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Marvel Legacy: Spider-Man goes back to basics (spoilers)

ZeoVGM

Banned
I'm really hoping this is Slott's last storyline for this comic. Dude hasn't written anything good with it since Ends of the Earth.

Superior and Spider-Verse were after Ends of the Earth though.

Also, to quote Slott from the article in the OP:

the countdown to Amazing Spider-Man #800 is starting now. The ride from here on out is going to be epic! And the payoff is going to be huge!

He'll be on the book until at least #800, which means Slott is going to be staying on ASM until at least fall 2018.

Sorry guys!
 

phanphare

Banned
Superior and Spider-Verse were after Ends of the Earth though.

Also, to quote Slott from the article in the OP:



He'll be on the book until at least #800, which means Slott is going to be staying on ASM until at least fall 2018.

Sorry guys!

sounds good to me, I love well written Spider Man books!
 

kiguel182

Member
I don't get comics. I would actually read them if they were more streamlined.

Not that much of a new take but reading this and "original numbers" and shit like that just makes me like "nah".
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
Superior and Spider-Verse were after Ends of the Earth though.
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Zackat

Member
as a new comic book reader I am just constantly lost with all these time-lines and reboots and shit. it seems way more of a chore than it has any right to be
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
DAN SLOTT: This is a Peter Parker who’s had it all, lost it all, and now has to find his place in the world again. It’s a return to the scrappy underdog status that’s the Peter Parker we all know and love. We’re going to see a return to form, with old friends coming back onto the stage, some in all-new ways. It’s all been leading to this — from Big Time, to Superior, through Spider-Verse, and the Parker Industries era. It’s been a crazy ride, but now that we’re here, we’re going to get a Peter/Spider-Man that’s closer to a core Spidey than we’ve had in years. Everything counts. Payoffs for longtime readers are coming, but the Marvel Legacy of it all will also make this a great jump on point for new readers — or people who’ve just discovered Spider-Man in Homecoming.
Who actually believes this?
 

Nesotenso

Member
I don't know why Slott has to go from one extreme to another.

From Tony Stark lite to back to being broke ass Parker.

I think he was doing something good with a Parker who realizes that responsibility applies to his personal life as well, got his degree and started work as a scientist. If we are going back to a Parker who is always short of cash and cannot manage his personal finances then it is just stupid.

Seriously just take Slott off the book already.
 
Hahaha they did this already with OMD and not they just are gonna repeat this nonsense again? Oh no, Peter is getting success, quick reboot his life to his shitty bachelor and crummy job ways.... until we make him Tony Stark 2.0 .... oh shit reboot again!

Who actually believes this?

Right? We've been planning all along for 6+ years now to simply go back to point A!
 

mreddie

Member
When I found out about this I literally laughed out loud. So dumb. So, so dumb.

Axel Alonso and Tom Brevoort need to go away already because they have crippled Marvel Comics in quality. But they are making money with little continuing income.
 

IrishNinja

Member
Why does Marvel seem to think writers can't write a compelling Peter book unless dude's life is a perpetual state of struggle, misery, emotional battery, and fuckery?

Like jesus. Let that dude have some happiness.

i agree but as a daredevil fan it's hard to picture otherwise....waid did that for a bit though
 

Angel_DvA

Member
I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'm actually okay with this return to the status quo. I really hated Peter as a rich, jet-setting CEO of a successful technology company so I'd fully welcome a return to his more grounded roots as a New Yorker just struggling to get by.



Also this, though. I really dislike Slott as a writer and wish the book would finally get some fresh talent in.

I don't think you're in the minority, loser Spiderman is the best Spiderman, don't want Tony Stark 2.0
 
Slott added more to the overall story tapestry than he took away, including more than a few new characters (heroes, villains and supporting cast) who will stick around and in the long run thats the best you can hope for in serials.

As to the character age related fuckery people were talking about above, two words:
Franklin Richards.

Outside of characters, he hasn't added much with the way they keep rebooting Peter. And really hes only done so much cause hes one of the longest writers on spidey in a long time, hes been in control for way too long. Everyone who has tackled spiderman has added new content to the universe, course Slott has added a ton, hes been on it so long.
 
First they ripped Spider-Ock away from me too soon and now they take away the fun tech hijinks. I don't get why this book has to change status quos so damn often.
 
I don't know why Slott has to go from one extreme to another.

From Tony Stark lite to back to being broke ass Parker.

I think he was doing something good with a Parker who realizes that responsibility applies to his personal life as well, got his degree and started work as a scientist. If we are going back to a Parker who is always short of cash and cannot manage his personal finances then it is just stupid.

Seriously just take Slott off the book already.

We clash sometimes when it comes to some characters but basically everything you said here is fact, and double to the bold.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
To be fair they were right about Marvel Legacy or as it was referred to previously "Make Mine Marvel"

I don't doubt they'll try to have some marketing thing when Infinity War comes out but they're not "relaunching."

They're not going to bring the big comics back to legacy numbering only to reset them with #1s again in 6 months. Slott in this interview even talks about #800, which would after Infinity War.
 

IrishNinja

Member
I don't know why Slott has to go from one extreme to another.

From Tony Stark lite to back to being broke ass Parker.

I think he was doing something good with a Parker who realizes that responsibility applies to his personal life as well, got his degree and started work as a scientist. If we are going back to a Parker who is always short of cash and cannot manage his personal finances then it is just stupid.

Seriously just take Slott off the book already.

it's like JMS' run where he was a teacher & had a regular adult life never happened

Probably for the best. New series is awful so far.

i keep trying back but it never gets better - i loved peter david's x-factor run years back but he's gonna get to cleremeont status of putting out to pasture at this rate
 

Vic_Viper

Member
I don't know why Slott has to go from one extreme to another.

From Tony Stark lite to back to being broke ass Parker.

I think he was doing something good with a Parker who realizes that responsibility applies to his personal life as well, got his degree and started work as a scientist. If we are going back to a Parker who is always short of cash and cannot manage his personal finances then it is just stupid.

Seriously just take Slott off the book already.

My take on it was that Slott was going to the extreme with Parker Industries in Worldwide because he knew Spider-man was going to be going back to the basics in the upcoming event. Basically he went as crazy as he could because at the end it would all get reset anyway. Worldwide has been a super fun ride so far but it doesnt really suit Spider-man that well imo.

Legacy sounds like a mess so far

Yeah im not sure Legacy is turning out to be what Marvel originally promised. I hope SDCC announcements will right the ship, but so far I see nothing that looks interesting aside form Aaron's big book at the end.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
I'm thinking that's the twist. I hope so

If this new arc ends with Peter running the Daily Bugle, which would absolutely be moving the character forward and doing something new, this will be a fun thread to revisit.

Given Slott's politics, that could lead to some fun anti-#FakeNews stuff. Using Peter Parker as the MCU character pushing for truth and responsible journalism makes sense.
 

deleted

Member
I mean what are they supposed to do? You can't keep progressing in a Marvel comic, that would require a conclusion.

This is one of the reasons, why I just won't dive into most comic books.

I like most of the characters and find them interesting, but to have this daily soap set up without any conclusion ever and those ridiculous status quo for everyone...

I'd love for Marvel and DC to set up a universe that plays out one story. Have everyone have their special origin, have some of them come together and have it end. Not everyone has to survive but the whole series/universe won't continue and simply come to an end.
Give their old guard some breathing room and play out what else can be done with the concepts without having everyone returning from the dead and invade every other storyline. Having to read multiple series to see one story play out all the time is madness.

If they said "we are doing this thing now, starting fresh, going forward for 2 years to tell this story and then we end it" I'd be pretty excited. If authors could decide which villain to use and not having to write every existing villain into the story just because they are popular and the IPs have to be used.
 

Nesotenso

Member
Hey, wasn't Miles suppose the play the role of the underdog superhero?

Miles was fine in the Ultimate Universe. Merging his world into the main universe has just muddled his origin and story.

I guess the role they want him to play the high school version of Spider-man, so that he means he is never getting out of high school. He is also never gonna grow up because that would be aging Parker.

Stuff like this could have been avoided if they had just kept him in his own world.
 
This is one of the reasons, why I just won't dive into most comic books.

I like most of the characters and find them interesting, but to have this daily soap set up without any conclusion ever and those ridiculous status quo for everyone...

I'd love for Marvel and DC to set up a universe that plays out one story. Have everyone have their special origin, have some of them come together and have it end. Not everyone has to survive but the whole series/universe won't continue and simply come to an end.
Give their old guard some breathing room and play out what else can be done with the concepts without having everyone returning from the dead and invade every other storyline. Having to read multiple series to see one story play out all the time is madness.

If they said "we are doing this thing now, starting fresh, going forward for 2 years to tell this story and then we end it" I'd be pretty excited. If authors could decide which villain to use and not having to write every existing villain into the story just because they are popular and the IPs have to be used.

So, Ultimate 2.0?
 

Nesotenso

Member
My take on it was that Slott was going to the extreme with Parker Industries in Worldwide because he knew Spider-man was going to be going back to the basics in the upcoming event. Basically he went as crazy as he could because at the end it would all get reset anyway. Worldwide has been a super fun ride so far but it doesnt really suit Spider-man that well imo.

But even the execution has been crap. And this Spider-man as mascot/bodyguard shit was just stupid.

Seriously Slott's writing can be so clumsy at times. Just look at the introduction of Silk.
 
And this is why Comics aren't ever going to improve.

There will never be experimentation or a change in status quo. Things just remain the same in perpetuity in both of the big two perpetual attempts at bringing in new readership.
 
You know what? I'm fine with this IF


1. Peter own the Bugle now, and he was forced to downgrade because as CEO of Parker Industries, he spent too much money and time saving people

and

2. The new owners of PI (presumably now under a new name) are the two people he truly fucked over the most on the way up:


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and

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Blues1990

Member
It’s a return to the scrappy underdog status that’s the Peter Parker we all know and love.

Fuuuuck. Off.

Seriously, this is why I stopped reading comics for a lot of years. These aren't actual story characters, sadly, they're corporate logos. They can't develop or progress, not for long. They always HAVE to be reset every few years back to whatever early part of their story they think people are most familiar with.

Hey Marvel? If you're going to tell stories about Peter Parker the guy who works at the Bugle and struggles to make ends meet? We've already read that. Many many many times.

We have a scrappy underdog/college student/girl problems Spider-Man already, too. His name is Miles. We don't need to regress Peter (even though we knew it was inevitable).

I feel you, man. It's part of the reason why I prefer one-shots when I get a hankering for some superhero comics, but I've otherwise been sticking to what Europe has offered in sequential comics.
 
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