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Marvel Legacy: Spider-Man goes back to basics (spoilers)

Kind of off topic but this seems like a decent enough thread to ask this – where do I start with the Miles storyline?

I'm currently subbed to the free month of Marvel Unlimited and wanted to check this out but, as usual, I'm kind of confused as to where to start. I found that he first appears in the Fallout series after Peter dies but it's not really an origin story and I only got half way through the series before getting bored of it.

Miles first appeared in Ultimate Fallout #4 and then launched his own series as Ultimate Comics: Spider Man #1.

It goes something like this.

  • Ultimate Comics: Fallout #4
  • Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man #1-28
  • Spider-Men 1-5
  • Cataclysm: Ultimate Spider-Man #1-3
  • Ultimate Spider-Man #200
  • Miles Morales: The Ultimate Spider-Man #1-12
  • Spider-Man #1- 18
  • Spider-Men II #1-
  • Spider-Man #19-
 
Miles first appeared in Ultimate Fallout #4 and then launched his own series as Ultimate Comics: Spider Man #1.

It goes something like this.

  • Ultimate Comics: Fallout #4
  • Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man #1-28
  • Spider-Men 1-5
  • Cataclysm: Ultimate Spider-Man #1-3
  • Ultimate Spider-Man #200 (included in MM:USM Vol. 1)
  • Miles Morales: The Ultimate Spider-Man #1-12
  • Spider-Man #1- 18
  • Spider-Men II #1-
  • Spider-Man #19

Perfect, thanks bud.
 

Shauni

Member
I actually also miss when Spider-man was written by the Spider-man Architects. Apart from the whole uh... Neo-Vulture mess some of those stories were great. The Rhino arc was awesome and still probably one of my favourite stories from that period.

Slott just misses the mark, I don't miss the period where he was really into Community and kept putting references to it into Peter's dialogue.

moan moan moan.

I might read the book via digital but I dropped the book as of Secret Empire physically. That BC rumour sounds super appealing, Nick Spencer's Superior Foes run is one of my favourite books.

I vague recall this, but who were they?
 

VeeP

Member
I'll give it a chance but I don't like the sound of this so far. Just give him his own fucking company. Let him have it. He's one of the smartest people in the Marvel universe.
 

Viewt

Member
I actually also miss when Spider-man was written by the Spider-man Architects. Apart from the whole uh... Neo-Vulture mess some of those stories were great. The Rhino arc was awesome and still probably one of my favourite stories from that period.

Slott just misses the mark, I don't miss the period where he was really into Community and kept putting references to it into Peter's dialogue.

moan moan moan.

I might read the book via digital but I dropped the book as of Secret Empire physically. That BC rumour sounds super appealing, Nick Spencer's Superior Foes run is one of my favourite books.

Hell yes.

FORGIVE-YOU.jpg
 

Stalk

Member
Oh joy...

Yup! Recently gave it a read and thought it was fantastic. I guess it just didn't hit those floppy sales Marvel measures by :/

If I'm going to make multiple posts moaning in a thread as well I might as well praise Chip's first issue. I feel he's going for a similar tone to his Howard run (a wink wink nudge nudge look at the camera kinda deal) and that might actually work, he has a great voice as a writer I feel. I just wonder how he's going to shoehorn himself into the story this time.
 

IrishNinja

Member
I just want Slott off the book at this point :( I enjoyed Superior and some parts of Clone Conspiracy but other than that it has been bland and kinda forgettable.

overall ive enjoyed more of slott's run than not, but yeah, it's high past time to give him his own Untold Tales or something & give AMS to someone else

I've got a huge soft spot for Fred Van Lente (love his taskmaster mini) as well hah.

that was indeed a good mini & ive adored Lente since Action Philosophers! but man is his marvel work inconsistent

Unless he is editor or owner of the Daily Bugle, they can fuck off

yeah i wanna see some progress here too, if Miles isn't the only broke spidey running around then damn, they're just committed to not letting dude have a lane

So Rebirth?

yes DC absolutely invented the "event returning things to status quo" idea
 

mreddie

Member
Yup! Recently gave it a read and thought it was fantastic. I guess it just didn't hit those floppy sales Marvel measures by :/

If I'm going to make multiple posts moaning in a thread as well I might as well praise Chip's first issue. I feel he's going for a similar tone to his Howard run (a wink wink nudge nudge look at the camera kinda deal) and that might actually work, he has a great voice as a writer I feel. I just wonder how he's going to shoehorn himself into the story this time.

My friend who likes Spidey but hates Slott run, really disliked Spec because it painted Peter as a doof but I read it, I saw nothing wrong with it.
 

Stalk

Member
My friend who likes Spidey but hates Slott run, really disliked Spec because it painted Peter as a doof but I read it, I saw nothing wrong with it.

I mean, Peter is a doofus. I've been reading some older books recently and you just flat out forget how clumsy and awkward he is. In event books his entire role at times was just to say obviously uncomfortable things when everyone else was angry (I noticed this in Avengers: Disassembled).
 

Drayco21

Member
Bendis' GotG run came before the movie

Yeah, but it was a person who never read the old books trying to create something that would be more in line with the movie, so his name would be on the big hot new franchise people would be looking for afterwards. Then anything the movie did more in line with stuff Bendis changed was slowly changed back like nothing happened (like Knowhere as Tatooine, then being a Celestial Head again because Bendis didn't think they'd do it)

It's very clear what he was doing.
 

LordRaptor

Member
Slott added more to the overall story tapestry than he took away, including more than a few new characters (heroes, villains and supporting cast) who will stick around and in the long run thats the best you can hope for in serials.

As to the character age related fuckery people were talking about above, two words:
Franklin Richards.
 

Kevinroc

Member
People are surprised that, of all Marvel characters, Spider-Man is returning to a more classic status quo? After the shit they pulled with One More Day?
 

Slayven

Member
Slott added more to the overall story tapestry than he took away, including more than a few new characters (heroes, villains and supporting cast) who will stick around and in the long run thats the best you can hope for in serials.

As to the character age related fuckery people were talking about above, two words:
Franklin Richards.

I take back everything i said about you
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
I'm really hoping this is Slott's last storyline for this comic. Dude hasn't written anything good with it since Ends of the Earth.

Also if Peter is back to being the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, what's the point of Miles?
 

Slayven

Member
You mean for the thunderbolts run from the late 90s(the good one)? I recall that being amazing.

I am not mad at Slott for brand new day. However, I am mad at all the frequent changes thereafter.



Nah. That means Marvel has to actually be creative.

yes
 
Why does Marvel seem to think writers can't write a compelling Peter book unless dude's life is a perpetual state of struggle, misery, emotional battery, and fuckery?

Like jesus. Let that dude have some happiness.
 

kunonabi

Member
While I'd be happy to see them jettison a lot of the newer garbage attached to Peter I don't see any reason to read this when I have Renew Your Vows that has Peter exactly where I want him for the most part.
 
They should copy what Insomniac Games are doing for an older Peter Parker.

Him as a teacher makes too much sense.

I believe they did this a ways back, I don't remember the specific run (Around issue 485 I believe since that's what I'm finding with a google search as the start of his second stint on ASM which matches up with when I was reading it), but I remember John Romita Jr being on art duties for it. Read a few issues from one arc and it was fun to see Peter in that role.
 

Stalk

Member
I believe they did this a ways back, I don't remember the specific run (Around issue 485 I believe since that's what I'm finding with a google search as the start of his second stint on ASM which matches up with when I was reading it), but I remember John Romita Jr being on art duties for it. Read a few issues from one arc and it was fun to see Peter in that role.

It was during the JMS era.
 

_Ryo_

Member
Would be cool if they just continued Ultimate Spider-Man with Miles Morales without any resurrecting or anything.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
My only reaction is: Why tho?

I thought that's what Miles was for?
 
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