• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Marvel Legacy: Spider-Man goes back to basics (spoilers)

Dalek

Member
This fall will see the launch of Marvel Legacy, a new initiative by the world-famous comic publisher to return many of its famous characters to core principles — and, along with it, the comics' original numbering. Marvel has gone through a few different initiatives in recent years that relaunched series with new number-one issues — Marvel NOW! in 2012, with All-New All-Different Marvel following a couple years later in the wake of Secret Wars. But this new numbering will tie Marvel's books back to its predecessors and the long-running history of Marvel.

Legacy, however, will drill heroes back down to what their fans love about them. Recent years have seen much experimentation with status quo — Peter Parker became a tech billionaire, Steve Rogers became a Hydra agent, and so on. Legacy, by contrast, will see heroes like Spider-Man go back to what they do best, while still looking ahead to the future.

EW can exclusively reveal the Legacy covers for Amazing Spider-Man #789 (which reverts back to this classic numbering after September) and Venom #155 (which already went back to original numbering in May to celebrate issue #150). That Amazing Spider-Man issue will begin the ”Fall of Parker" storyline, in which Peter returns to The Daily Bugle in a mysterious capacity following the disappearance of Parker Industries, while Venom begins the ”Lethal Protector" story that will pit everyone's favorite symbiote against fellow Spider-villains like Kraven the Hunter.

EW talked to Amazing writer Dan Slott and Venom artist Mark Bagley about what they have in store for their characters under Legacy‘s brand-new day. Look for both issues to hit stands this October, and look for another Marvel Legacy post to hit EW.com later on Friday...

asm2015789cov.jpg


ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Marvel Legacy seems to be bringing Marvel characters down to their core aspects. Peter Parker's gone through a lot of changes in recent years, from his time of possession by Doc Ock to his recent stint as head of Parker Industries. How does Legacy bring him back to earth?
DAN SLOTT: This is a Peter Parker who's had it all, lost it all, and now has to find his place in the world again. It's a return to the scrappy underdog status that's the Peter Parker we all know and love. We're going to see a return to form, with old friends coming back onto the stage, some in all-new ways. It's all been leading to this — from Big Time, to Superior, through Spider-Verse, and the Parker Industries era. It's been a crazy ride, but now that we're here, we're going to get a Peter/Spider-Man that's closer to a core Spidey than we've had in years. Everything counts. Payoffs for longtime readers are coming, but the Marvel Legacy of it all will also make this a great jump on point for new readers — or people who've just discovered Spider-Man in Homecoming.

It sounds like Peter will be involved with The Daily Bugle again after some time away. What role does the Bugle fill in his life?
In Amazing Spider-Man we're going to see The Daily Bugle and the Bugle cast come back in a big way. And, no, it is NOT about Peter becoming a photographer again. It's a new twist. It's something we haven't seen in Amazing Spider-Man yet. After 55 years, that's a pretty cool trick, right? And it's a development I've been dying to get to for a long time!

You've worked on Spider-Man for a while now. How has your relationship to the character changed over that time?

Since I was 8 years old, Spider-Man wasn't just my favorite super hero, he was my favorite character in all fiction. That hasn't changed. It's just now I'm the guy stacking the deck against the poor schlub. Every year, every issue, every panel it's my job to find new ways to test him, to knock him down. And it's always worth it because nobody gets back up like Spider-Man. And when he gets back up, we all do.

Between this, Chip Zdarsky and Adam Kubert's new Spider-book, new cartoons, and of course Spider-Man: Homecoming, this feels like a great time to be a Spider-fan. What will hungry fans get out of Amazing going forward?
Couldn't agree more! Chip and Adam on Spectacular, the Miles Morales, Ben Reilly, and Spider-Gwen books, the new Disney XD Spider-Man cartoon, Homecoming — this is a golden era for Spidey fans! Over on Amazing, we're going to be serving up everything you love about Spider-Man, all the quips and thwips! There'll be big adventure, soap opera twists, the craziest villains, the greatest supporting cast, and you'll be getting it gorgeously penciled by Stuart Immonen, inked by Wade von Grawbadger, and colored by Marte Gracia — the best damn art team in all of comics! Plus, don't forget, when Legacy kicks off, Amazing Spider-Man goes back to its original numbering. And that number is #789. Amazing Spider-Man #1 kicked off in 1963. This book has been charting Peter Parker's destiny all that time, and the countdown to Amazing Spider-Man #800 is starting now. The ride from here on out is going to be epic! And the payoff is going to be huge!
 

Penguin

Member
Wait was Spidey not on its original numbering?

I thought it went back to it a while ago did they undo that?
 

Stalk

Member
I just want Slott off the book at this point :( I enjoyed Superior and some parts of Clone Conspiracy but other than that it has been bland and kinda forgettable.
 

SpaceWolf

Banned
I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'm actually okay with this return to the status quo. I really hated Peter as a rich, jet-setting CEO of a successful technology company so I'd fully welcome a return to his more grounded roots as a New Yorker just struggling to get by.

I just want Slott off the book at this point :( .

Also this, though. I really dislike Slott as a writer and wish the book would finally get some fresh talent in.
 

Auctopus

Member
I feel like Spider-man is the superhero who needs the least setup/complication yet he always seems to suffer from the most.

I like the art, will have to wait and see on the goods.
 
I'm looking forward to what is very likely to be an utterly contrived and stupid in-universe reason for the status quo change.
 
It's a return to the scrappy underdog status that's the Peter Parker we all know and love.

Fuuuuck. Off.

Seriously, this is why I stopped reading comics for a lot of years. These aren't actual story characters, sadly, they're corporate logos. They can't develop or progress, not for long. They always HAVE to be reset every few years back to whatever early part of their story they think people are most familiar with.

Hey Marvel? If you're going to tell stories about Peter Parker the guy who works at the Bugle and struggles to make ends meet? We've already read that. Many many many times.

We have a scrappy underdog/college student/girl problems Spider-Man already, too. His name is Miles. We don't need to regress Peter (even though we knew it was inevitable).
 

Shauni

Member
How many years has Slott been writing this now? Got to be some kind of record, dude has been on the book for as long as I can think back to OMD/BND
 

mreddie

Member
SPOILER: Ock owns the Bugle

It's a return to the scrappy underdog status that's the Peter Parker we all know and love.

Fuuuuck.

Seriously, this is why I stopped reading comics for a lot of years. These aren't actual story characters, sadly, they're corporate logos. They can't develop or progress, not for long. They always HAVE to be reset every few years back to whatever early part of their story they think people are most familiar with.

Hey Marvel? If you're going to tell stories about Peter Parker the guy who works at the Bugle and struggles to make ends meet? We've already read that. Many many many times.


They are catering to those complaining about Parker being Stark 2.0 and Slott instead to leaving right here, he's gonna be a asshole and go back to square one.

Honestly, Slott's run is one big love letter to Doc ock.
 

LordRaptor

Member
History is going to be very, very, very kind to Slotts run, even if you don't like him or are bored of him doing the writing duties.
 

Viewt

Member
I miss the "Webheads" model from Brand New Day - just 4-5 good writers who do round-robin arcs with different artists. You got lots of great, diverse writing styles that still all fit together for the larger narrative. Aside from the shaky beginning, it was the best Spider-Man's been in fucking decades.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
They wonder why Comic Books are so niche

This is why!

Stop doing these events reboots of reboots, Jesus, every time something sticks, nah we gotta change the formula to New Coke!
 

Permanently A

Junior Member
It’s a return to the scrappy underdog status that’s the Peter Parker we all know and love.

Fuuuuck. Off.

Seriously, this is why I stopped reading comics for a lot of years. These aren't actual story characters, sadly, they're corporate logos. They can't develop or progress, not for long. They always HAVE to be reset every few years back to whatever early part of their story they think people are most familiar with.

Hey Marvel? If you're going to tell stories about Peter Parker the guy who works at the Bugle and struggles to make ends meet? We've already read that. Many many many times.

We have a scrappy underdog/college student/girl problems Spider-Man already, too. His name is Miles. We don't need to regress Peter (even though we knew it was inevitable).

I mean what are they supposed to do? You can't keep progressing in a Marvel comic, that would require a conclusion.
 
I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'm actually okay with this return to the status quo. I really hated Peter as a rich, jet-setting CEO of a successful technology company so I'd fully welcome a return to his more grounded roots as a New Yorker just struggling to get by.



Also this, though. I really dislike Slott as a writer and wish the book would finally get some fresh talent in.
Same here. Felt like he was riding the Tony Stark train.
 
Kind of off topic but this seems like a decent enough thread to ask this – where do I start with the Miles storyline?

I'm currently subbed to the free month of Marvel Unlimited and wanted to check this out but, as usual, I'm kind of confused as to where to start. I found that he first appears in the Fallout series after Peter dies but it's not really an origin story and I only got half way through the series before getting bored of it.
 
SPOILER: Ock owns the Bugle




They are catering to those complaining about Parker being Stark 2.0 and Slott instead to leaving right here, he's gonna be a asshole and go back to square one.

Honestly, Slott's run is one big love letter to Doc ock.

Sure, but the correct solution is to show how he's different than Stark. Stark is ruthless, Peter is compassionate. Use it as an opportunity to examine whether a CEO like Peter can make it, maybe? I dunno. But this "back to the basics" stuff sucks. It always happens.
 

Drayco21

Member
The only thing I really want is that BC rumor about Slott leaving and Spencer taking the book over to come true.

Slott has been pretty awful for a while now- I'll never understand how you can take an idea like Spider-Verse and manage to make it as bad as it turned out.
 

mreddie

Member
They wonder why Comic Books are so niche

This is why!

Stop doing these events reboots of reboots, Jesus, every time something sticks, nah we gotta change the formula to New Coke!

The thing they did let him progress...and then assholes came and opted to do One More Day.

DC has been doing a better job at progression than Marvel.
 
D

Deleted member 13876

Unconfirmed Member
Will be really idiotic to read the reasons why someone who can pump out million dollar gadgets has to work at a newspaper.

"I want pictures of Spiderman... That half of New York probably snaps on their smartphone"
 

Shauni

Member
Peter David wrote Hulk for near 10 years too at one point.

Yeah, but I was talking about Spider-Man. How long has Slott been on now? I'm assuming probably Stan Lee wrote more, but Slott's got to be up there. JMS wrote for a long time, too, I think.
 

Alienous

Member
The thing they did let him progress...and then assholes came and opted to do One More Day.

DC has been doing a better job at progression than Marvel.

Have they?

It feels like Damian Wayne has been 10 years old forever now. Everyone feels frozen in time, expect I guess Superman.
 
I'm not buying a Mark Bagley book but the first issue of Spectacular was great. First time I've enjoyed a Spidey book I sampled in about a decade.

Have they?

It feels like Damian Wayne has been 10 years old forever now. Everyone feels frozen in time, expect I guess Superman.

They've written themselves into a corner with all the Robins in relation to Bruce's age. They can't really age up Damian much more.
 

mreddie

Member
Have they?

It feels like Damian Wayne has been 10 years old forever now. Everyone feels frozen in time, expect I guess Superman.

But at least Batman has a kid, has a family.

Spider Man? Dude's own marriage got retconned because it made him feel old.
 

Viewt

Member
People have a right to be wrong


Now that i think about it, him becoming editor would be too perfect so it won't happen. They could even give him a new Robbie Robertson

True. We both know Jeff Parker did the best run on Thunderbolts. ;)
 

Stalk

Member
I actually also miss when Spider-man was written by the Spider-man Architects. Apart from the whole uh... Neo-Vulture mess some of those stories were great. The Rhino arc was awesome and still probably one of my favourite stories from that period.

Slott just misses the mark, I don't miss the period where he was really into Community and kept putting references to it into Peter's dialogue.

moan moan moan.

I might read the book via digital but I dropped the book as of Secret Empire physically. That BC rumour sounds super appealing, Nick Spencer's Superior Foes run is one of my favourite books.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
It makes me happy they're going back to legacy numbering. Finally. Screw the constant #1 issues.

Also, happy to see Slott continue on. I certainly haven't liked all his decisions (hi Black Cat) but his run has overall been very good.

It seems comic fans can never be pleased. I constantly saw people complaining that a wildly successful/tech savy Peter was too much like Tony Stark. Now they bring Peter back down to earth and people complain about that too.

It sounds like there's a twist to the Daily Bugle thing so let's wait and see what it is.
 
Top Bottom