Marvel Studios’ Thunderbolts* | Teaser Trailer | Only In Theaters May 2025

Just saw it in IMAX
It was alright, basically just a giant setup movie, so not much happens really, feels more like a highly condensed version of what was supposed to be a tv show.

There was a pretty nice custom fantastic 4 IMAX countdown sequence, been a while since the last custom one.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
Just saw it in IMAX
It was alright, basically just a giant setup movie, so not much happens really, feels more like a highly condensed version of what was supposed to be a tv show.

There was a pretty nice custom fantastic 4 IMAX countdown sequence, been a while since the last custom one.
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I didnt think this movie ever looked good. And it seems to be mediocre. I am passed the point where I feel the need to see every marvel movie.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
Just saw it in IMAX
It was alright, basically just a giant setup movie, so not much happens really, feels more like a highly condensed version of what was supposed to be a tv show.

There was a pretty nice custom fantastic 4 IMAX countdown sequence, been a while since the last custom one.
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What? You mean it isn't the most critically acclaimed marvel film in 6 years?

What could it possibly be setting up?
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
I'm not sure if you're actually asking me a question or just shitposting.
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Early 'reviews' imply its awesome. If the film is just 'ho-hum' then its yet another example of why early reviews should be viewed with great skepticism.

And I was serious about what it could be setting up. This film was already 'set up' but Black Widow and Falcon and Winter Soldier, so it ought to be a complete experience, but you feel it is not. I'm worried Marvel gets stuck in a loop of constant "intro characters and tease next big thing" because they are so worried that the stepping stone films/shows aren't getting enough exposure that they feel they must perpetually relaunch the characters. All the films leading up to IW/Endgame were complete stories, even if they teased other things.
 
jason10mm said:
And I was serious about what it could be setting up. This film was already 'set up' but Black Widow and Falcon and Winter Soldier, so it ought to be a complete experience, but you feel it is not.
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The movie has them become the thunderbolts and then they actually become the New Avengers, kinda like how the tv show falcon and the winter soldier became captain america and the winter soldier.
Then the movie fast forwards to the future and now it seems to be setting up some clash between the New Avengers and the Avengers, while also mentioning some shit happening in space, and then finally The fantastic four hop from their dimension and arrive in 616, galactus hot on their heels no doubt.

This is while the movie itself is just basically a bit therapy session for the thunderbolts, I didn't think it was bad, I wasn't bored, and there was some cool stuff there, but it barely moves forward during the runtime.
 
I'll catch it when it hits disney+ , it''s gonna take alot for me to enjoy Florence Pugh or whatever her character is, she's become a bit insufferable,

people shit on Tom Holland in being in everything but no one bats an eye at her, and like Tom she's not very good at the ol acting thing.

I am however interested to see Lewis Pullman enter the frey, seems like one of those actors who is heading for popularity like a Hemsworth. He was decent in Topgun although not a huge role and the Outer Range.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
The movie has them become the thunderbolts and then they actually become the New Avengers, kinda like how the tv show falcon and the winter soldier became captain america and the winter soldier.
Then the movie fast forwards to the future and now it seems to be setting up some clash between the New Avengers and the Avengers, while also mentioning some shit happening in space, and then finally The fantastic four hop from their dimension and arrive in 616, galactus hot on their heels no doubt.

This is while the movie itself is just basically a bit therapy session for the thunderbolts, I didn't think it was bad, I wasn't bored, and there was some cool stuff there, but it barely moves forward during the runtime.
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Can you please tell me how they beat Bob.
 
jason10mm said:
Early 'reviews' imply it's awesome. If the film is just 'ho-hum' then it's yet another example of why early reviews should be viewed with great skepticism.
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Not really applicable here as we're past the "early" stage of critic reviews now and it's only dropped to 89% which is still quite high.

This isn't aimed at you, jason, the issue I'm having is the inconsistency of which group and such we're apparently supposed to "trust" when it comes to films. With Captain America Brave New World, a bunch of people on that thread were more than willing to post the RT critic average, and yet those people in that thread "conveniently" avoided posting the audience average, which was at 82% for quite a while (now down to 78%).

Now, the narrative is flipped, and we're not supposed to "trust" the critics for Thunderbolts.

I think people need to stop throwing out these absolute statements like "the critics don't know what they're talking about as usual!", "you can't trust early reviews!", "the audience rating can be trusted, they're not biased!", etc. because inevitably people who say these things will end up contradicting their statements at some point.

At the end of the day, the image below is the actual truth we should all accept:

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And really, the "form my own opinion" statement is what one should always do. Not one other individual in existence is going to have the exact same tastes as you, and one could end up missing some stuff you might have really enjoyed if they just blindly trust positive or negative opinions of others on said stuff.
 
Doom85 said:
Not really applicable here as we're past the "early" stage of critic reviews now and it's only dropped to 89% which is still quite high.

This isn't aimed at you, jason, the issue I'm having is the inconsistency of which group and such we're apparently supposed to "trust" when it comes to films. With Captain America Brave New World, a bunch of people on that thread were more than willing to post the RT critic average, and yet those people in that thread "conveniently" avoided posting the audience average, which was at 82% for quite a while (now down to 78%).

Now, the narrative is flipped, and we're not supposed to "trust" the critics for Thunderbolts.

I think people need to stop throwing out these absolute statements like "the critics don't know what they're talking about as usual!", "you can't trust early reviews!", "the audience rating can be trusted, they're not biased!", etc. because inevitably people who say these things will end up contradicting their statements at some point.

At the end of the day, the image below is the actual truth we should all accept:

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And really, the "form my own opinion" statement is what one should always do. Not one other individual in existence is going to have the exact same tastes as you, and one could end up missing some stuff you might have really enjoyed if they just blindly trust positive or negative opinions of others on said stuff.
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I watched Captain America Brave New World recently. I didn't hate it but the movie had lot of issues when it came to the plot. I also didn't like how the main villain looked, they really botched that one. That looked really bad. But I found no hints at all of wokeness which is what lot of people were complaining about weirdly enough

I just thought the movie was OK
 
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt said:
I just thought the movie was OK
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Just okay? But you told me you gave it a B!

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Just kidding, of course, it's cool if you changed your mind on it a bit.

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Also, the villain's design was not great, but the original design they ended up scrapping looked worse IMHO, kind of like Hector Hammond in Green Lantern (2011). So I felt we got the lesser of two evils, and we didn't have to see him that much in the film anyway. The highlight in terms of antagonists was always going to be Red Hulk even if Ross isn't a full on villain.
 
Doom85 said:
Just okay? But you told me you gave it a B!

Lies Liar GIF
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B-

Who knows it might turn into a C Grade by the end of 2025 👀

Doom85 said:
Just kidding, of course, it's cool if you changed your mind on it a bit.

Robert Downey Jr Ok GIF
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I tend to change my ratings after thinking about a show/movie after a while

Doom85 said:
Also, the villain's design was not great, but the original design they ended up scrapping looked worse IMHO, kind of like Hector Hammond in Green Lantern (2011). So I felt we got the lesser of two evils, and we didn't have to see him that much in the film anyway. The highlight in terms of antagonists was always going to be Red Hulk even if Ross isn't a full on villain.
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I didn't hate the movie. I found with the Red Hulk part near the end, that the CGI background was bad. It becomes noticeable especially when they show them in closeup..That definitely needed more work done. And I'm usually not one to complain about Green Screen but that part was noticeable

Than there's Anthony Mackie. I'm sorry but he can't do serious roles well. He's better as a comedic character. If anything, they should have went with more of comedic personality with him as Captain America. Someone like Denzel Washington and Chadwick Boseman can pull off serious leading man roles, Anthony Mackie can't

As for The Leader, I'm very disappointed due to how big of a fan I am of the actor plus the way he looked in that film, yeah not a fan. I already know why they did that but it is still disappointing for me

Also The Leader way of mind control reminded me of Xemnu with the use of cell phones. Not a complaint, just something I noticed after finishing reading The Immortal Hulk. I thought that was cool that's all

My other issue is the other villain

This guy

breaking bad GIF by Stan.


He's a good actor but he's typecast as a bad guy in everything he does

Than there's that midget ex Black Widow who was the body guard of Ross. I'm sorry I couldn't take the part of her take men who are much bigger than her. Hell that fight scene with ScarJo Vs all those men was much better in the way it was shot and how the punches looked than this scene. Especially when she did the leg thing with one of the guys. I was like really that looked fake as hell

Lot of the action sequences were forgettable which is a surprise to me. Since lot of times MCU Action Sequences are usually memorable and I can remember what happens after watching them.

As for the good parts

I'm happy that adamantium is finally being talked about

One of the only Action Sequences I remember and loved is the scene where there are at that Celestial body in the Indian Ocean. And The Leader is trying to start a war. That CGI was great and it was a tense sequence

Harrison Ford as Ross was great. You could tell he was having fun. Also man Red Hulk looked GREAT

I really liked that Latino actor who Sam gave the wingsuit to. Forgot his name. Also the chemistry between him and Sam was great even when the jokes didn't land

As for CGI overall, it looked great



As for ranking

Captain America Civil War
Captain America The Winter Soldier
Captain America Brave New World
Captain America The First Avenger
 
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Damn, this movie is actually pretty good. Definitely the best MCU movie since Endgame imo. I didn't care about any of these characters but the film is just better at nailing the emotional beats and character moments than any of their recent output.

Edit: Actually, I do like Deadpool & Wolverine quite a bit and I may have enjoyed BP2 more than most. That said, I've found the rest mostly forgettable.
 
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kindaGoth said:
Damn, this movie is actually pretty good. Definitely the best MCU movie since Endgame imo. I didn't care about any of these characters but the film is just better at nailing the emotional beats and character moments than any of their recent output.
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That's good to hear

One of my issues with MCU Post Phase 3 is that they have been just releasing stuff just because especially with characters no one really cares about. If they can make me care about the Thunderbolts than they did a good job especially with the writing
 
Doom85 said:
Not really applicable here as we're past the "early" stage of critic reviews now and it's only dropped to 89% which is still quite high.

This isn't aimed at you, jason, the issue I'm having is the inconsistency of which group and such we're apparently supposed to "trust" when it comes to films. With Captain America Brave New World, a bunch of people on that thread were more than willing to post the RT critic average, and yet those people in that thread "conveniently" avoided posting the audience average, which was at 82% for quite a while (now down to 78%).

Now, the narrative is flipped, and we're not supposed to "trust" the critics.
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My issue with "the critics" is there are so many now and they have little to no track record of credibility. The reviews now are often from groups with no attribution to a specific person or it's a rotating pool of nobodies where you can't look at their past choices to see if their opinion aligns with yours.

Plus there are CLEAR deficits in criticism of a lot of big tentpole films because these random critics need access and are willing to trade their credibility in for it. Even the type of movie review we get is impaired and inferior, they are totally unwilling to call dogshit when it's obvious.

Even audience reviews are largely sus these days because it's just a matter of money to bot farm them, particularly in the initial days.

The whole system is failing, which is why I tend to rely more on reviews from here than most anywhere else.
 
jason10mm said:
My issue with "the critics" is there are so many now and they have little to no track record of credibility. The reviews now are often from groups with no attribution to a specific person or it's a rotating pool of nobodies where you can't look at their past choices to see if their opinion aligns with yours.

Plus there are CLEAR deficits in criticism of a lot of big tentpole films because these random critics need access and are willing to trade their credibility in for it. Even the type of movie review we get is impaired and inferior, they are totally unwilling to call dogshit when it's obvious.

Even audience reviews are largely sus these days because it's just a matter of money to bot farm them, particularly in the initial days.

The whole system is failing, which is why I tend to rely more on reviews from here than most anywhere else.
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I never listen to rottentomatoes critics scores and audience scores. I tend to make my own opinion on whether I like it or not by watching it. Hell there's lot of movies I loved that both critics and the general audiences hated. It's pretty subjective
 
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Dynomite said:
I didnt think this movie ever looked good. And it seems to be mediocre. I am passed the point where I feel the need to see every marvel movie.
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Yeah I just dont get it? Like who is excited for this constant schlock they keep feeding us? Like what exactly do people think there missing out on if they miss this?
 
jason10mm said:
The whole system is failing, which is why I tend to rely more on reviews from here than most anywhere else.
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See, to me, that's even worse. Message boards tend to attract the more extreme opinionated and biased individuals especially when it comes to an established IP, so to me it's the worst roll of a dice for an impartial opinion even compared to most critics and general audience scores. Not saying they can't have their opinions too, but I would just personally find them the least reliable out of all of them.
 
Thunderballs? Thunderbirds? I have no idea what this is. Looks like Netflix budget version of Avengers. Mainly because of the dim and flat lighting.

Pass on the theatrical but I'll stream it.
 
jason10mm said:
My issue with "the critics" is there are so many now and they have little to no track record of credibility. The reviews now are often from groups with no attribution to a specific person or it's a rotating pool of nobodies where you can't look at their past choices to see if their opinion aligns with yours.

Plus there are CLEAR deficits in criticism of a lot of big tentpole films because these random critics need access and are willing to trade their credibility in for it. Even the type of movie review we get is impaired and inferior, they are totally unwilling to call dogshit when it's obvious.

Even audience reviews are largely sus these days because it's just a matter of money to bot farm them, particularly in the initial days.

The whole system is failing, which is why I tend to rely more on reviews from here than most anywhere else.
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And yet you used a single post in a thread on a random forum as a "gotcha" about critics.

Everyone has their own opinions, critic reviews are only so useful, and they are more useful to people whose views tend to match the average critic. It's not that serious and it's not really a system that can be fixed as "user reviews" are just endlessly brigaded:

Movies aren't such a time or money sink that this is all that important. They are like $5 to rent if you just wait 90 days and often included in streaming subs especially if you have any sort of patience.
 
When they revealed both Captain America and this movie, I knew deep down that this was going to be the better movie.

Marvel tends to let the creators be a bit more creative and take narrative/directorial risks when it's about characters they feel are not the 'stars of the show' which the star in this case would technically be Captain America. It doesn't always work out (Eternals) but it can lead to something that feels new or different at times.
 
IntentionalPun said:
And yet you used a single post in a thread on a random forum as a "gotcha" about critics.
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Dude, this topic have been discussed FOR YEARS on this forum, this thread is just the latest example.

IntentionalPun said:
Everyone has their own opinions, critic reviews are only so useful, and they are more useful to people whose views tend to match the average critic. It's not that serious and it's not really a system that can be fixed as "user reviews" are just endlessly brigaded:

Movies aren't such a time or money sink that this is all that important. They are like $5 to rent if you just wait 90 days and often included in streaming subs especially if you have any sort of patience.
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I don't think you understand the role movie critic are supposed to play in society. In order to avoid wasting time and save money, you align with a critic whose opinion you trust to then baes your decisions whether to see a film or not. In "the old days" of just 3-4 critics with any national repute you could do this and those critics would live or die based on the "correctness" of their opinion. Siskel and Ebert couldn't shamelessly shill for every expensive Universal film because it would kill their credibility for all their other recommendations and their paper or TV show would suffer. They HAD to be critical and slam shit films when they saw them.

But now that system is all gone. There are no nationally recognized critics with any real credibility. They ALL shill for their $$$, or the "critics agree!!" PR is coming from randos no one would give a shit about individually but they get aggregated together as if a herd perspective somehow gives legitimacy.

Good films still get recognized as good. Its the shit films that aren't getting called out for being shit like they should.
 
CGNoire said:
Its the using your wallet to vote for mediocrity that bothers me because of its implications on the industry not because Im irritated that people enjoy it.
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Mediocrity is subjective. I found Avatar 2 extremely mediocre in its script and pacing, but I'm not irritated that it absolutely dominated at the box office. If people loved it, more power to them.
 
I thought it was pretty damn solid. Not perfect, but worth seeing in theaters.

First 30 minutes or so were a bit slow, but once it gets going it's engaging and sometimes quite emotional. I like how it deals with mental illness / depression, felt like it actually had some depth and emotion when compared to most recent MCU outings.

Also appreciated the focus on practical effects instead of CGI. Bob was fantastic, and Yelena made a great lead for the movie. The ending definitely got me excited for the future. The entire third act was fantastic, especially the visuals, and the fact that they went with something original.

8 / 10
 
Saw it last night. I was too tired to post as my bed time (now) is usually around 10. Yes, I'm an old man now.

I loved the characters... Got a bit more from Ghost (wondered what happened to her), Valentina was a great villain (she's never come off as a good person), I felt sorry for Walker, Bucky was great as usual ... I missed a few things because my bladder was not working with me. Yelena was a standout! But BOB! YO!

The mid credit scene was slightly funny but the end credit scene, which was around 3 minutes long, was GREAT!

Me and my big brother enjoyed it.
 
Saw this last night. I was hoping it woild be good but it ended up being much better than I expected. Very strong outing for the MCU. The ending is abrupt but theres a reason why.

The emotional throughline the film presents with Yelena at its center is really well done, and Florence carries the film. But other cast do ther thing too. Winter Soldier is especially fun here. The banter hits more than it misses, and the action scenes are all pretty great.

Probably gonna double back and see this one again.
 
Watched it today and really had a lot of fun with it. The final fight could have been a bit better but it was still entertaining. So much better than brave new world.
 
Doom85 said:
Had you read beforehand comics involving this character, or was this all a surprise for you? (I'm seeing it tomorrow, but the trailers seemed to indicate they were following the general concept of the character)
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Oh I knew about it... They kinda changed HOW he got his powers but I already knew about and his superhero name (I don't think he's a hero, IMO... Antihero yes)... very comics accurate suit tho!
 
Saw it last night and enjoyed it quite a bit. It was the best Marvel movie I've seen in a while.
I really liked how they handled things like trauma, abuse, and bipolar disorder
 
Just got back from seeing it. I liked it. It's not mind-blowing, but it's enjoyable enough and better than their last few. I haven't kept up with most of the Disney+ stuff, so I was probably out of the loop on a few things. For example, I never watched Falcon and the Winter Soldier, so this was my first time seeing John Walker in anything.

I liked that it's about something. The depression stuff isn't exactly subtle, but after the turbo-slop of Deadpool & Wolverine, it was refreshing to see one of these that's at least going for something. On a meta level, whether they meant it or not, it's kind of interesting that they made a movie about being in a slump.

The cast is solid, with Florence Pugh as the standout who carries it. Ghost didn't have much presence compared to the rest. Maybe because of that she just seemed to be in the background not doing much most of the time and they don't do much with her ability. That stood out because there's a joke about how most of the team just punches and shoots, so her powers should have made her more distinct.

But yeah, a decent time overall.
 
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