DrROBschiz
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Season 2 of DD has the most crossover yet and they still havent crossed the most pivotal threshold yet...
Having the heroes actually meet
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Season 2 of DD has the most crossover yet and they still havent crossed the most pivotal threshold yet...
Having the heroes actually meet
My guess is Fury will have something to do with getting Hulk off Earth.
I would doubt it for contractual reasons. Would the other actors be happy being bit-parts in somebody else's series?
ratcliffja
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Well Luke Cage was a pivotal part of JJ S1, so we've at least had that crossover.
DrROBschiz
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True of course they did admit that her story would have been incomplete without him and thats kind of the case
Jest Chillin
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If it was a legitimate Defenders arc, they wouldn't be bit parts. And I don't see why they'd care if the pay was right and filming didn't conflict with other projects. It makes sense from the production side as well since Marvel/Netflix wouldn't have to source yet another crew, showrunner, etc...
Keeping all four individual shows going and then crossing them over in a fifth show is a lot of balls to juggle.
Glass Rebel
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Unless Marvel/Disney and Netflix renegotiate the original contract, Defenders is going to be a separate show. What happens after that is anybody's guess.
DrROBschiz
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I think they are doing a good job setting it up
Sure its very slow and subtle and mostly involves tertiary characters at this point but Im enjoying it
They did say they wanted to nail down all the individual stories first
Sure its very slow and subtle and mostly involves tertiary characters at this point but Im enjoying it
They did say they wanted to nail down all the individual stories first
I think, now more than ever, this is so important. Batman v. Superman highlighted the importance of build-up and establishing characters individually, rather than shoehorning in everything in one go - which is what ended up happening with that movie.
Jest Chillin
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I realize that was the plan but there also wasn't mention of renewals on DD or JJ in those contracts (Defenders was being estimated as being out this year at the earliest) so I think there's room for change if the powers that be feel it's a better way to go.
I'm just considering the difficulty they've had with holding on to showrunners or securing them in general and of course the costs of running all these separate crews because the shows aren't one and done seasons allowing the reuse of staff.
What difficulty? The only showrunners who have left are the ones for Daredevil, both of which left when given the opportunity to direct movies, not because they had any problems.
Jest Chillin
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It's not common to lose a showrunner after one season, regardless of the reason, let alone two showrunners in two seasons. And Iron Fist has clearly taken them longer than anticipated to get staffed and cast.
It's also not easy to maintain feel and character portrayal when you've got multiple unrelated showrunners handling them at different points of time. DD had the benefit of the first two showrunners having worked together long enough to understand each other. The second two coming from the writers room on S1 also helped maintain the feel and tone. DD, JJ, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist having separate showrunners thus different feel and tone works because they're separate. Whoever showruns The Defenders though has to mesh all 4 characters while keeping them accurate to their previous portrayals and yet maintaining their vision of The Defenders as a whole. That's 5 different creative voices + Marvel creative direction to take into account. 4 + Marvel isn't much less but it IS less.
I really liked the deleted scene with Cap looking over the Howling Commandos' files, then looking at Peggy's and her status was "retired" and her contact info was available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov4qMSfg9w
Sets up his reunion in The Winter Soldier, but this would've been a nice tease. But at the same time, maybe it was for the best that they kept that off.
Sounds like Marvel will screen Civil War nearly a month early on April 13 at CinemaCon. (Source)
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
get ready for all the hype tweets from people coming out of the screening... and get ready to get all excited when everything is positive even though we just learned that positive early impressions really mean jack shit
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
get ready for all the hype tweets from people coming out of the screening... and get ready to get all excited when everything is positive even though we just learned that positive early impressions really mean jack shit
I for one have learned nothing. Bring on the hype.
You realize that Drew Goddard never made it to production right? He wrote the first two episodes and planned the overall arc, yes, but by the time they actually started shooting the series, it was DeKnight.
That early is good news. They aren't fucking around. Disney is apparently very bullish about the film and know they have a big winner on their hands.
Glass Rebel
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Is Goddard still on good terms with Marvel? I hope he gets the chance to work on another Marvel property after both Daredevil and Spidey fell through.
Oh god I need all the spoilers.
We've known that early impressions, especially from the type of people who will be seeing this, are useless for a long time but I have more faith in this movie living up to the hype than the one that couldn't even get a good full trailer produced for it.
Jest Chillin
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I'm not sure why you pointed this out when it doesn't change my point at all.
Lexi Alexander talks about how her Punisher movie came to be and DD season 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl7Gj_01xu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl7Gj_01xu8
BrokenFiction
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She's on her own side with The Punisher.
They'll mete out justice — and one-liners — for everyone.
Kat Dennings to join Punisher Netflix series confirmed.
PhoncipleBone
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Goddess Cate getting more fit? Sign me up.
Tom Hiddleston is looking forward to Ragnarok, but unsure whether he will be back for Infinity War.
peanutbutterlatte
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Unless Thanos kills him at the end of Ragnarok (repayment for completely fudging the New York invasion), he pretty much has to be right?
Wut? Daredevil would be so out of place in a Thanos movie it's not even funny.
Loki should replace Mephisto 100% though.
If Hawkeye can shoot his arrows and Black Widow can do flippy shit against super aliens in Avengers 1, I'm sure Daredevil can find a role in the mega movie that is supposed to tie this entire universe together.
Well I guess if they go the Alien peons route again. Watching poor Matt trying to punch Thanos though just seems sad.
Pai Pai Master
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Even if Loki does die in Ragnarok, not like that prevents him from returning at some point in Infinity War. We know the key players but they won't be announcing any supporting cast members for a while.
They have to have at least one slow-motion shot of him spitting out blood while getting up from an ass-beating.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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I just finished the first series of Daredevil finally, and it was fucking great, I loved it.
I think Charlie Cox has an option to appear in the movies as part of his contract. Just the matter of whether or not the Russos want Daredevil in any capacity.
I remember Feige saying Loki would have a very big role to play in Infinity War:
http://screencrush.com/loki-thor-3-avengers-infinity-war/
Granted, that was over a year ago...but I feel that Marvel would be completely daft to drop Hiddleston entirely, given his enormous popularity and the reception he received at Comic Con. Hiddleston also recently said he was "unsure" about his return in Thor: Ragnarok:
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/tom-hiddleston-thor-ragnarok/
It's probably a polite way of saying that his contracts are being negotiated.
http://screencrush.com/loki-thor-3-avengers-infinity-war/
Granted, that was over a year ago...but I feel that Marvel would be completely daft to drop Hiddleston entirely, given his enormous popularity and the reception he received at Comic Con. Hiddleston also recently said he was "unsure" about his return in Thor: Ragnarok:
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/tom-hiddleston-thor-ragnarok/
It's probably a polite way of saying that his contracts are being negotiated.
aHebrewMenagerie
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I'd be suprised if Thanos curbstomping the various realms wasn't part of the lead up!
PhoncipleBone
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Part one of Infinity War is the curb stomp, ending with Thanos getting all the gems. Part two continues the curb stomp.
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