PhoncipleBone
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The other great moment in it is when Silver Surfer gets turned to 11 and unleashed on everyone. A definite FUCK YEAH moment.
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Marvel Cinematic Universe |OT| Discussion on released and future projects (spoilers)
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super skrull is with fox, not the skrull race.
TDLink
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It actually says "Tony Stark Will Return". It is obviously just saying that he will be in Avengers 2.
Unfortunately they wouldn't be able to use him either. Using the entire GotG in the story (instead of just Gamora and Drax) can make up for it though,
GuitarAtomik
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How would you even do Civil War when all of the superheros in the current universe have not so secret identities? Hell, the only two people in the Avengers who don't work for SHIELD are the Hulk and Iron Man.
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The initial deal was:
Doctor Doom/Victor von Doom, Human Torch/Johnny Storm, Invisible Woman/Susan Storm, Mr. Fantastic/Dr. Reed Richards, The Thing/Ben Grimm, Nova/Frankie Raye, Alicia Masters, Willie Lumpkin
Silver Surfer, Super Skrull, Galactus, and the ability to use The Skrulls are part of a separate additional deal signed with FOX that is now attached to the original FF deal. Apparently they can let this other deal go separately if they want though considering there were negotiations to do so last fall before Daredevil returned to Marvel.
PhoncipleBone
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I know they can't use Surfer, and it sucks. That moment was totally awesome too.
And since no Galactus either, they would have to lost the whole thing of him being enslaved and weaponized.
But they have enough with Annihilus going from planet to planet and wiping out all life. That is badass enough for a film.
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Annihilus can just have a giant planet draining super weapon that isn't Galactus and that plot can more or less remain the same.
Really taking the Galactus (and also Silver Surfer/other Heralds) part out probably is better for a movie version anyways. It adds less for the audience to keep track of and would make the story tighter (even if some of that stuff is great).
Mighty Chin
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Walt Simonson's Run #337-380ish i believe.
PhoncipleBone
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Get a hold of the Walt Simonson run of comics. Epic stuff.
And I am a huge fan of the Jurgens/Romita Jr. run. Especially the first twelve issues. The final showdown with the Dark Gods was so awesome. That one line of "Odin has rendered evil obsolete." just gets me every time I read the story. What Odin does to the bad guys is so awesome they can't show it. It is only a blast of light. Like a boss.
Anticitizen One
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I'm pretty sure that was a bogus rumor
If Fox has the rights to that version of Nova does that prevent Marvel from using other versions of the character?
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It's a completely different character, just the same name. (Confusing I know). It's not an issue either way as it is listed in the agreement like that exactly (with the name Frankie Raye). So it is just her specifically.
The "Nova" FOX can use (that no one cares about):
The badass Nova that is a huge part of cosmic Marvel and will likely be in the MCU:
PhoncipleBone
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I agree. Streamlines it with less characters from so many different things, but keeps the villain a huge threat. I wonder if they did it if they would even drag in Ronan the Accuser or Quasar.
canadian crowe
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So now that Daredevil is back with Marvel, do you think we'll be getting a movie in phase 3?
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I think they would definitely use Quasar since that also would set up the ability to use Phyla in a future movie and what happens with him is a major character builder for Richard Rider. Plus the Quantum Bands are a big part of Annihilus' power in the final fight. Ronan they could probably go without and since they are introducing Gamora in GotG they will probably radically change her story anyways (which basically removes most of the Ronan part of Annihilation). Streamlining the movie around being Nova's movie really is the right way to go since he was the main character for the main story anyways. Throw in the GotG in the third act and it can make for a really strong film.
No. Marvel is solely focused on Avengers and Cosmic (if GotG does well) at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a film post-phase 3 though or showed up on TV.
Anticitizen One
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Doubtful. It will be after Phase 3 at the earliest. He may even show up in a Marvel TV show first.
PhoncipleBone
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If GotG takes off, we will definitely see Nova in a sequel. He is too popular with the fans not to use him.
demosthenes
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Which leads me to believe there has to be some tie in to the current roster Cap/Thor/Iron Man/Avengers something
Or he should get his own movie, but I think this is probably more logical.
I think Nova sonning Iron Man would be cool for Avengers 2/3, and he'll just leave them to battle alone out of frustration or something.
Apparently it's completely standalone with possibly only a joking reference to the Avengers but no more. They stress that they're on the other side of the galaxy and could care less about Earth.
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Yes and they basically have to use Annihilation if they want to give him his "origin story" to becoming Nova Prime (pre-Annihilation Richard is completely different and not the cool character we all want, it is that specific event that makes him the great hero he is). That is why I am pretty excited/hopeful that Annihilation on the big screen could actually happen. There have been hints that the Nova Corps as a concept will be present in GotG as well, so the audience would be able to relate to the loss if it happens in the follow up.
No. They said there won't be. It will have the Marvel logo and perhaps "from the makers of [other mcu movies]" and that will be it. It's a space epic, they should be able to market it well enough. Thanos will almost certainly be the only "crossover" character.
I agree, and that is essentially what Annihilation would be (primarily).
Shit! I completely forgot about that! It's practically the coolest thing in the whole story:
Then I feel the movie will be doomed. Just my opionion and hope I am wrong but you already built something really good continue building off that.
I think it's the toughest sell of all their movies, including Ant-Man, but I think Marvel is going for a direction where there isn't massive overlap, but moreover notions of coexistence. I think they want these movies to converge.
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Are other movies doomed just because they are original or starts of new franchises? What a ridiculous thing to say. This one even has the bonus of being able to use "part of the MCU" and things like that in its marketing. It can only help, not hurt it.
Continuing to build Avengers is great but eventually people will get sick of just The Avengers and Marvel knows that. That is why they are pushing GotG as something that can set off on its own and run as an essentially separate franchise that is yet still tied into the same Universe. It is the next step to the entire MCU plan. Merge all these franchises into one epic movie (Avengers). Now run another giant franchise next to that giant franchise. Fear of Avengers-burnout is also probably why we are getting (from all accounts) at least three "new" (though still Avengers-related) franchises in Phase 3 rather than just one (GotG) in Phase 2.
Random chance instances aside, nothing good ever happens unless risks are taken. GotG is a huge risk but I really believe it has little chance of failure with the right marketing behind it. I just cannot understand the "already built something good so just keep doing that" mentality. We wouldn't have even gotten Avengers with that mentality, just Iron Man movies.
Choppasmith
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I'm still hoping it does well enough to make a new animated series, they could even actually use the likes of Silver Surfer, Galactus, and the like.
The Anti-Monitor
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Rewatching Iron Man 2....
God DAMN was Black Widow hot in this movie.
God DAMN was Black Widow hot in this movie.
IKR!!?!?!?! The long hair was much better then her cut in Avengers.
Ok, new question guys, Civil War idea didn't seem to go over well with most people here.
What about, doing something along the lines of the Armor Wars? Obviously this would be an Iron Man thing, but a multi part armor wars could be pretty cool.
On a previous rewatch (last year?) I found it boring. I watched it again over the weekend and it was actually quite enjoyable.
Ignis Fatuus
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On the contrary I think the only way to keep this whole thing fresh is to try new genres, new approaches, new franchises that can stand on their own. Space opera is back in vogue, GotG will do fine.
Iron Man 2 was a wig; Avengers was her real hair.
What? Really? I could have sworn that Faveru talks about her in the commentary but it's been awhile.
Exterminieren
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I wonder if the Marvel guys had any idea that the Disney/LucasArts deal was in the works?
Releasing a GotG movie the year before Star Wars Episode VII hits, with hype starting to build, seems like a very solid plan. Give people a bit of space opera to whet the appetite.
Releasing a GotG movie the year before Star Wars Episode VII hits, with hype starting to build, seems like a very solid plan. Give people a bit of space opera to whet the appetite.
TangoAlphaLima
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Jason Aaron's current run on Thor: God of Thunder is pretty awesome. The first story arc, "The God Butcher," just ended with issue #5. Issue #6 was a standalone (and really isn't very good), and the next arc just started with issue #7. Definitely worth checking out.
Ew, anything is better than that menstrual spaghetti wig.
I never watched any of the commentary for our films. One day I will.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Auron_Kale
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Oh hell naw, the shorter hair in the Avengers was way better. I liked her overall look in the Avengers more than in IM2 though the longer hair was more suited to her undercover role.
Still, I'm not totally crazy about her hair in CA2 right now...
Razgriz-Specter
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Agree.
I thought she looked better in IM2. Especially in the boxing ring with Happy. Such a babe.
Auron_Kale
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That was good, though again she was 'undercover' as Natalie Rushman, so I didn't mind her long hair then. It was when she was BW with the long hair...eh, didn't do much for me. Her shorter hair in Avengers worked better for me overall.
I found her really attractive when she was just dressed in jeans and a jacket, though granted, I think she had better clothes in Avengers too.
That scene where she steps into the "ring" with Tony and there is the silence. That, for me, goes down as classic cinema moment. Such a beauty, up there with Lauren Bacall, Elizabeth Taylor, Ingrid Bergman ect. She's got the classic look from the 40s and 50s and it sings to me.
What scene are you talking about?
thecouncil
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here. you guys need these comparison photos:
Hot Coldman
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She looked so much hotter in Avengers, this isn't even a debate
Auron_Kale
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*brofist* Seriously. Loved her look so much more in Avengers.
StalkerUKCG
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If Marvel had the rights I'd love a AvX storyline. Not like the actually event but something involving all those characters on the big screen would be really amazing.