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Married with Children returning to TV...sorta

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Don't want.

Part of the MWC charm was how un PC it was. They would never be able to pull off that stuff in this day and age. It would just become a regular sitcom.
 

MisterHero

Super Member
Don't want.

Part of the MWC charm was how un PC it was. They would never be able to pull off that stuff in this day and age. It would just become a regular sitcom.
Aren't there dirtier shows on TV now?

I'd like for the old level of inappropriateness to drive this show but I'm actually concerned people won't think it's edgy enough.
 

Lothar

Banned
At the same time Married with Children was the funniest sitcom, it also might be the most heartwarming. The countless times they joined together to beat a common enemy, Al being overprotective of Kelly, Al begging 18 year old Kelly in her apartment to come back home, how sad and concerned Peggy got when she thought Al might leave her, how obvious it was that they all enjoyed insulting each other - they always said it with a smile on their face - it was never mean spirited. None of them ever took it personally, yelled, or got angry. They just made a quip back, usually smiling while they did it.
 

Krejlooc

Banned
At the same time Married with Children was the funniest sitcom, it also might be the most heartwarming. The countless times they joined together to beat a common enemy, Al being overprotective of Kelly, Al begging 18 year old Kelly in her apartment to come back home, how sad and concerned Peggy got when she thought Al might leave her, how obvious it was that they all enjoyed insulting each other - they always said it with a smile on their face - it was never mean spirited. None of them ever took it personally, yelled, or got angry. They just made a quip back, usually smiling while they did it.

Al did leave Peg. And then Peg got a boyfriend.

While I don't disagree that MWC had heart warming moments, calling it the most heartwarming is just wrong, because the simpsons were in their prime at the same time, and the cosby's ran opposite of both. Like, depending on which direction you want to go, I'd call either of those way more heartwarming than MWC.

There are numerous simpsons episodes which brought tears to my eyes. The best Married With Children got was Al's "I'm not a loser" speech, which, admittedly, was way badass and one of my favorite TV speeches.
 
Aren't there dirtier shows on TV now?

I'd like for the old level of inappropriateness to drive this show but I'm actually concerned people won't think it's edgy enough.

I don't think I have seen anything on prime time network tv today that comes close to MWC. And sure there are dirtier shows on cable but dirty jokes and un PCness are differwnt IMo.
 

Krejlooc

Banned
I don't think I have seen anything on prime time network tv today that comes close to MWC. And sure there are dirtier shows on cable but dirty jokes and un PCness are differwnt IMo.

Like, just at face value, Family Guy pushes the envelope much further than Married With Children. In family guy, you have husbands beating their wives, pedophilia, child abuse, etc. the vague sexual jokes of MWC are overt sexual jokes in Family Guy.

MWC was very edgy back in the day. today, it's tame. not because it's gotten soft, but because the world itself has gotten much more edgy.
 

Ferrio

Banned
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Like, just at face value, Family Guy pushes the envelope much further than Married With Children. In family guy, you have husbands beating their wives, pedophilia, child abuse, etc. the vague sexual jokes of MWC are overt sexual jokes in Family Guy.

MWC was very edgy back in the day. today, it's tame. not because it's gotten soft, but because the world itself has gotten much more edgy.

Dirty and pc are too different things.

MWC has moments of shocking homophobia and sexism that would never be on tv today. I haven't seen Family guy ever come close to some of the stuff.
 

Krejlooc

Banned
Dirty and pc are too different things.

MWC has moments of shocking homophobia and sexism that would never be on tv today. I haven't seen Family guy ever come close to some of the stuff.

I suggest watching the episode of Family guy where Peter becomes gay to satisfy both of your criteria for anti-PC.

EDIT: In other words, homophobia and sexism galore.

EDIT AGAIN: And the episode of Married With Children that revolves around homosexuality - the episode with Marcy's Cousin - is actually very tolerant. Quote Al: "I have no problem with being gay."

Don't forget, one of the stars, writers, and directors of Married With Children, Amanda Bearse, is a lesbian and feminist.
 

Skilotonn

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Amanda Bearse was also the director for most of Married with Children (and essentially got David Faustino into directing) and co-wrote many episodes. She was very much involved with the show.

EDIT: Whoa! Amanda Bearse aged super gracefully! She looks exactly the same! She could totally be in the show.

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so did Ted McGinnley:

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Always love to see the actors that I enjoyed watching as a kid. Did not know Marcy was also directing and writing episodes herself even. And they both look good now too.
 

Verdre

Unconfirmed Member
Dirty and pc are too different things.

MWC has moments of shocking homophobia and sexism that would never be on tv today. I haven't seen Family guy ever come close to some of the stuff.

MWC did a lot of un PC stuff, but it usually handled homosexuality and transgender decently. In the episodes where they were heavily involved with the plot it usually began with Al not understanding and being repulsed and then coming to accept them by the end.

Edit: As Krejlooc pointed out, Marcy's cousin is one example and in another an old highschool football friend of Al's turns out to be transgender.
 
And the episode where Peg's dancing with that guy who turns out to be gay and then Al prefers that guy's partner to Peg because he was a great cook and liked sports (played by the voice of Homer Simpson, Dan Castellaneta)
 

Lothar

Banned
Al did leave Peg. And then Peg got a boyfriend.

While I don't disagree that MWC had heart warming moments, calling it the most heartwarming is just wrong, because the simpsons were in their prime at the same time, and the cosby's ran opposite of both. Like, depending on which direction you want to go, I'd call either of those way more heartwarming than MWC.

There are numerous simpsons episodes which brought tears to my eyes. The best Married With Children got was Al's "I'm not a loser" speech, which, admittedly, was way badass and one of my favorite TV speeches.

Homer was strangling Bart damn near every episode. Married didn't have as many sappy moments as the Simpsons but they seemed to be enjoying each other almost all of the time, even if it was just enjoying making fun of each other. The Married family was rarely ever sincerely upset with each other. Simpsons fought all the time. And real fought, not just trading funny barbs.
 
This was never a favourite of mine. I'd watch it if nothing else was on, but the humour just didn't compare to other sitcoms of its time in my opinion.

I don't think we really need a spin-off.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Bud Bundy was the worst Bundy.

There was some point where he was pretty tolerable, but he turned into a massive, annoying loser.

I'm not really too hot on this idea. I mean, is it gonna be done in the same style that the original MWC was? They don't do sitcoms like that anymore.
 
Just pretend AL divorced Peg and married Sofia Vergara and got rich. Peg married a biker and became an old lady. Kelly lost her memory and became bffs with Melissa mccarthy. Bud ceased to exist.
 

Krejlooc

Banned
You anti-bud people are nuts, bud was perfectly fine. The episode where he is the face of the virgin hotline or the episode where he's caught masturbating in the public library are both hilarious. I love when he screams in horror at looking at the librarian naked in the nudie magazine.

EDIT: The worst episode of probably the entire show is the one where he splits in two, though. That, or the two spin-off episodes that barely featured the bundys at all.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
You anti-bud people are nuts, bud was perfectly fine. The episode where he is the face of the virgin hotline or the episode where he's caught masturbating in the public library are both hilarious. I love when he screams in horror at looking at the librarian naked in the nudie magazine.

Bud was involved in good episodes, but the character himself was not really good.
 

Krejlooc

Banned
Bud was involved in good episodes, but the character himself was not really good.

The character himself changed more than any other character in the show. He went through periods of being the smartest person in the house, to being a rapper, to being in a fraternity. He was constantly trying to join no-ma'am, he was always after ass, he was usually Kelly's foil. I thought he was a great character. He was essentially duct tape, he was whatever the episode called for. And yet, he was still distinctively a bundy, without feeling forced like Seven.
 

RionaaM

Unconfirmed Member
Well If you watch enough episodes, the love really is apparent. For one thing, they are never ever mad with each other. They insult each other all the time, but no one gets angry, they just say a funny quip back. How many other families in sitcoms can say that? I wish my family was more like that. Al and Peggy always insult each other but they never truly fight, and when one of them thinks the other is cheating on them that bothers them a lot. Neither one really wants to leave or wants the other to leave.

When Kelly wants to leave home at 18 because Al won't let her have boyfriends, he pretty much goes to her apartment and begs her to come back and live home.
Not to mention the ending of the episode where Al gets his car lost in a car wash. That moved me a lot, I wasn't expecting that at all. For those who haven't seen it,
Peggy spent the whole episode critizing Al for keeping his porn magazines in the trunk of the car and wanting to recover them, but he always denied it, saying that wasn't what made him sad. Cut to the final scene, when they finally found the car and the family gets inside. Al opens the trunk, smiles and grabs something from inside: one of his porn magazines. He opens it and then the camera moves behind him, only to show that there was a photo of the family hidden inside.
I feel happy just thinking about it, what a fantastic show it was.

I sincerely hope they don't ruin the new show. Here in Argentina an adaptation was made, but it was atrocious and made me feel angry about how it disrespected the source material.
 

old

Member
Greatest TV show in history. Would definitely watch a reboot. But the original was far from PC in its humor. Let's see if the reboot follows suit.
 

Krejlooc

Banned
Not to mention the ending of the episode where Al gets his car lost in a car wash. That moved me a lot, I wasn't expecting that at all. For those who haven't seen it,
Peggy spent the whole episode critizing Al for keeping his porn magazines in the trunk of the car and wanting to recover them, but he always denied it, saying that wasn't what made him sad. Cut to the final scene, when they finally found the car and the family gets inside. Al opens the trunk, smiles and grabs something from inside: one of his porn magazines. He opens it and then the camera moves behind him, only to show that there was a photo of the family hidden inside.
I feel happy just thinking about it, what a fantastic show it was.

I sincerely hope they don't ruin the new show. Here in Argentina an adaptation was made, but it was atrocious and made me feel angry about how it disrespected the source material.

Er, that was a classic TV gag.
It aired during sweeps week, hence the out of character ending.

Always Sunny recently did an episode last season that revolved entirely around that same joke.
the joke being that the show is willing to sell out and get overtly sappy to try and win an academy award
.
Listed among numerous other examples here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OscarBait

the main part of the joke is
"FOR YOUR EMMY CONSIDERATION"
being plastered over the screen during the ending.
 

RionaaM

Unconfirmed Member
Er, that was a classic TV gag.
It aired during sweeps week, hence the out of character ending.

Always Sunny recently did an episode last season that revolved entirely around that same joke.
the joke being that the show is willing to sell out and get overtly sappy to try and win an academy award
.
Listed among numerous other examples here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OscarBait

the main part of the joke is
"FOR YOUR EMMY CONSIDERATION"
being plastered over the screen during the ending.
What? Memories ruined :(

Now you're gonna ruin the episode where Santa Claus dies in the Bundy's backyard too, right? Please tell me I'm wrong!
 
Er, that was a classic TV gag.
It aired during sweeps week, hence the out of character ending.

Always Sunny recently did an episode last season that revolved entirely around that same joke.
the joke being that the show is willing to sell out and get overtly sappy to try and win an academy award
.
Listed among numerous other examples here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OscarBait

the main part of the joke is
"FOR YOUR EMMY CONSIDERATION"
being plastered over the screen during the ending.
That was the 200th episode. The most for a single comedy sitcom at the time iirc. It was sappy as a nod to the fans for their support. Hence the early photo.
 
Get the dodge out of hell is the 199th episode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Married..._with_Children_episodes

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Further, the Cosby Show passed 200 episodes 3 years prior.

Apparently it was 199 but it was advertised S the 200th episode. Confirmed this online and I distinctly remember the ads for it as I was an avid fan.

My point still stands. Steve came back, the car dying ideA, the end. It was a special episode for a commemoration.

I might be wrong about longest. Maybe hat was combining Cosby shows?
 

Krejlooc

Banned
What streaming service is this?

It's XBMC from my own DVD rips.

Apparently it was 199 but it was advertised S the 200th episode. Confirmed this online and I distinctly remember the ads for it as I was an avid fan.

My point still stands. Steve came back, the car dying ideA, the end. It was a special episode for a commemoration.

I might be wrong about longest. Maybe hat was combining Cosby shows?

This was Steves 3rd reappearance, the car doesn't die in the episode (it gets lost), and they speak about sweeps week in the DVD commentary.
 

MAtgS

Member
E! reports this morning that a new take on "Married... With Children" is in the works with plans for a spinoff series to follow the life of David Faustino's Bud Bundy and, presumably, his new family.
Am I only 1 hoping that if this happens it's Amber he's married to? On one hand it'd provide plenty of reason to have Marcy guest appearances. On the other, well I always did kinda secretly hoped those two got back together post-series.
 
Yeah, this sounds rather unneeded...

Unhappy after ever 2 starring Nikki Cox's hot daughter.

Nikki Cox... =(

Unhappily Ever After was supposed to be kind of a spoof/take-off that was created by people who worked on MWC. Faustino actually appeared in an episode or two.


I found Tiffany way hotter than Kelly and it always bums me out remembering what Nikki Cox did to herself.
 
I suggest watching the episode of Family guy where Peter becomes gay to satisfy both of your criteria for anti-PC.

EDIT: In other words, homophobia and sexism galore.

EDIT AGAIN: And the episode of Married With Children that revolves around homosexuality - the episode with Marcy's Cousin - is actually very tolerant. Quote Al: "I have no problem with being gay."

Don't forget, one of the stars, writers, and directors of Married With Children, Amanda Bearse, is a lesbian and feminist.

MWC did a lot of un PC stuff, but it usually handled homosexuality and transgender decently. In the episodes where they were heavily involved with the plot it usually began with Al not understanding and being repulsed and then coming to accept them by the end.

Edit: As Krejlooc pointed out, Marcy's cousin is one example and in another an old highschool football friend of Al's turns out to be transgender.

They make some very dark comments about homosexuals in some of the early seasons. The cousin episode was well handled, but Al in the early years was brutal on the issue
 

Krejlooc

Banned
They make some very dark comments about homosexuals in some of the early seasons. The cousin episode was well handled, but Al in the early years was brutal on the issue

Al was brutal on most issues. He was written to be an Archy Bunker.

I actually think the show could work today as is, specifically because we've moved towards a more politically correct culture. It works best when you view it as satire.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
They make some very dark comments about homosexuals in some of the early seasons. The cousin episode was well handled, but Al in the early years was brutal on the issue

Probably the biggest difference is that fat acceptance basically didn't exist yet when the show started.
 

ReiGun

Member
At the same time Married with Children was the funniest sitcom, it also might be the most heartwarming. The countless times they joined together to beat a common enemy, Al being overprotective of Kelly, Al begging 18 year old Kelly in her apartment to come back home, how sad and concerned Peggy got when she thought Al might leave her, how obvious it was that they all enjoyed insulting each other - they always said it with a smile on their face - it was never mean spirited. None of them ever took it personally, yelled, or got angry. They just made a quip back, usually smiling while they did it.
Yeah the Bundy's never really disliked each other so much as they disliked their low quality of life and they kind of blamed each other for it. It was still all love though.

Aren't there dirtier shows on TV now?

I'd like for the old level of inappropriateness to drive this show but I'm actually concerned people won't think it's edgy enough.

There are, which is why I don't understand why everyone is acting like every show is now Full House or something.
 
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