Pai Pai Master
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I really doubt they could use The Bugle in MCU. Are there any rival publications they can use instead?
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Marvel Cinematic Universe |OT2| Discussion on released and future projects (spoilers)
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yankeehater
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I thought that they were going to use the Oscorp tower in Avengers, maybe they could just ask Sony to let them use the Bugle.
badcrumble
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It sounds like Ant-Man is going to help fill in the gaps somewhat as well, given the Hank Pym stuff.
Pai Pai Master
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I think that was more of an easter-egg kinda thing, which fell through and I dunno if Sony would be in agreement about it being a recurring setting for the show.
Marvel's walking a fine line if they want to have the character of their series working at the Daily Bugle on a daily basis. It may confuse audiences and have them expecting Parker to show up at some point.
Marvel's walking a fine line if they want to have the character of their series working at the Daily Bugle on a daily basis. It may confuse audiences and have them expecting Parker to show up at some point.
TDLink
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Marvel has the Spider-Man rights for television. The license agreements only apply to Live Action films. Since the Netflix shows are in the MCU it is just unlikely Marvel would want to, say, introduce Spider-Man and then be unable to use him in a film later. They could use the Daily Bugle in the show no problem though if they wanted just so long as no mention of it comes up in the films.
They can use that loophole for other stuff as well like Kingpin in the Daredevil series or something.
yankeehater
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That is interesting. Have they said anything about the netflix show characters crossing over into movies? I just worry that the movie versions would look much better due to the much larger budgets, plus the level of actor they get for a netflix show might not be up to the film standards. I would love to see Disney do a Spiderman show though.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah, forgot about Marvel actually owning the Spidey TV rights. I doubt they want to risk putting him in one of the Netflix shows but that does open up their access to The Bugle.
Yankee, they haven't nailed down any specific cross-overs with the MCU films but they did confirm that the Netflix series will take place within the larger MCU just like Agents of SHIELD.
Yankee, they haven't nailed down any specific cross-overs with the MCU films but they did confirm that the Netflix series will take place within the larger MCU just like Agents of SHIELD.
Father_Brain
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Not that I see any reason to believe otherwise, but to split hairs just a tad: has anyone other than Drew Pearce, who doesn't work for Marvel and isn't involved with any of the Netflix series as far as we know, actually confirmed this?
Weapxn
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As far as I know, no, there has been no official statement from Marvel directly linking the two universes.
TDLink
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There's close to 0 chance, anyone other than Drew Pearce having already confirmed it or not, that the Netflix shows will not be part of the MCU.
On Drew Pearce specifically, keep in mind that he has written a MCU film and one shot already. So he's definitely "in the know". I see no reason why he would lie about it.
On Drew Pearce specifically, keep in mind that he has written a MCU film and one shot already. So he's definitely "in the know". I see no reason why he would lie about it.
Father_Brain
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You can be misinformed about or incorrectly assume things without lying about them.
But like I said, this is probably just hair-splitting and I see little to no reason why Marvel would want to have the Netflix series in their own universe. It just hasn't come from the horse's mouth yet.
badcrumble
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I think it makes sense for them to be in-universe but the idea that Avengers 3 will have every single street-level Netflix hero in it fighting Thanos is just as laughable as the idea that Avengers 3 will have Fitz and Simmons in it, also fighting Thanos.
Marvel's job will get far easier if they can get audiences to accept that Avengers films don't need to be the sole source of crossover material, and to accept that Avengers films don't need to include every single major and minor hero in them.
Marvel's job will get far easier if they can get audiences to accept that Avengers films don't need to be the sole source of crossover material, and to accept that Avengers films don't need to include every single major and minor hero in them.
For a clue, watch Iron Man 3 again.
BlackNMild2k1
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I agree, I don't see what daredevil really has to offer to the fight against Thanos
Unless they are trying to sue him for the damage done to NYC during Avengers 1, 2 & 3
maybe helping to clear the street of civilians while everyone contributes more... directly.
I will. Blu-Ray is still unopened, because I hated the movie when I saw him in the cinema.
Imagine a Damage Control Movie
I were ok if they would sepererate Streetlevel Heroes like Daredevil or Iron Fist from the more on a global level operating ones like the members of the Avengers, who deal often with stuff like alien Invasion or cosmic dictators.
What they need to do is acknowledge each other in their universe
BlackNMild2k1
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Imagine a Damage Control Movie
I were ok if they would sepererate Streetlevel Heroes like Daredevil or Iron Fist from the more on a global level operating ones like the members of the Avengers, who deal often with stuff like alien Invasion or cosmic dictators.
What they need to do is acknowledge each other in their universe
Yes a Global/Cosmic MCU and a Street Level MCU, who exist in the same U, but deal with different threats, often referencing each other in passing and at SHIELD picnics & parties.
I just hope the Netflix series end up hitting the ground running like s2 of Arrow and not spend far too many episodes before establishing and expanding the characters and the MCU.
I also expect some Agent of SHIELD crossovers.
And as far as Damage Control is concerned, I was expecting that to be part of the Agents of SHIELD show, showing the clean up of NY so quickly.
Maybe they'll throw that in after Avengers 2 instead, and add a throw back line like "that was the same company that cleaned up New York last time an Avengers conflict destroyed half the city... they do good work, and they're really quick, but their so expensive".
I believe Bob Iger has also confirmed that the Netflix series takes place in the MCU.
At this point unless stated otherwise anything Marvel produces that is live action should be assumed to be in the MCU. I don't know how the assumption that the Netflix shows were in its own continuity started. The closest rumor to something like that I've heard is that the Netflix shows may be set in the 70s/80s.
DonasaurusRex
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it all depends on if she gives it up to Luke Cage in her Netflix series.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
JJ is a heck of a lot more interesting than Jewel anyway.
Pai Pai Master
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iTunes version is out now.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Agreed! Chris Evans tends to be the best thing in everything he's in. Although I'll admit I'm a bit biased since he's my favorite actor
George Oscar Bluth II
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RobotNinjaHornets
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I think Chris Evans probably holds the record for most comic characters played.
Also I love all those fake film posters from Scott Pilgrim.
Also I love all those fake film posters from Scott Pilgrim.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Does anyone think we'll get a look at Age of Ultron after the Guardians of The Galaxy credits? It is the last film before it, after all.
Most likely yes. After all, production for A2 starts very soon. If they rush things, maybe they will even be able to produce something quickly for Capt2.
PhoncipleBone
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They wont attach anything for it to Cap 2. They will probably just focus on GotG with that, and then maybe a trailer for Avengers before or after Guardians.
I doubt. Between Thor 2 and GotG was at least a connection, while we could be very sure, that there will be almost none between Cap 2 and GotG. Also. Cap 2 is supposed to be the Movie, who leads directly to Avengers 2. I am very sure, that we will get at least some foreshadowing of Ulton. Like someone injecting a Virus in pieces of the destroyed Iron Man suits or something like this.
TDLink
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The post credits scene for Cap 2 is confirmed A2 related, at the very least.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Cap 2 credits scene is
apparently.
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch
TDLink
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Yes, which is a direct tie to A2.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Yup. But I was thinking for more of an Age of Ultron teaser trailer attached to GoTG like they attached a teaser trailer for the first Avengers to Cap 1.
PhoncipleBone
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Foreshadowing and set up yes. I was referring to a trailer not being there. Sorry if I was vague originally.
I don't recall any rumours for a Nova movie? Otherwise Feige had pretty much flat out said to expect a standalone Strange movie and that BP will not go ignored.
It's all high hopes more than reliable rumours. The only thing that points towards a Nova movie is the kid from IM3 signing the multimovie contract, who could end up being just the kid ultimately.
There's more pointing towards Ms. Marvel than Nova.
TDLink
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I'm confident that kid in IM3 will have nothing to do with MCU Nova.
Me saying Nova is likely is part my own wishful thinking and part Feige saying that he wants the cosmic films to stand apart and not rely on The Avengers, which so far it has. After GotG Nova is the next most logical choice. There have also been rumours that indicate a character in the GotG movie already is being looked at for a solo film. Although as Richard Rider has yet to be confirmed for the movie (despite the Nova Corps being present) it's possible that could have been referring to Ronan the Accuser.
There's no indication for Ms Marvel at all except for Marvel saying they're interested in a female led project. And they are doing Jessica Jones now, and possibly Agent Carter, so it may have just been one of those.
Pai Pai Master
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Pretty sure Sony owns the Kingpin rights, they lent him out to Fox for Daredevil.
Ah ok. Could have been great in the street level Netflix series.
Hmm... actually, I'm wondering who owns Kingpin. I remember that The Spectacular Spider-Man couldn't use him (and used Tombstone instead) because of rights issues, and Sony was behind that one, so... maybe they were permanently moved to Fox? Or it was a shared sort of thing? Or maybe TV is an entirely different beast with this sort of thing.
Pai Pai Master
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TV rights are different. Sony previously had animation rights for Spider-Man but they reverted to Marvel.
TheVampire
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Captain America and the Solider of Winter.
Makes it sound like a Harry Potter title.
http://www.laineygossip.com/Captain-America-2-Super-Bowl-trailer/29314
This site appears to confirm that the post credits scene for Cap 2 will featureQuicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
All I have to say is this photo is freaking hilarious.
LOL Singer.
What if.. MCU is the House of M of the X-men film universe.
I don't see why Sony can't make a similar arrangement with Marvel/Disney for Kingpin. Sony seems to be on better terms with Marvel since they rely on them for Spider-Man merchandising rights.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
oh man OH MAN
I can see it now.
Phase 5 or some shit, after Marvel somehow wrestles back the X-Men rights. First film opens with "no more mutants." Rest of the film is a flashback. We see the X-Men throughout various events in the MCU. They were there in Avengers 1. Hell, they were there in Avengers 2 and 3. Played a huge role in the Infinity Gauntlet. Rest of the film is new events, heavily features the typical "world hates mutants" trope. Lots of infighting. Various plot whosawhats. One way or another, builds up to Scarlet Witch erasing mutants.
But the MCU twist is that she does it Sentry-style. Not only are they all depowered, but the world forgets they ever existed. Everyone remembers a world where the heroes in the Avengers film were the first real appearance of super-powered heroes, despite a "true" history where there were decades upon decades of mutants.
Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are the only ones that survive the cull, and they remain in the world's memories as a part of the Avengers. Maybe she reverses "no more mutants" at the end of the movie, or maybe X-Men 2 is about the magic wearing off naturally, and the world coming to grips with these mutants in their midst, memories coming back and powers re-emerging. Which, with the heavy Avengers focus the MCU has had, dovetails brilliantly into Civil War.
aw now I made myself sad
Sounds great and would make perfect sense
Disney has so much money, I really cant understand why they dont just go and offer Fox and Sony a hell of money and buy all rights back.
yankeehater
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Sounds great and would make perfect sense
Disney has so much money, I really cant understand why they dont just go and offer Fox and Sony a hell of money and buy all rights back.
I wouldnt be surprised to see them go after the Spiderman rights if SM 2 flops given Sony's financial problems. I cant see Fox ever giving up the X-men though.
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