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Mario Kart 8 is the worst 3d mario kart
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Lord of Ostia
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The only criticism I can agree with from this thread is battle mode. Yes it sucks, and it's egregious that they just used regular tracks rather than making actual arenas. Especially because Mario Kart 7 has a relatively good battle mode. Wtf Nintendo? Otherwise it's my favorite Mario Kart.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Not nearly as good as MK7 but MK8 is up there as one of the best in the series. C'mon, man.
Never understood people who say MK battle mode was never good. It was fantastic in the original, 64, and DS versions, okay in DD, and horrible in the rest. Honestly I wish they would make a game with nothing but battle mode. Have it super fleshed out. I would buy that in a heartbeat. MK battle mode in 64 was up there with Smash 64 and Golden Eye for my friends and I.
lol, this.
Sebastian Suola
Member
I agree with OP. The tracks are boring! The items and their distribution is totally boring. Crazy comebacks are really hard to pull off. Also the character roster is boring as well.
MK8 is an okay game but I had a lot more fun with DD and Wii. I don't understand why Wii is so hated! Yeah certain bikes are overpowered. Yeah you are going to get destroyed by items every once in a while. So what? The game is SUPER FUN!
MK8 is an okay game but I had a lot more fun with DD and Wii. I don't understand why Wii is so hated! Yeah certain bikes are overpowered. Yeah you are going to get destroyed by items every once in a while. So what? The game is SUPER FUN!
TheMoon
Member
Pretty much.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'll never understand this argument, either.
Huge selection of classic Mario characters, along with the DLC of Link, Isabelle, and Villager. No Diddy Kong or Boo does not make the huge roster "boring."
Huge Succeeded
Banned
edit: half these images don't work anyway so I'll just reiterate - half of that OP is just pure insanity that I just can't get over, lmao. The way Items work, and the flawed battle mode, are merited complaints. Everything else is... well, it's almost like OP hasn't played Mario Kart in like 10 years, but he'd have us believe that he's played every one up to this point...
The Horror the horror
Banned
I was having a stellar day before I opened this thread. Now I have to drink it off.
FU op
FU op
Agreed. MK8 has issues though for sure and I would agree with many of the OP's complaints, yet it is the first MK is years I have actually enjoyed even if it hasn't really grown or matured beyond its foundations in decades.
Wowfunhappy
Member
MK8 is so good, that it has retroactively ruined all the other Mario Kart games for me. I can't play them anymore. They just feel so drab and boring all of a sudden.
I love MK8.
I love MK8.
Irishonion
Member
Boring tracks..wut?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yep. That said, this is the only advantage that game has over any other. That game may have the biggest rose-colored glasses fanbase in history. The CPU is garbage, abuses powerups repeatedly, has terrible rubberband AI, and takes the EXACT same racing line around the track every time.
themagicalkitsune
Member
Magical moments like these will never happen in Mario Kart 8.
In Conclusion: The Game Fails On All Fronts
The fans of this game will try to defend it by saying the graphics are amazing, that there is so much content, that they thought the tracks were great, and that I suck at it and I'm bitter.
You know you see a contrarian opinion for the sake of being contrarian when the argument ignores all the overwhelmingly good qualities of the game and instead relegates them to a dismissive "yeah now watch fans of the game defend it by [actually listing the good qualities of the game and pointing out where I'm wrong]".
You call 8 the worst when 7 doesn't even include VS mode? And you're angry about Battle Mode? :lol
Also I would like to see your face after experiencing such magical moments like the gif. I'm sure you'll find that you're not as fond of them as you would like to believe.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It's easily the best playing and looking game in the whole series.
The tracks are short but sweet.
The item system is as cheap as fuck(maybe cheaper) and takes away a lot of skill. I know it's known for its "everyone has a chance" casual competition but red shells, too big Bullet Bills, etc... make it rage inducing.
The music is the best in the series unless you hate jazz.
Overall, it's flawed but the core game makes it amongst the best in the franchise.
PS Battle mode has sucked for a looooong time. Not condoning it but expectations should have been nonexistent since it's not a priority anymore.
The tracks are short but sweet.
The item system is as cheap as fuck(maybe cheaper) and takes away a lot of skill. I know it's known for its "everyone has a chance" casual competition but red shells, too big Bullet Bills, etc... make it rage inducing.
The music is the best in the series unless you hate jazz.
Overall, it's flawed but the core game makes it amongst the best in the franchise.
PS Battle mode has sucked for a looooong time. Not condoning it but expectations should have been nonexistent since it's not a priority anymore.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
The only thing I agree with is that the battle mode sucks. I'd love a fleshed out battle mode.
MK Wii plays like dogshit after playing MK8.
Everything seems off. Tracks are way too wide, item spam and the massive slowdown killed my enjoyment. I bought it for the sake of completion as I didn't have it back on the Wii. Played through everything once and I was done. Picked up MK8 again and it hooked me again.
I hope next MK games keep this level of quality. Nintendo could make a NX port with all DLC plus a competent battle mode and they'd get away with it.
Everything seems off. Tracks are way too wide, item spam and the massive slowdown killed my enjoyment. I bought it for the sake of completion as I didn't have it back on the Wii. Played through everything once and I was done. Picked up MK8 again and it hooked me again.
I hope next MK games keep this level of quality. Nintendo could make a NX port with all DLC plus a competent battle mode and they'd get away with it.
More appalled by the fact that people think MK64 has aged well and arent just blinded by nostalgia. The battle mode is fantastic yes, and MK8 does have a garbage battle mode, but i tried going back to MK64 and i would honestly rather play Super Circuit than deal with that shit.
blame space
Banned
what in the world
Not the worst, Wii is the worst. Double Dash is the secret best; seriously the drifting and mini-turbo mechanics are perfect in that game, and there are actually narrow tracks to test your drifting skills on (the bridge on Dino Dino, the Bowser Castle track jump, the DK Mountain canyon hop). Game is great. The complaint about items being too weak in 8 doesn't make any sense in this light; perfect drifting in Double Dash meant you were untouchable, as red shells (and even occasionally blue shells) were able to be dodged with a well-timed mini-turbo. Which made the Bowser Shell the best weapon in the game.
Mario Kart 8 is better than 64, DS, and Wii by a fair margin, though.
Mario Kart 8 is better than 64, DS, and Wii by a fair margin, though.
Green Mamba
Member
Battle mode sucks and the roster is weak but outside of that get the fuck outta here.
Godzilla's Left Toe
Member
MK8 the worst? lol. and people actually play battle mode?
oneofthose
Banned
mario kart 8 roster is nothing special but who cares, don't get why people make a big deal out of it, its not like the characters give you anything extra abilities. They are merely cosmetic.
mourad louali
Member
There is no such thing as a bad Mario Kart. Even Double Dash was great.
My personal experience with every new Mario Kart release is that I hate the game until it finally clicks with me. I did that for every game with the exception of Mario Kart 8. I loved that game just by watching E3 videos on Youtube.
So I think you are crazy lol
Edit : My only complain is that Diddy Kong isn't in the game
My personal experience with every new Mario Kart release is that I hate the game until it finally clicks with me. I did that for every game with the exception of Mario Kart 8. I loved that game just by watching E3 videos on Youtube.
So I think you are crazy lol
Edit : My only complain is that Diddy Kong isn't in the game
Of all the courses in this game, you choose Wario Stadium as the standout? Cloudtop Cruise, Bone Dry Dunes, Electrodome are way cooler.
Driving on the walls/ceiling and having access to different paths for evasion or better item usage is a cosmetic addition. Got it.
You claim that breaking away from the pack at the start is important, and then say the characters with the absolute slowest acceleration in the game have an unfair advantage. In time trials, yes, the heavy characters are overpowered, but in GP- a mode where you're constantly pelted by shells and other items- the frequent momentum halts take their toll. You can avoid a lot of small items in first, but you can't get away from blue shells, bloops, or bolts, and they happen all the fucking time.
Tracks Are Wide As Shit
... It's really noticeable when you play retro tracks like peach's castle or yoshi's circuit (dlc track) and they are so much wider than they originally were, ruining the tightly designed nature of them and sapping the fun they elicit as an outcome. According to the developers, the tracks were given increased width because it needed to accommodate the space needed for 12 players racing simultaneously. I vehemently disagree with this design decision.
You're talking about how badly all the characters are stuck together and fighting it out one minute, then complaining that the tracks aren't tight enough the next. It's also not just about player count, but the dramatically different drift types that can be selected now. The road has to accommodate inside and outside drift patterns, and the handling variations in general prevents a single type of tight curve from working with all karts/bikes. I personally love the remastered levels and think most of them are the best version there's been; N64 rainbow road in particular blows the original away.
No disagreements there. They did blow a lot of potential with junk characters, but in fairness, the roster is pretty huge and you're bound to find characters you like regardless.
Okay, yes, again, that's right. They obviously didn't give this much time in the oven. If they do an NX re-release, they need to fix this.
You Can't Knock Players Off Track Anymore
Magical moments like these will never happen in Mario Kart 8. Even if it scars the player its happening to, its a part of what makes mario kart special, and I will not stand to see this removed. At the very least, Nintendo could give us the option in a settings menu to disable fast lakitu recovery in local multiplayer.
This is bullshit. I've actually got a few moments like that saved in my MKTV because I was so angry at getting fucked by a half dozen items in a row that I needed to document it. You're not acknowledging the fact that hangliding is a major part of this game and that any small item can cause a drop in midair- including the lightning bolts, which happen fucking every lap in some races.
Nope. It's a great game, and handily the best all around Mariokart. It has flaws, and some of them are even very frustrating to me, but I'd still boot it up over any other MK game.
The disrespect for battle mode up in here is kinda depressing. We're so used to having mediocre battle modes that we just discard it as some side content rather than being a compliment to the racing mechanics. If theres one thing to commend MKWii on its that i played its battle mode online far more than MK8.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I played more N64 Battle Mode than any Mario Kart racing mode on any of the games.
It's THAT good and a missed opportunity by Nintendo.
Polioliolio
Member
It has the best soundtrack and looks amazing, but I have to agree with you.
(Edit: it's better than the Wii game. I love mario kart, and I hated that game, although playing on an emulator with a 360 controller and high res split screen was more fun..
What I'm agreeing with is that Mario Kart 8 ain't all that. It's good, but it gets dull really fast. The N64 game is my favorite.. Best crash physics in the series)
I couldn't quite articulate myself, but my complaints are probably somewhere in your breakdown.... The nature of the game play.. It's like once you know how to play the game decently, you can play it in your sleep. Almost every track feels nearly identical in how you play the game.. There's no complexity to it and it feels dull. I was excited about the DLC tracks but even while playing them I felt bored by them.
The tracks being fucking wide was a complaint I had with double dash even, but yeah, it's worse than ever. It's like they knew some people kept going off track so the solution was to make the track wider than the sun. Have you ever driven up to one of the characters jumping around on the side of the race track? They are enormous! It almost suggests that the player characters were scaled down to give ample space for players who have trouble staying on the track. I've often thought that scaling the entire level down would make for a tighter, more fun race track.
(Edit: it's better than the Wii game. I love mario kart, and I hated that game, although playing on an emulator with a 360 controller and high res split screen was more fun..
What I'm agreeing with is that Mario Kart 8 ain't all that. It's good, but it gets dull really fast. The N64 game is my favorite.. Best crash physics in the series)
I couldn't quite articulate myself, but my complaints are probably somewhere in your breakdown.... The nature of the game play.. It's like once you know how to play the game decently, you can play it in your sleep. Almost every track feels nearly identical in how you play the game.. There's no complexity to it and it feels dull. I was excited about the DLC tracks but even while playing them I felt bored by them.
The tracks being fucking wide was a complaint I had with double dash even, but yeah, it's worse than ever. It's like they knew some people kept going off track so the solution was to make the track wider than the sun. Have you ever driven up to one of the characters jumping around on the side of the race track? They are enormous! It almost suggests that the player characters were scaled down to give ample space for players who have trouble staying on the track. I've often thought that scaling the entire level down would make for a tighter, more fun race track.
The classic level selection was a tad poor. The roster was poor. Many great items are missing.
But the new levels are all incredible, as was the DLC. And the classic levels were all given a new coat of paint, so even though the selection wasn't great (Particularly from the wii game), the levels themselves (besides Grumble Mountain) were amazing.
EDIT: Electrodome, Mount Wario are two of the best MK tracks ever.
But the new levels are all incredible, as was the DLC. And the classic levels were all given a new coat of paint, so even though the selection wasn't great (Particularly from the wii game), the levels themselves (besides Grumble Mountain) were amazing.
EDIT: Electrodome, Mount Wario are two of the best MK tracks ever.
I agree with a few criticisms of yours OP (like the Star being too weak, and getting caught in the middle of the pack is too often a losing scenario), but even with these weaknesses I think MK8 is definitely the best overall 3D MK.
I have a soft spot for Mariokart Wii, I like the course design better, but I know most people won't agree with me. lol
I have a soft spot for Mariokart Wii, I like the course design better, but I know most people won't agree with me. lol
JudgmentJay
Member
I think it's a pretty great video game. Definitely my favorite Mario Kart to date.
shiftplusone
Member
mario kart 64 is the attitude era of mario kart
it was the shit when you were a kid but it actually fuckin sucked.
Mario Kart 8 is a game I had a lot of fun with. Don't really like it (my fondest memories are with double dash) but MK8 is better than wii and 64 at minimum
It most definitely has the worst possible roster they could have picked though
it was the shit when you were a kid but it actually fuckin sucked.
Mario Kart 8 is a game I had a lot of fun with. Don't really like it (my fondest memories are with double dash) but MK8 is better than wii and 64 at minimum
It most definitely has the worst possible roster they could have picked though
DD is the worst mk ever made, specially because they removed the jumpslide in it.
N64 was one of the best, think mk8 is one of the best games made this gen and maybe also the best mk ever.
The tracks aren't boring, but they can do maybe so little more interacting with the players. It shows that you aren't a core gamer, because it's the best gameplay from all mks out there. I agree with the battle mode. It was best on mk64
I know forza5 was one of the racegames people liked. Compared to mk8(that of course are 2 different games), what is the fun factor in forza 5?
N64 was one of the best, think mk8 is one of the best games made this gen and maybe also the best mk ever.
The tracks aren't boring, but they can do maybe so little more interacting with the players. It shows that you aren't a core gamer, because it's the best gameplay from all mks out there. I agree with the battle mode. It was best on mk64
I know forza5 was one of the racegames people liked. Compared to mk8(that of course are 2 different games), what is the fun factor in forza 5?
captain_skyhawk
Member
Op has some good criticism but they hardly blemish this solid experience. Personally I think mk64 was the goat but that's just me.
Mk8 fixed a lot of issues with the series and is a solid package with a great online experience(for nintendo).
Mk8 fixed a lot of issues with the series and is a solid package with a great online experience(for nintendo).