PhoncipleBone
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Telling ya, Cap will wield Thor's hammer in Avengers 2.
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Telling ya, Cap will wield Thor's hammer in Avengers 2.
That seems like more of an Avengers 3 climax thing.
Yeah. We need to see more people unable to lift it first. That will really sell it to the audience when cap does lift it.
PhoncipleBone
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And what better moment to lift it than to kick Thanos's ass from here to over there.
Whenever they do it, and if Whedon stays on board it WILL happen, it will be a HUGE audience moment.
Escape Goat
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Hot Coldman
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Dumb question: can Odin lift Mjolnir?
In the movies, yes. He was the one who placed the enchantment and then threw it to Earth.
No idea about the comics, but I assume so.
Yes. He picks it up in the movie when he banishes Thor to Earth.
If Disney is smart, they'll shoot Avengers 2 & 3 similarly like they did with Pirates 2 & 3. But then again, it would break up their marketing plan of having films build up to an Avengers flick.
I do think it would be great to shoot 2 & 3 back-to-back and introduce new Avengers ala the Fellowship of the Ring type of way and then have them splinter off until the end of Avengers 3 where the teams unite for the big battle. This scenario only works out if they have 2 bridge into 3.
Hulk/Iron Man/Wasp
Captain America/Thor/Hawkeye
Widow/Ant-Man/Black Panther or Doctor Strange or Vision
It's a dream scenario -- shooting back-to-back -- and the new Avengers that are added can be swapped out with your favorite Avengers.
Hot Coldman
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Knew it was a dumb one, I totally forgot that scene. Cheers lads
SilentProtagonist
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Dunno if this has been mentioned or not but I think Liam Neeson would make a good Dr. Strange. With a dyed beared/hair.
SilentProtagonist
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It could be retconned (or rather just reimagined) as him being able to tap into cosmic energy from alternate dimensions/worlds.
And he has an encyclopedic knowledge of ancient powerful civilizations (like the asgardians and frost giants).
Thor buster armor
I've seen people post this alot, but didn't this fail? I thought both Thor Buster and Hulk Buster ended up only busted and Tony wondering how to actually make them work.
Callibretto
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I imagine guardians will mainly be thanos movie and show how dangerous he is, at theend some survivor from guardians go to earth and warn avengers. It will lead directly to avengers 2
PhoncipleBone
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Hint to Tony: It will NEVER work. Especially Hulk Buster.
crimsonspider89
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Well rumor has it the Extremis is coming in IM3. So get prepared, ready for one of the most badass suits ever.
And for Thor he would have to basically tap in to cosmic energy of some kind. Thor doesn't really get tired.
Like a boss. Thor came at him with it, and made it so Thor couldn't lift it. Then he took it from Thor.
DrForester
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TDLink
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As others mentioned, you obviously haven't seen The Empire Strikes back. Using a second film in a trilogy (or second act of a 3 act story) as the heroes' low point is not unheard of and is actually typically effective in storytelling. People expect the Avengers to win every time because they are the good guys. By defying expectation, even once, you completely throw the formula off balance and get people even further invested in how the matter will be resolved. Besides, Thanos -is- the most powerful enemy they could throw at them (basically, anyways) it would only make sense for him to actually be victorious the first time around...especially since Thanos has "won" multiple times int he comics as well. If anything it would be keeping in character and it will only make when they -do- defeat him more satisfying. I can honestly see Thanos being the "main" badguy in the MCU from here on out...that includes in A2, GotG, and A3.
My point isn't null. You are right that no director has been confirmed for Cap 2 yet but there -is- a script and some actors -are- signed on already. Plus there is a solid release date already locked in for it. Cap 2's cast list has not been fully announced yet but that is because casting isn't complete. Thor 2 is the exact same way at the moment. Ant-Man also has a script and director attached but nothing further. Last we heard Doctor Strange has a rough script. GotG, as far as we know, has no script, no director, no actors, and no release date. It is a completely different matter than Cap 2, Doc Strange, or Ant-Man.
It depends largely on what GotG is. If it is an adaptation of Annihilation or Annihilation Conquest then that won't happen (in fact he is only in one of those...and the actual Guardians are in the other....but I can see them branding both as "GotG" for a trilogy of -that- franchise, then using Thanos Imperative as the last film). If however GotG is a new story simply utilizing the characters (which I am also all for) then anything can happen. I do highly doubt though that GotG will be used to set up Avengers. Maybe the other way around or just completely disconnected other than possibly Thanos being in both. Either way though the GotG are supposed to be more powerful than the Avengers collectively so it doesn't really make much sense to have them being the ones losing to Thanos first. I could see a situation where both lose and then have to come together or something but it would be redundant probably to have Thanos win both times. Anyways, this is all just speculation at this point.
The bottom line is Thanos makes a great antagonist for the MCU as a whole and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in both GotG and Avengers, possibly with completely different stories. I still don't expect GotG to happen any time before A2 is out though.
Outside of Thanos (and potentially Ultron, if he somehow doesn't fit into the Ant-Man storyarc), what are the top 3 villains that are most wanted for Avengers follow-ups, should Thanos be a one-and-done baddie.
Mine would be:
1. Skrulls & Kree
2. Masters of Evil
3. Kang the Conqueror
I would love to see Sentry converted to a villain with his Void personality.
Mine would be:
1. Skrulls & Kree
2. Masters of Evil
3. Kang the Conqueror
I would love to see Sentry converted to a villain with his Void personality.
BigJonsson
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1. Thanos
2. Onslaught lol
3. MODOK
2. Onslaught lol
3. MODOK
Escape Goat
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The enchantments one weakness is gravity. Or lack of.
lol
This I don't understand why Red Hulk could do that.
The first pic you posted is actually the Hulk inside his own dreamworld. And Rulk can absorb people's powers, and it tricked the hammer into thinking it was Thor.
Can we just make the hulk movie be about the avengers fighting hulk?Maybe Enchantress is up in that game?
That's apparently what the original script for this one was, before Joss came in and completely rewrote it.
SilentProtagonist
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Yeah, that was also implied by this early quote from Jeremy Renner on Hawkeye:
Though as we know, this never actually happened in the movie.
Choppasmith
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So this is confirmed then? I keep seeing people mention this, but don't know if there's a legitimate source behind it or was just speculation. Pretty awesome if true. I remember reading an issue of Wizard. I always got a giggle from their fantasy movie casts and really liked the idea of Melina Kanakaredes as Wanda (it was the one that stuck out the most to me). Of course there's no way she'd play her now.
The latest episode of the Avengers cartoon had them. You should look it up.
Speedymanic
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This is what I was thinking, if he is the villain of A2 and they do take him down...who will be the big bad in A3?
Ultron will seem like a big step down in comparison to Thanos, maybe the MoE?
Apart from Galactus, which other villains rival Thanos in the power/intelligence, etc stakes?
catashtrophe
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What are the chances of ever seeing Apocalypse in a Marvel movie?
I want to see him bust some dudes up and cause chaos
I want to see him bust some dudes up and cause chaos
SilentProtagonist
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He's part of the X-men so... He'd be in an X-men movie not a Marvel Studios one.
It'd be great if he showed up in an X-men movie, but the X-men movies are so scattered in terms of consistency (in terms of quality/story/over-arching plots) that I dunno if they could pull it off.
Seeing Magneto fight alongside the X-men against apoc would amazing though.
Dog Problems
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I'd love to see MODOK but it seems unlikely. Then again, I never thought Thanos would appear in a move either.
Just how tied in to Guardians of the Galaxy is Thanos? Since it seems like the whole Thanos thing was an more of an idea than anything concrete in terms of future iterations/planning, i'm not sure how much it matters..
Runaways would arguably the best for the big screen, but that leaves no space epics.. really wonder what that 2014 slot is going to be.
Runaways would arguably the best for the big screen, but that leaves no space epics.. really wonder what that 2014 slot is going to be.
Speedymanic
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Silver Surfer. (or do they not own the rights to that either?)
As bad as the last FF movie was, it did a good job of SS and showing he has potential for his own movie.
Glass Rebel
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Uhm, if it was in FF it's probably in Fox' hands.
But don't worry, Marvel will get FF back and make a Doom origin story, mark my words.
it will never happen ;_;
Speedymanic
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billy beane
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What does Marvel not have the rights to other than Spider-Man, X-Men and the Fantastic Four? And how do they get any of those back? Someone explained it to me vaguely a few years back, so I don't really remember.
BamYouHaveAids
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I just read it and his suit looked the same or extremely close didn't it? Also am I reading that right and Ironman
can move at hundreds of miles per hour, regenerate, and basically have super human strength even without the suit?
Glass Rebel
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he isn't really without the suit when the suit is basically in his body 
But I doubt that they'll
turn Stark into a cyborg with "NANOTECHNOLOGY"
vferrel said:
They sold the licenses to Fox (X-Men & F4) and Sony (Spider-Man) who retain the rights as long as they can prove that a movie is in production. They can either buy the rights back, which won't happen because they're cash cows to Fox and Sony (except for F4 maybe), or they can wait until Fox or Sony magically forget for 5 years (I think) that they own these franchises, which won't happen either. It's a lost cause.
So what's the possibility that when Feige said two out of those four (Ant-Man, Runaways, Inhumans or Guardians) will be coming pre-A2, that Ant-Man isn't one of them? Is that even possible? I'm just worried that it is, and we'll get Runaways+GotG instead... I don't know, really hope Ant-Man makes it in time for the sequel but i'm becoming doubtful myself.. Also, wasn't a Runaways movie for 2012 cancelled before?
Glass Rebel
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Wright is afaik working on the last part of his trilogy with Pegg and Frost which releases early next year so that leaves him enough time to do Ant-Man. I dunno, him teasing it on twitter makes it almost a lock for 2014 I think.
You're probably right, two 'team' films leading up to the third (avengers) would seem excessive.
But if there's 3 movies in 2014, and one of them are CA2, one of them Ant-Man, and one of them a team and/or cosmic movie, i'm sure they won't be putting the team movie right before A2. That wouldn't make much sense.
Probably CA2, GotG or Runaways, Ant-Man, then Avengers 2.
But if there's 3 movies in 2014, and one of them are CA2, one of them Ant-Man, and one of them a team and/or cosmic movie, i'm sure they won't be putting the team movie right before A2. That wouldn't make much sense.
Probably CA2, GotG or Runaways, Ant-Man, then Avengers 2.
I was mulling this through my head yesterday............have we seen all the suits? Mk. VII was used in the Avengers, so this is just my guess:
Mk. I - Iron Man 1, cave suit
Mk. II - Iron Man 1, unpainted protoype
Mk. III - Iron Man 1, finished suit /w circular chestpiece
Mk. IV - Iron Man 2, finished suit /w triangular chestpiece
Mk. V - Iron Man 2, briefcase suit
Mk. VI - The Avengers, finished suit /w circular chestpiece
Mk. VII - The Avengers, deployment-in-air suit
Correct?
The Anti-Monitor
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Mk. IV looks virtually identical to Mk. III (circular chestpiece), and it's the one he's wearing at the beginning of Iron Man 2.
Mk. VI is the one with the triangular chestpiece in both Iron Man 2 and Avengers.
The only new one is Mk. VII, which is the one with circular chestpiece, is the one deployed in air.
All others are correct.