Marvel was almost bankrupt when they made those deals, they made them because they didn't have a choice.
I think Marvel can't use Super-Skrull though.
I can only think of 5 (well 6) characters that could 'join' the Avengers (adding a different personality and weight to the cast) and work on separate movies:
Spiderman (not Marvel...)
Wolverine (not Marvel...)
Yellowjacket and Wasp (in pre production)
Namor
Vision
If Yellowjacket gets greenlit and Wright owns it, I'd say between it and Ironman 3, Vision would be a given too.
Now, for the actors for each character...
nope. Namor doesn't allow himself to be tied into other properties.
Namor isn't tied up with either the X-men or Fantastic Four properties?
I can only think of 5 (well 6) characters that could 'join' the Avengers (adding a different personality and weight to the cast) and work on separate movies:
Spiderman (not Marvel...)
Wolverine (not Marvel...)
Yellowjacket and Wasp (in pre production)
Namor
Vision
If Yellowjacket gets greenlit and Wright owns it, I'd say between it and Ironman 3, Vision would be a given too.
Now, for the actors for each character...
Sharon Carter should be played by Hayley Atwell. They need to play up her resemblance to Peggy if they introduce her.
Anyway, she'd be in Cap 2, not Avengers 2.
She's terrible..Potential Actors for A2:
If Wasp was in this, would she be Asian like her Ultimate Universe incarnate? If so, who would she be played by?
Wasp if she's white: Aleksa Palladino
Sharon Carter: January Jones
& Pym should be played by Shea Whigham
BP should be Damion Poitier or Idris Elba
Falcon should be played by Terrence Howard
She-hulk: Cheryl Cole honestly.
Moon Knight: Michael Stuhlbarg
Yes I'm a fan of Boardwalk Empire
I feel like Doctor Strange, and everybody related to Ultron: Scarlet & Quicksilver, wonder man & vision can't exist till A3.
I think that'd be too creepy. Dating his ex's daughter is already weird, but if they look exactly alike I think it becomes way too much.
I've been thinking an Ant-Man film could work as a take on Die Hard. Have Pym be a scientist developing the pym particle stuff and the ant man suit in his lab with Jan as his assistant, then the facility is taken over by terrorists, so Pym and Jan jury rig Pym's lab experiments together into gadgets and suits in order to save everyone in the building, stop the terrorists and escape.
I feel like that really shows off the strong suits of Ant-Man, being a scientist who works through problems with clever tactics and invention rather than super powers and force.
I could see that. Everything else, not so much. I get the feeling that we'll only be getting one new character introduced (or two if you count Wasp) by the time Avengers 2 hits. Everyone keeps listing off super heroes, but they just wouldn't fit. You need the essentials, not the baggage. IM2 has had a reference to BP, Thor had a reference to Pym, so to me, those are the most likely at this point..Potential Actors for A2:
If Wasp was in this, would she be Asian like her Ultimate Universe incarnate? If so, who would she be played by?
Wasp if she's white: Aleksa Palladino
Sharon Carter: January Jones
& Pym should be played by Shea Whigham
BP should be Damion Poitier or Idris Elba
Falcon should be played by Terrence Howard
She-hulk: Cheryl Cole honestly.
Moon Knight: Michael Stuhlbarg
Yes I'm a fan of Boardwalk Empire
I feel like Doctor Strange, and everybody related to Ultron: Scarlet & Quicksilver, wonder man & vision can't exist till A3.
I don't recall the IM2 reference to Black Panther..I could see that. Everything else, not so much. I get the feeling that we'll only be getting one new character introduced (or two if you count Wasp) by the time Avengers 2 hits. Everyone keeps listing off super heroes, but they just wouldn't fit. You need the essentials, not the baggage. IM2 has had a reference to BP, Thor had a reference to Pym, so to me, those are the most likely at this point..
Bleh, the women cannot act.Potential Actors for A2:
Sharon Carter: January Jones
He can play whoever he wants. Shit he can be the first black Hulk for all I care!BP should be Damion Poitier or Idris Elba
Incredibly boring actor.Falcon should be played by Terrence Howard
All I can think of, with fucking terror and horror in my mind, is whose playing her now.She-hulk: Cheryl Cole honestly.
Seems like too much of an anti-climactic way to reveal his origins... they need something bigger than that, something deeper. Ant-Man is going to be an uphill battle getting the audience to like it, tbh.Been thinking a lot about the Ant-Man movie lately. Gonna quote my idea from the Avengers thread:
I think by the time he'd be in the Avengers he'd be a bit more "superheroish", combining elements of Yellojacket with Ant-Man. He'd have wings and some ray guns, but then also a Batman-esque array of gadgets. With Wasp however, I'm not so sure how she would work in an ensemble film and put on par with the other characters.
Falcon should be played by Terrence Howard
A winner is you.I never thought of this before but....
YES PLEASE.
That fool burned his bridges with Marvel Studios, they aren't bringing him back.
A winner is you.
Seriously though ... imagine some of the banter between him and RDJ. That would be incredible.
Not really a reference as it was an easter egg, but when Tony is in a SHIELD room, they're showing footage of the Hulk incident at the university (from TIH) and a map with a bunch of blips on it.I don't recall the IM2 reference to Black Panther..
I never got the story of why he was recast, just figured it was because the other guy was a better actor..That fool burned his bridges with Marvel Studios, they aren't bringing him back.
Sharon Carter: January Jones
BP should be Damion Poitier or Idris Elba
Falcon should be played by Terrence Howard
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I could see it so well. PLUS Whedon has a lot of history with Fillion, obviously.
Not really a reference as it was an easter egg, but when Tony is in a SHIELD room, they're showing footage of the Hulk incident at the university (from TIH) and a map with a bunch of blips on it.
Among references to locals that have to do with CA and Thor, there's also one in Africa (Wakanda iirc, where BP is located). This has been confirmed, btw.
There even seems to be a reference to Namor on the map.. but who knows.
[edit] here's the specific shot..
I never got the story of why he was recast, just figured it was because the other guy was a better actor..
That's New Mexico (Thor) and Malibu (Stark). The Europe one is in reference to the WW and Cap's involvement. That blip is where parts of CA takes place..So who is in Arizona and LA? London, Captain Britian?
And if I am looking at it right who the hell is in Greenland?
I never got the story of why he was recast, just figured it was because the other guy was a better actor..
Hollywood insiders believe the exit stems from Terrence Howard's difficult behavior on the set of Iron Man. But those with intimate knowledge of the situation suggest a far more dramatic backstory: Howard was the first actor signed to the film and, on top of that, was the highest-paid. That's right: more than Gwyneth Paltrow. More than Jeff Bridges. More than Robert Downey Jr. And once the project fully came together, it was too late to renegotiate his deal. It didn't help that, according to one source, Favreau and his producers were ultimately unhappy with Howard's performance, and spent a lot of time cutting and reshooting his scenes. (Favreau could not be reached for comment, while Howard's publicist says: ''Terrence had a tremendous experience working on Iron Man.'')
As such, when Favreau and screenwriter Justin Theroux went to map out the sequel they found themselves minimizing Howard's story line. Once Marvel learned that Favreau was thinking of curtailing the role, the studio went to the actor's agents with a new and drastically reduced offer a number that's similar to what supporting cast members were paid for the first movie. The agents, according to sources, were so taken aback by this new figure estimated at somewhere between a 50 and 80 percent pay cut that they questioned it. Why did they blanch? Multiple sources say that Marvel execs never told Howard's reps that they had issues with the star's on-set conduct. (Marvel would not comment for this story.)
It's unclear whether Howard's team walked away first, or if Marvel ended the discussion at that point. Either way, the studio moved quickly to secure Cheadle and the story leaked out the next morning, Oct. 14. And alas for Howard, there will be no next time.
That's New Mexico (Thor) and Malibu (Stark). The Europe one is in reference to the WW and Cap's involvement. That blip is where parts of CA takes place..
And i'm not sure about Greenland. I don't remember, but did Banner move there at the end of TIH?
Brahs I was trying to rent a unicycle and I over heard this guy saying that Squirrel Girl was going to be in th next Great Lakes Avengers film. I told him that wasn't right because she is a mutant and Fox owns her. What???
I feel like Ultron would be great for Avengers 3, but it's kind of hard to be a follow up to Thanos.Really wish they could get Dr. Doom for these movies. Feel like he woulda made a great slot for A2 so Thanos could have the big finish in 3.
So who is in Arizona and LA? London, Captain Britian?
And if I am looking at it right who the hell is in Greenland?
London? Man, you should spend less time on GAF and more time looking at maps.
The European marker is over Norway. I assume it's the location of the church where the Tesseract was found in Captain America.
Slow down. If they hadn't sold those franchises' movie rights, Marvel would likely have gone bankrupt.I'm not blaming them, it's Marvel's fault for working out such a stupid contract but I certainly don't like what they're doing with the franchises. As a Spider-Man and X-Men fan I'd rather have Marvel handle them.
Where's the Hulk pic in your avatar from?Slow down. If they hadn't sold those franchises' movie rights, Marvel would likely have gone bankrupt.
They were not in a position to dictate terms back then. Superhero movies were a dead species, and their company was about to join them. Yea, it's too bad they couldn't negotiate something better, but they still have about 150 other heroes, teams and hundreds of storylines to choose from. Shit, they may do so well, they can buy back the movie rights to those franchises.
But nobody is to blame. Comic industry was slow and their money fleeting.
Where's the Hulk pic in your avatar from?
It wasn't up to him, he got recasted.Why didn't Norton take the role of Hulk in the Avengers?
Not that I really missed him, Ruffalo fits better.
I just remembered that in CA1 it's in Norway that Red Skull locates the tesseract, so that's the European blip on that map. Norway is also affiliated with Norse mythology, etc.
Still not sure about the greenland/iceland marker, though. Also, I stumbled upon these infographics regarding the MCU characters and timelines, found them pretty helpful and awesome;
Dreams-Visions said:Slow down. If they hadn't sold those franchises' movie rights, Marvel would likely have gone bankrupt.
They were not in a position to dictate terms back then. Superhero movies were a dead species, and their company was about to join them. Yea, it's too bad they couldn't negotiate something better, but they still have about 150 other heroes, teams and hundreds of storylines to choose from. Shit, they may do so well, they can buy back the movie rights to those franchises.
But nobody is to blame. Comic industry was slow and their money fleeting.
Why didn't Norton take the role of Hulk in the Avengers?
Not that I really missed him, Ruffalo fits better.
Damn, for some reason I totally had it in my mind that he crashed in antarctica instead of the arctic. So that explains all the points, except for the one in the atlantic, which i'm sure relates to the atlantians/namor..Isn't that where Cap crashed?
Seriously? Watching that thing come to life after seeing so many iterations of it in the comics, was awesome. I totally bought it, and believed it was real.Okay, I loved the Avengers, but no matter how much I try, my brain can't accept that the Helicarrier is even remotely possible, even if the US government, literally, spent a trillion dollars on the entire project, and brought the greatest scientists and engineers on board just to build and design it. Everytime I see, I keep saying "Yeah, that's fucking bullshit." A hundred thousand ton supercarrier that lifts itself from the water with four turbines?