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From the Avengers thread:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0083SBMGW/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I've been holding off on getting the other films on blu-ray because I suspected they will do this. I am so going to get that. OH BOY !

I wonder how Disney was able to get the rights to make the boxset, considering Paramount and Universal owns the rights to the earlier MCU films. Or does Marvel/Disney now own them?

All Marvel Studios films are owned by Marvel. Paramount and Universal are just distributors. Paramount also distributed The Avengers.

 

[richiek]

All Marvel Studios films are owned by Marvel. Paramount and Universal are just distributors. Paramount also distributed The Avengers.

Actually, Disney distributed Avengers. Paramount is credited in name only.

 

[sharbhund]

Actually, Disney distributed Avengers. Paramount is credited in name only.

But Paramount will still be getting 8% of all the money Avengers earns on DVD. That's a pretty sweet deal for them.

 

[noah111]

You think Avengers or the MCU will ever go an X-Men Last Stand route and kill off a bunch of heroes? I'm talking way down the line, of course.

 

[Escape Goat]

You think Avengers or the MCU will ever go an X-Men Last Stand route and kill off a bunch of heroes? I'm talking way down the line, of course.

If its Joss Whedon then definitely. He likes to kill off people that fans like and plays in contrast to audience expectations.

 

[Dram]

I could see them killing a lot of minor characters, but none of the main money earners. Though I could see them killing off Nick Fury and having Maria Hill taker over Shield.

 

[Good Job Bob]

If its Joss Whedon then definitely. He likes to kill off people that fans like and plays in contrast to audience expectations.

Marvel runs the show, they'd never let Joss Whedon pull that shit unless they were planning it first.

 

[JdFoX187]

If its Joss Whedon then definitely. He likes to kill off people that fans like and plays in contrast to audience expectations.

I'm sure all of his stories have to be checked through Marvel first. There's no way they'll let him kill off major characters just for shocks.

 

[noah111]

Marvel runs the show, they'd never let Joss Whedon pull that shit unless they were planning it first.

This is true. We already know for a fact that it was Marvel's plan to kill Coulson and Whedon had nothing to do with that decision, essentially.

 

[Escape Goat]

I'm sure all of his stories have to be checked through Marvel first. There's no way they'll let him kill off major characters just for shocks.

I think that goes without saying for any licensed property.

 

[Anth0ny]

I've been holding off on getting the other films on blu-ray because I suspected they will do this. I am so going to get that. OH BOY !

Same. Very exciting.

 

[Good Job Bob]

This is true. We already know for a fact that it was Marvel's plan to kill Coulson and Whedon had nothing to do with that decision, essentially.

Which is just nuts to me but whatever.

I think that goes without saying for any licensed property.

It's especially true for Marvel Studios films though, they run a very very tight ship.

 

[KevinCow]

You think Avengers or the MCU will ever go an X-Men Last Stand route and kill off a bunch of heroes? I'm talking way down the line, of course.

I doubt it. They want this to be a long-term thing. If and when they kill off heroes, they're going to think about it really hard ahead of time, and I doubt they'll ever kill off a bunch at once.

X-Men Last Stand did it for shock value (or in the case of Cyclops, contractual bullshit) and didn't really consider the future implications of anything that they did. They depowered and killed so many characters that there wasn't really anywhere else to take the series, hence why they've done nothing but prequels since and will probably go for a full reboot before they do an actual X-Men 4.

If and when Marvel starts to kill off heroes, I hope they never fall into the crap comics have and start bringing characters back to life or retconning deaths, thus ruining any impact those character deaths would have. Instead of, "Oh shit he died!" it's, "Well is he really dead?" or, "Gee, I wonder how long until they bring him back to life."

Incidentally, X-Men Last Stand managed to also make the mistake of stupid retcons and ruining the concept of character death in the same movie, when Magneto seems to be getting his powers back at the end and Xavier somehow lives on in the post-credits scene.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

I wouldn't be surprised if some characters die eventually, but they'll probably do unlike the comics and have planned how they'll bring them back.

For example, if they eventually do Thanos, I could see them killing a big bunch of heroes but restoring them to life at the end with the Infinity Gauntlet. I wouldn't be surprised if, rather than doing Edgar Wright's original idea of two Ant-Man, have Pym, kill him in an Avengers sequel, then have Scott Lang take his place.

 

[Escape Goat]

If they kill somebody it ought to be because it serves the story and not just a cheap way to create shock or make the bad guy seem really powerful. This would only really work if you developed these characters over the course of the franchise where the death would mean something. Otherwise its on the level of fanfic.

 

[Cartman86]

I don't think we will know in any way what will happen with replacing RDJ until that day comes. The movies that come out right before he is replaced will decide it. They will help determine if they full on reboot (if the Marvel universe is in a dire place financially), replace the actor, or full on replace Tony Stark with a new character who just wears the suit.

I'm hoping before that day comes (and it will) we will get an aging Tony Stark on film.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

I doubt it. They want this to be a long-term thing. If and when they kill off heroes, they're going to think about it really hard ahead of time, and I doubt they'll ever kill off a bunch at once.

X-Men Last Stand did it for shock value (or in the case of Cyclops, contractual bullshit) and didn't really consider the future implications of anything that they did. They depowered and killed so many characters that there wasn't really anywhere else to take the series, hence why they've done nothing but prequels since and will probably go for a full reboot before they do an actual X-Men 4.

If and when Marvel starts to kill off heroes, I hope they never fall into the crap comics have and start bringing characters back to life or retconning deaths, thus ruining any impact those character deaths would have. Instead of, "Oh shit he died!" it's, "Well is he really dead?" or, "Gee, I wonder how long until they bring him back to life."

Incidentally, X-Men Last Stand managed to also make the mistake of stupid retcons and ruining the concept of character death in the same movie, when Magneto seems to be getting his powers back at the end and Xavier somehow lives on in the post-credits scene.

fuck what they did to 'Psylocke'

 

[Slayven]

fuck what they did to 'Psylocke'

LoL I wonder if I am the only person that remembers that she is British.

 

[richiek]

New on set photo from Iron Man 3:

All the IM armors from Mark I to Mark VII, HNNNNGH.

 

[Cartman86]

New on set photo from Iron Man 3:

All the IM armors from Mark I to Mark VII, HNNNNGH.

Looks like they are shooting in and outside of Epic games.

Scenes were being shot inside and outside the Epic Games studios, where a large Christmas tree was set up on the front lawn.

Ahhhh shit. Christmas and Shane Black.

 

[Good Job Bob]

Christmas!?

 

[Lemonz]

Marvel's secret 2014 film revealed?

http://latino-review.com/2012/06/05/exclusive-standalone-marvel-movie-cap-takes-place-wakanda/

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

Holy shit, hype. So Black Panther and Ant-Man? Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes in live action here we go.

 

[WanderingWind]

Marvel's secret 2014 film revealed?

http://latino-review.com/2012/06/05/exclusive-standalone-marvel-movie-cap-takes-place-wakanda/

At the ferveret request of some of the posters on GAF, I looked into Black Panther's back stories. He didn't always suck! Hope they rip pages from his old stuff for the movie. Could be cool, and frankly it's time we had a non-white super hero representing this new age of superhero movies. Spawn is a little long in the tooth...

 

[Magnus]

fuck what they did to 'Psylocke'

This is supposed to be Psylocke on the right? Wtf

 

[ReiGun]

So hype for Panther.

Holy shit, hype. So Black Panther and Ant-Man? Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes in live action here we go.

Believe.

 

[KingDirk]

What does this mean for Ant-Man? Is Avengers confirmed for 2015, or could both movies come before it?

 

[Good Job Bob]

What does this mean for Ant-Man? Is Avengers confirmed for 2015, or could both movies come before it?

Edgar said he plans on shooting this year, so maybe it'll release next year? Feige said it is possible they might do 3 movies in a year if it's necessary.

 

[Blader]

What does this mean for Ant-Man? Is Avengers confirmed for 2015, or could both movies come before it?

2014 most likely. Hasn't been slated for a specific date yet because Marvel hasn't been rushing Wright.

 

[shira]

More interested in that new. Xmen first class sequel possible title
Old wolverine is best wolverine

 

[Good Job Bob]

More interested in that new. Xmen first class sequel possible title
Old wolverine is best wolverine

Marvel Studios properties only.

 

[noah111]

Hmmm, then why did Feige say that two of the four movies (Ant-Man, Guardians, Inhumans, Runaways) would be talked about in the coming weeks, i.e. coming very soon?

I'd take Black Panther over Runaways/Guardians/Inhumans any day, though.

 

[adg1034]

Joe and Anthony Russo (Community) are all but confirmed as directors for Captain America 2.

The Russos beat out George Nolfi, the Bourne Ultimatum writer who made his directorial debut with The Adjustment Bureau. The bake-off lasted the better part of a month, with the contenders forced to study The Avengers as part of their exam. F. Gary Gray also was an early contender.

...

Marvel had no comment on the negotiations.

 

[Good Job Bob]

...lol.

 

[Salsa]

the fact that they name that collection "phase one" has me all giddy

 

[Caboose]

They must have FLOORED Feige with their pitch or something, what a left field choice that is.

 

[Good Job Bob]

They must have FLOORED Feige with their pitch or something, what a left field choice that is.

Marvel's really not interested in any real creative direction (Joss Whedon, Shane Black and Edgar Wright/Joe Cornish are the exception), getting two small time directors like that basically means you can expect to be able to boss them around accordingly while they produce something totally by-the-numbers and generic.

Really not holding out hope for Thor 2 and Captain America 2 being anything beyond their predecessors. Ant-Man and IM3 should be great. Hopefully they put some good creative talent and vision behind Black Panther considering it's quite an unusual tale for a superhero movie.

 

[Caboose]

Marvel's really not interested in any real creative direction (Joss Whedon, Shane Black and Edgar Wright/Joe Cornish are the exception), getting two small time directors like that basically means you can expect to be able to boss them around accordingly while they produce something totally by-the-numbers and generic.

Really not holding out hope for Thor 2 and Captain America 2 being anything beyond their predecessors. Ant-Man and IM3 should be great. Hopefully they put some good creative talent and vision behind Black Panther considering it's quite an unusual tale for a superhero movie.

I thought Branagh had some creative direction too, no? All those Dutch angles and father and son, kings and princes scenes?

 

[X05]

New on set photo from Iron Man 3:

All the IM armors from Mark I to Mark VII, HNNNNGH.

Wait, why is the Mark II there?

 

[Escape Goat]

God, X-Men 3 was ass. Its like a turd dipped in 90s cheese and allowed to bake in the blistering sun all day.

 

[Manmademan]

Wait, why is the Mark II there?

rebuilt for posterity? wouldn't be the first time

 

[anonymous_abc]

Marvel's really not interested in any real creative direction (Joss Whedon, Shane Black and Edgar Wright/Joe Cornish are the exception), getting two small time directors like that basically means you can expect to be able to boss them around accordingly while they produce something totally by-the-numbers and generic.

Really not holding out hope for Thor 2 and Captain America 2 being anything beyond their predecessors. Ant-Man and IM3 should be great. Hopefully they put some good creative talent and vision behind Black Panther considering it's quite an unusual tale for a superhero movie.

That are quite a few exceptions to your rule there

 

[noah111]

God, X-Men 3 was ass. Its like a turd dipped in 90s cheese and allowed to bake in the blistering sun all day.

It was actually my favorite of the three. Not that that's saying much.

 

[Beth Cyra]

God, X-Men 3 was ass. Its like a turd dipped in 90s cheese and allowed to bake in the blistering sun all day.

Wasn't as good as X2, but I do think that outside of Juggs that X3 gets more hate then it needs.

Wolverine was awkward as a leader, but really that is a good thing in my mind as Wolverine shouldn't be leading, even more when it's Wolverine leading the younger team. Plus the scene with Magneto and Pyro when Pyro talks down about Xavier is easily my favorite in any X movie period.

 

[Dilly]

Black Panther and Ant-man? Is Marvel going to release a movie every 3 months or something?

 

[duckroll]

I don't agree with what Bob says, although I totally agree with where he's coming from. Marvel Studios does give creative freedom to their directors, but it is creative freedom in a framework which Marvel controls tightly.

They approach it much like how they approach comics, where individual artists and writers are free to come up with good ideas and to inject their own personal styles into the designs and the narrative flow they're working on, but at the same time they have to stay consistent to the overall Marvel Universe, and there are specific requests made include or exclude certain elements as Marvel sees fit for the given story of a movie.

What this means is that some directors who are more familiar with working within frameworks like this will be more capable of flexing their creative muscles than others who are not. It's also possible that some directors sign on to such projects without wanting to do anything particular creative of their own on the movie, just cashing a paycheck.

I do not agree for a moment that if a director has something creative to contribute to a project in a good way, that Marvel Studios will actually work against him and just want him to "follow instructions" instead. A lot of it is about how you collaborate, and some people are better at doing it than others. If Marvel really wants nothing but yes-man directors, there are a lot more choices for them. Instead they have been more actively looking for directors who in fact fit the tone of the movies they are looking to make.

Thor and Captain America are actually great examples where the directors they picked were selected to bring a specific creative style to the movies which both directors had done before, but within the framework of the Marvel Universe.

 

[Good Job Bob]

I do not agree for a moment that if a director has something creative to contribute to a project in a good way, that Marvel Studios will actually work against him and just want him to "follow instructions" instead.

Except this has already happened: See Jon Favreau's fall out with Marvel during the filming of Iron Man 2.

 

[Blader]

Except this has already happened: See Jon Favreau's fall out with Marvel during the filming of Iron Man 2.

There was no falling out, Favreau would have returned for IM3. It just came down to money. Marvel didn't want to pay him (they'd already resisted the raise they gave him for IM2) and Disney offered him a better deal for Magic Kingdom.

 

[Tobor]

I don't agree with what Bob says, although I totally agree with where he's coming from. Marvel Studios does give creative freedom to their directors, but it is creative freedom in a framework which Marvel controls tightly.

They approach it much like how they approach comics, where individual artists and writers are free to come up with good ideas and to inject their own personal styles into the designs and the narrative flow they're working on, but at the same time they have to stay consistent to the overall Marvel Universe, and there are specific requests made include or exclude certain elements as Marvel sees fit for the given story of a movie.

What this means is that some directors who are more familiar with working within frameworks like this will be more capable of flexing their creative muscles than others who are not. It's also possible that some directors sign on to such projects without wanting to do anything particular creative of their own on the movie, just cashing a paycheck.

I do not agree for a moment that if a director has something creative to contribute to a project in a good way, that Marvel Studios will actually work against him and just want him to "follow instructions" instead. A lot of it is about how you collaborate, and some people are better at doing it than others. If Marvel really wants nothing but yes-man directors, there are a lot more choices for them. Instead they have been more actively looking for directors who in fact fit the tone of the movies they are looking to make.

Thor and Captain America are actually great examples where the directors they picked were selected to bring a specific creative style to the movies which both directors had done before, but within the framework of the Marvel Universe.

Exactly. Well said.

 

[Good Job Bob]

There was no falling out, Favreau would have returned for IM3. It just came down to money. Marvel didn't want to pay him (they'd already resisted the raise they gave him for IM2) and Disney offered him a better deal for Magic Kingdom.

Our source says Iron Man 2 wasn’t the movie Jon Favreau wanted to make. Marvel interfered heavily with his work on the movie and turned the project into an infomercial for The Avengers. Favreau felt the movie was rushed into production (and if you followed the development process you know it was) and they pushed him into making it without a fully realized script. Iron Man 2 wasn’t the movie he wanted to make and because of that, if there’s an Iron Man 3, there’s every reason to think he won’t be back. Marvel doesn’t want to pay him and Favreau may not want to deal with more Marvel interference.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-...Favreau-s-Relationship-With-Marvel-20003.html