That is a bit harsh. Blame Marvel for selling them to them permanently if you have to blame anyone. Fox/Sony are just doing what any studio with a popular franchise would do.Fuck em thenI hope both companies burn to hell. Amazing Spider-Man looks awful.
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Marvel Cinematic Universe |OT| Discussion on released and future projects (spoilers)
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Glass Rebel
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I'm not blaming them, it's Marvel's fault for working out such a stupid contract but I certainly don't like what they're doing with the franchises. As a Spider-Man and X-Men fan I'd rather have Marvel handle them.
Well Fox (mostly Bryan Singer and his influence over xmen 1, 2, and first class) did something I doubt Disnet would have had the balls to do which is heavily emphasize the X-men's connection to the civil rights movement (and now gay rights movement). Which is something that was sadly lost in the comics in the post-Stan Lee era. That is something I always loved about the original X-Men run, it is so different than the rest of silver age Marvel in how openly of political statement it was. A lot of that was lost with Claremont & on though.
I couldn't see Disney letting that become a focus of the X-Men films as Bryan Singer wisely latched onto, since that is what set X-Men apart from other super heroes initially.
I couldn't see Disney letting that become a focus of the X-Men films as Bryan Singer wisely latched onto, since that is what set X-Men apart from other super heroes initially.
Amen. Someone understands.
Glass Rebel
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I'm not American so I wouldn't know how important that is
I just know that except for X2 and Spider-Man 2 I haven't really liked anything from either studio but I've heard great things about First Class. Aesthetics, atmosphere and casting are severly lacking IMO and just not something I want out of X-Men or Spider-Man. And don't even get me started on Fantastic Four and the awful Doom they had.
I just know that except for X2 and Spider-Man 2 I haven't really liked anything from either studio but I've heard great things about First Class. Aesthetics, atmosphere and casting are severly lacking IMO and just not something I want out of X-Men or Spider-Man. And don't even get me started on Fantastic Four and the awful Doom they had.
they should totally do this. the banner/stark bromance was a good idea - hopefully they expand on that a little. maybe throw a nod to banner helping create the hulkbuster armor or something.
Callibretto
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with Thanos gonna be the next villain, I wonder if he'll show up in large capacity in one of the solo movies. just like Loki had Thor movie to tell his origin/back story. I think Thanos will also need 1 where they'll show his backstory too. so in Avengers 2, he can just act as the bad guy in full capacity and not waste time telling his backstory, why he does thing etc.
earlier in this thread someone said they may make guardians of the galaxy movie, no idea about this team so I just wiki them and one of their story deals with Thanos. seems kinda neat if this movie is setup to show Thanos backstory and there's stuff like Nova and Mar Vell to in that wiki article about Thanos Imperative. probably would be a much needed help for Avenger when they have to fight Thanos.
earlier in this thread someone said they may make guardians of the galaxy movie, no idea about this team so I just wiki them and one of their story deals with Thanos. seems kinda neat if this movie is setup to show Thanos backstory and there's stuff like Nova and Mar Vell to in that wiki article about Thanos Imperative. probably would be a much needed help for Avenger when they have to fight Thanos.
How much trouble legally would Marvel be in if they tryed to make a Squadron Supreme movie, or at least feature them in a Avengers movie?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squadron_Supreme
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squadron_Supreme
TDLink
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While I definitely think Fox and Sony will never part with the X-men and Spider-man properties. I Could easily see them letting Marvel use specific characters from those franchises...for a high price on a film by film basis. I also -could- see them parting with the other properties they currently have (Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four, and Daredevil). They are definitely at least trying to keep even those for now with the reboot attempts they are planning but I bet for the right price they would give them back. Fantastic Four especially would be a huge get for Marvel even if they can never have Spidey or the X-men again.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Since Enchantress is dead-fucking-set to appear in the Marvel Universe sooner or later, we need to ponder... Classic or Son of Asgard look?
Hot Coldman
Banned
More skin please. She's supposed to be a seductress, no point in playing down her sex factor.
Question is, who would be a good choice to play her.
Question is, who would be a good choice to play her.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
If marvel hadn't sold them, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Cause Marvel would no longer exist.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
And apparently expecting a kid in the next few weeks.
SmellyHands
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Besides the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, I wonder if Marvel has the rights to use the Shi'ar Empire. Would there be a similar deal in place to share. It doesn't look like they're afraid to use cosmic characters like Thanos, so it wouldn't be out of the question for them to ever show up in the future. I imagine the Kree are okay if the Skrull are okay, but the Shi'ar are more closely associated with the X-Men. I'd like to see Gladiator fight the Hulk on the big screen someday.
Definitely need the head piece, imo. There's no need for a super-sexified icon on screen right now, especially in a Thor movie of all places. I want something akin to this;
Hot Coldman
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Oh, yeah, the headpiece is necessary.
Hot Coldman
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Probably because he's spent the last few months prior falling through space?
Probably due to what he actually had to do and go through to materialize on earth, I think.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Which was exactly? For that matter what happened from the end of Thor to the beginning of The Avengers with Loki?
Loki falls through space, and is picked up by the Chitauri, who make the deal with him.
Basically what Tobor said, I reckon.
Also, is the Staff that Thanos gives him in the comics in any way? I'm not sure on the specific of what that is.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Huh, seems so random, but it's just as logical as anything else. Reminds of that Futurama episode a little then.
echoshifting
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They'll have plenty of time to set up Thanos in Avengers 2; I doubt we will have more than a cameo or two leading up to the sequel. Keep in mind that they spent most of the first half of Avengers establishing the team and bringing them together. They don't need to do that in Avengers 2.
It's possible the Chitauri(and Thanos) were monitoring events on Earth and Asgard and sought Loki out after his "expulsion".
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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That would work a lot better and not require too much mental gymnastics.
Doubtful, they spoke about the tesseract as if it was just discovered to be on earth, due to it's activation of course. Thor eludes to the other realms/civilizations now knowing about earth because of this as well.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Speaking of Thor with the Rainbow Bridge being broken how did he get back so he could Executive Decision the transport plane on Earth?
The Broken Ska Record
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Odin summoned him there with Dark Energy, or something.
Odin did it by "harnessing dark energy".
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Yeah, I recalled that, but I couldn't understand what made that so special that it couldn't sub for the bridge in the first place.
So throwaway line to fix Thor plot problem?
TheDiabolical
I didn't read my own avatar and now everyone knows I'm not too bright. :(
what characters are actually included in the X-Men deal that Fox has?
since Cable wasn't part of it. could they pull off a New Mutants/X-Force movie with the characters not included?
since Cable wasn't part of it. could they pull off a New Mutants/X-Force movie with the characters not included?
Well, if you recall, there are ways other than the Bifrost. Loki knows how to do it, as seen in Thor. It stands to reason Odin would know a trick or two as well, being the Allfather and all.
Speedymanic
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Q. What is IM armor made of? It took a crazy pounding from Thor, but hardly looked damaged.
Hot Coldman
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Q. What is IM armor made of? It took a crazy pounding from Thor, but hardly looked damaged.
It's plot armour.
Pretty much, yeah. Thor 2 will cover the bifrost bridge in more detail so we'll know more then, I imagine.
Speedymanic
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You wonderful bastard. I look an absolute loon thanks to you. LOL.
Gamer @ Heart
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When they wrote Thor, they knew it was all leading back to the avengers, so I doubt they considered it much of a plot hole. The situation made it so that the only way he could get back was with the cube so it was added motivation the the cause.
This may be me just reading too much into things, but what I got from the scene with Loki and the Chitauri leader was that the Chitauri were torturing him somehow, which is maybe how they got the information about the tesseract from him.
Just the way Loki recoiled from the Chitauri's touch at first and how he looked like he was in pain at the end of that scene made it seem like something shady was going on in the interim. Like he had a level of fear of the Chitauri that isn't entirely explained by what we have seen of them.
But as people have mentioned, there are plenty of reasons for him to look a little worse for wear at the beginning, after being kicked out into space and being in exile for however long, etc.
TDLink
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Yes they do. Marvel has the rights to all of the cosmic stuff with the two exceptions of Galactus and The Silver Surfer. Anything else is fair game.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Actually I didn't remember that, so that helps a lot. lol
Hopefully
So it was a one way trip, unless he gets the cube back, Thor is boned?
Skrulls are a no-go, right?
I could have sworn I saw pics on here of him dating some hideous girl.
Hot Coldman
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Skrulls are shared between FOX and Marvel. Both companies can use them.
Ignis Fatuus
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Marvel was almost bankrupt when they made those deals, they made them because they didn't have a choice.
I think Marvel can't use Super-Skrull though.