disappointing. I'm tired of Takers extremely long druid segments that leads to hearing that chanting forever while NOTHING happens
A 14-way match? Really WWE? You don't see how that ends up in a clusterfuck?
The only way that would work is if they made it a Battle Royal (which they already have on the card, so that's a no-go) or if they make it a Gauntlet match, which would be awesome if this weren't WWE, where it would mean AJ takes out eveyone with simple moves like dropkicks in 10 seconds until the final person enters the ring (Tamina second to last, loses, takes out AJ with her superkick so Nikki or whoever can just pin and leave). Match goes 10 minutes, everyone boos.
And all to promote a program that has proven to have next to none overlap in audiences. Which is fine, just keep them seperate and everyone's happy. There is absolutely no reason Total Divas need to be pushed on main WWE, because the E! Audience will watch that show without it and the people watching main WWE won't regardless.
Should have just done AJ vs. Natalya 2 and have a good 15-minute match at Mania, that could've been a TD storyline and have been a good match for the crowd.
Plus it makes the title once again look like shit, the win will mean nothing since it's a 14-way, while defeating a 300+ days douchebag heel champion one-on-one actually gives some credibility to the win.
The only way that would work is if they made it a Battle Royal (which they already have on the card, so that's a no-go) or if they make it a Gauntlet match, which would be awesome if this weren't WWE, where it would mean AJ takes out eveyone with simple moves like dropkicks in 10 seconds until the final person enters the ring (Tamina second to last, loses, takes out AJ with her superkick so Nikki or whoever can just pin and leave). Match goes 10 minutes, everyone boos.
And all to promote a program that has proven to have next to none overlap in audiences. Which is fine, just keep them seperate and everyone's happy. There is absolutely no reason Total Divas need to be pushed on main WWE, because the E! Audience will watch that show without it and the people watching main WWE won't regardless.
Should have just done AJ vs. Natalya 2 and have a good 15-minute match at Mania, that could've been a TD storyline and have been a good match for the crowd.
Plus it makes the title once again look like shit, the win will mean nothing since it's a 14-way, while defeating a 300+ days douchebag heel champion one-on-one actually gives some credibility to the win.
But AJ could win...
Couldn't she?
If it's a gauntlet, then perhaps have the final entrant take AJ to the limit - kicking out of Shining Wizards, not submitting to the Black Widow, but let AJ win eventually. Re-do the Santino Elimination Chamber setting - a sure-fire way to set up a decent wrestling feud after WM.
Couldn't she?
Clearly not - she's going to be buried so deeply, CM Punk will have to change his name to King Arthur etc etc.
If it's a gauntlet, then perhaps have the final entrant take AJ to the limit - kicking out of Shining Wizards, not submitting to the Black Widow, but let AJ win eventually. Re-do the Santino Elimination Chamber setting - a sure-fire way to set up a decent wrestling feud after WM.
I know it won't happen.
Looking back, the last singles match for the Women's / Diva's title on "the biggest stage of them all" was... WM 23 (Melina vs Ashley). That's a superb way to shit on an entire element of your product. I can't even think of a "real world" comparison, as to how bad that is. This should be the time they build a nice little competitive feud in the two or three weeks beforehand (perhaps longer), then give them 10-15 minutes to put on a decent match.
Oh yeah, WWE.
"Needs" to get as many names as possible on the card, to keep everyone happy, and pay the last of the PPV bonuses (same with the Andre rumble). The thing is, you don't have to shoe-horn everyone into a match. They did some backstage skits a few years ago (I remember Ryder singing Friday and getting levelled by Piper, which didn't harm him - in the short term at least!), which is probably a higher quality way of showing people off - i.e. not dragging the match quality down by two shitty matches.
The other thing is, this is a performance-related business. If you haven't delivered the goods in the past twelve months, then you don't deserve to be in the ring on the biggest night of the year.
Edit: I've just re-read that - I'm sure I know what I'm trying to say...
Oh yeah, WWE.
"Needs" to get as many names as possible on the card, to keep everyone happy, and pay the last of the PPV bonuses (same with the Andre rumble). The thing is, you don't have to shoe-horn everyone into a match. They did some backstage skits a few years ago (I remember Ryder singing Friday and getting levelled by Piper, which didn't harm him - in the short term at least!), which is probably a higher quality way of showing people off - i.e. not dragging the match quality down by two shitty matches.
The other thing is, this is a performance-related business. If you haven't delivered the goods in the past twelve months, then you don't deserve to be in the ring on the biggest night of the year.
Edit: I've just re-read that - I'm sure I know what I'm trying to say...
davidsaurus
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This needs to be reversed with a "deal with it" treatment.
Not my work.. but it has been done.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I'm not with some of the sentiment here. I thought Raw was amazing. Two memorable moments with Taker and the Wyatts. The Cena mirror thing was really bad, though.
I'd be stunned if she got Drew McIntyre'd.
Hah....still wondering about it...of course she's the good girlfriend and wouldn't want me to give it up for her....but yeah.
Also, she actually is a fan, I've seen it. I can tell general interest vs oh that's interesting. She just hasn't been a fan as long as I have (Thuganomics Cena was in the first match she saw...so, yeah), or gone as deep into the rabbit hole as I have (and I don't blame anyone who is a casual fan for not going to the depths we go) but now that she knows me, she'll at least be exposed to it.
WWE's interest in promoting a Divas match at Mania ended when they stopped their annual deal with Playboy.
Give it a couple of years.
I don't even know what kind of match this "Divas Invitational" is meant to be, whether it's a Battle Royal, a Fatal 13 way, or a Fatal 13 Way Elimination. All three are going to be fucking awful. People just rolling out of the ring, everyone staying on the floor outside, or everyone getting pinned by dropkicks and arm drags, that's your three choices.
I think the technical term is "clusterfuck". Can't see that being the graphic on the match card, but one can hope. Gauntlet is the best chance.
I'm waiting for a #saveuspaige from Rafa now...
If I was Paige I would decline any and all offers to go to main WWE and just stay down in Tampa, enjoy the sun and wrestle 10-minute matches on NXT every three weeks.
Who would leave that to go on the road 300 days to be put in 3-minute matches to promote a show you aren't even on.
Who would leave that to go on the road 300 days to be put in 3-minute matches to promote a show you aren't even on.
Don't forget a Gail-Kim-esq crawl under the bottom rope and walk off.
Nocturnowl
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We've finally reached the moment for the ultimate form of the traditional divas match finish, a conga line of roll ups which has everyone except the person at the end of this cradle conga getting pinned.
We already had that at Survivor Series though.
Also to promote Total Divas.
As much as I enjoy TD, the way it's destroying any hope of direction the Divas might get is just pissing me off to no end.
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I googled, and couldn't find anything remotely suitable at all. I need to rinse my eyes out now.
I wasn't aware it existed until long after WCW died. I feel like it was on a local Atlanta version of TBS, and not the national version.
While there is a cornfield close to my house, most of the kids playing basketball around here are black or Latinos.
Oh god, did you see the YouTube video of "what happened"? That had me laughing at the time.
Not safe for anyone with good taste: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AGY8Nle7c
EDIT: Might be the wrong one since he doesn't have the sequels up on his profile. No sound at work so cannot confirm. Looks right though.
Nocturnowl
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We did? well shit, that was over 3 months ago so we can do it again.
The diva division manages to feel direction-less with its actual single focus direction over the last 6 odd months centered entirely around Total Divas shilling with AJ stuck in the middle.
I know it seems to be the thing these days around here to for some dismiss AJ for some reason but she deserves a hell of a lot better than this perpetual story cycle against characterless opponents who most of the time can barely wrestle a lick, I mean i'm not expecting much from the divas division but this is just getting miserable right now.
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