demosthenes
Member
:lol :lol
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Marvel Cinematic Universe |OT2| Discussion on released and future projects (spoilers)
- Thread starter TDLink
- Start date
- Status
:lol :lol
oh god lmao
Guardians of the Galaxy Porn Parody... Groot looks interesting
TDLink
Member
Some speculation relating to Civil War concerning the Vision...
Warning, Civil War Spoilers:
So something I noticed...am I looking to much into this or was this intentional?
Vision bonds with Wanda in some way (you can interpret exactly what way that is however you want, but it's there). At the end of the airport sequence, he goes to comfort/is concerned about Wanda after War Machine uses the sonic device to stop her from holding up the falling debris. He is distracted with her when war machine and iron man give chase to the quinjet...and he misses falcon and shoots war machine due to that distraction. But...was he really distracted?
To me it seems like he might have shot War Machine on purpose. War Machine just caused Wanda great distress/some sort of damage. So Vision intentionally strikes him. Alternatively, it might not even be an act he was consciously aware of intentionally doing (he doesn't completely understand/control the soul gem yet). Maybe it's what he wanted to happen without entirely realizing it. Either way I think it's intentional/not a coincidence that War Machine is the one who causes Vision to become "distracted" with Wanda...and then is the one shot by Vision.
Am I crazy?
Warning, Civil War Spoilers:
So something I noticed...am I looking to much into this or was this intentional?
Vision bonds with Wanda in some way (you can interpret exactly what way that is however you want, but it's there). At the end of the airport sequence, he goes to comfort/is concerned about Wanda after War Machine uses the sonic device to stop her from holding up the falling debris. He is distracted with her when war machine and iron man give chase to the quinjet...and he misses falcon and shoots war machine due to that distraction. But...was he really distracted?
To me it seems like he might have shot War Machine on purpose. War Machine just caused Wanda great distress/some sort of damage. So Vision intentionally strikes him. Alternatively, it might not even be an act he was consciously aware of intentionally doing (he doesn't completely understand/control the soul gem yet). Maybe it's what he wanted to happen without entirely realizing it. Either way I think it's intentional/not a coincidence that War Machine is the one who causes Vision to become "distracted" with Wanda...and then is the one shot by Vision.
Am I crazy?
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I seriously wonder what the MCU's Norman Osborne is like
Not crazy, seems like
a valid interpretation of that scene. I wouldn't know what to make of Vision if that's true, tho. I liked the idea that he was distressed at Wanda being hurt enough that he didn't even pay enough attention to ensure his blast wouldn't hit War Machine if it missed Falcon.
torre_avenue
Banned
That's actually a decent interpretation. It really wouldn't surprise me if this was teasing Vision becoming more human, and considering how Marvel seems to be sowing the seeds of the Vision-Wanda romance, it seems more than valid that, regardless of how conscious Vision was of his reasons, some part of him wanted to hurt Rhodey. But, then again, considering how the whole thing was to stop the Quinjet without killing Cap of Bucky, it might have just been a huge coincidence.
TDLink
Member
Right this is basically what I'm trying to get at. Could be a coincidence or it could not be. A big theme of this movie -is- vengeance, so...
More_Badass
Member
The fact that Vision, the only other flier there, didn't even try to save Rhodey says a lot
broncobuster
Banned
I'll be interested if Norman is what Justin Hammer tried to be in IM2. If Tony's in SMH, there could be friction if Oscorp is manufacturing advanced weaponry for the military.
Side note, I look forward to using the SMH acronym.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Dafoe WAS Osborne... almost as much as RDJ is Iron Man. I'm sure the character can be done justice again, but the bar has been set ridiculously high.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Anyone read the supposed MCU Leak thread on /tv/? Some of it is rather interesting reading even though, you know... 4chan leaks... lol.
Tell us some of it
Do you have a link?
Mr. Pointy
Member
I'll just paste them here.
This level of info dump is probably fanfic tier. But one can dream about a Moon Knight Netflix series.
This level of info dump is probably fanfic tier. But one can dream about a Moon Knight Netflix series.
Come on, did you honestly thought that Evans wouldnt show up in some kind of way in Infinity War?I thought Civil War was Evans last portrayal as Cap.
my dreams are crushed.
Edit: LOL, this list is so wrong, they didnt knew about facts like Mads Mikkelsen beeint Nightmare.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Also IIRC, Vulture is the only villain in Spiderman: Homecoming.
is it a fact? I thought that was still just speculation, but idk
TDLink
Member
Also not true. We don't yet know which role he is playing. That is just a common one that is speculated.
This was never stated. It was just rumoured that the Vulture would appear in the movie. Not confirmed, much less stated he'd be the only one.
All that said, I don't really believe this list. It's all plausible but there's almost too much in there for it to be actually real. We'll quickly discover how bullshit it is since more Spider-man casting announcements should happen soon and I am sure they'll officially announce Doctor Strange's villain before the film comes out.
Father_Brain
Banned
There's enough separation between the film and TV sides of Marvel that I'm particularly skeptical about anyone who claims to have significant inside information about both.
TDLink
Member
Eh, Regardless of if this is true I'm pretty sure both sides know more or less what the other is doing despite being separate. Maybe they don't know casting and far in the future plans, but I am pretty sure TV side knows internally more or less what the upcoming slate is like for the films and vice versa. Film side being aware that TV side is going to do a Ghost Rider series, or whatever, makes complete sense.
I don't really believe they're really completely at war with eachother or whatever either. Movie characters have been in Agents of SHIELD. Agent Carter had direct involvement from Feige and she's been a presence in many of the films (including the newest one). Tom Holland (Spider-Man) allegedly did screen tests with Jon Bernthal (Punisher).
Father_Brain
Banned
I will say that while I would not have guessed Dr. Druid as the villain in Doctor Strange, he fits the description of Mikkelsen's character much better than Nightmare does.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
I'd like to believe that list, but too many fake rumours recently, wait and see.
Be pleased as punch if Chris Evans sticks around though.
Be pleased as punch if Chris Evans sticks around though.
Marvel's director hires have been pretty good for the most part. They seem to have an eye for talent, or at the very least, directors willing to submit to some oversight to have their movies fit within the MCU.
I'm not even worried anymore after the Russos, who were known for doing (good) Community episodes and comedies prior to The Winter Soldier.
There's hiring someone like Tim Miller, who has been involved in various projects even if not as a director to do a $60m Deadpool movie and then there's hiring Emily Carmichael, who has not been involved in anything remotely big and has not even directed a feature film (or actual TV episodes) to do a $130m Captain Marvel movie, a project Marvel seems very cautious about.
The only truly plausible thing about that list is Marvel's reluctance towards projects with female leads.
The only truly plausible thing about that list is Marvel's reluctance towards projects with female leads.
Release it on the same date as a JLA movie to fuck with everyone's mind
Secret Fawful
Member
Stakar/Starhawk is a superhero with powers tied to light and darkness manipulation, being able to make constructs out of pure light, so maybe.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I really hope there is an Iron Man 4 and Captain America 4 in the next phase. They need to position these characters after "Infinity Wars". They also need to bring back Shane to direct Iron Man 4. CapAm4 needs to put some closure to the character, seeing as Civil War didn't progress the character in any substantial way.
Phase 4 is going to be crowded as is, though. Spider-Man 2, Black Panther 2, Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3, Captain Marvel 2, Doctor Strange 2, Ant-Man 3 and hopefully a new property or two.
Phase 4 is going to be crowded as is, though. Spider-Man 2, Black Panther 2, Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3, Captain Marvel 2, Doctor Strange 2, Ant-Man 3 and hopefully a new property or two.
Perhaps for the newer characters but in regards of the original MCU Avengers, I see IW as their accumulation of everything that has been lead up to since Thanos' appearance in 2012 (or perhaps Fury's appearance in 2008). The Infinity Gauntlet is the finish line for everything else that has been building up to and for vet characters, whatever shit that's been lingering since their MCU debuts may as well end there because when Thanos comes to town, whatever story arcs that are going down, let alone in Phase 3, will no longer matter. Surviving Thanos for these characters may as well be their new slate.
TDLink
Member
At 3 movies a year 6 films isn't crowded at all. Phase 2 was 3 years. Phase 3 will be 4 years. If Phase 4 is 3-4 years that means you can expect 3-6 more beyond those 6 sequels.
Mr. Pointy
Member
The only problem is they may end up with a full blown Josh Trank situation, bare minimum a Thor 2. Anyway, I suppose if Emily is getting the Captain Marvel chair, she probably knows what she's getting into, and Marvel probably has enough oversight on it to make sure it works out. I'm still hoping for Kathryn Bigelow to direct a something, but I'll take whatever.
-0-0-0-0-0-
How likely do you think Thanos will kill Vision in Infinity War?
I figure they need to make Thanos a credible threat, Vision has the Mind Gem and he's a robot, so...
Glass Rebel
Member
Most of these leaks sound more like speculation based on stuff we already know. That said, I'd laugh if Tessa Thompson becomes the new love interest for Thor. Lady Sif always taking that L.
And his origin story mirrors Starlord's in some ways.
And his origin story mirrors Starlord's in some ways.
Who?
Nicole Perman (Captain Marvel Screenwritter) followed Emily somethingsomething
Nicole Perlman is a woman...
There's also Colin Trevorrow who follows Emily Carmichael on Twitter.
- Status