Trogdor1123
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Wife and I are going this weekend. Will report back.
I didnt think this movie ever looked good. And it seems to be mediocre. I am passed the point where I feel the need to see every marvel movie.Just saw it in IMAX
It was alright, basically just a giant setup movie, so not much happens really, feels more like a highly condensed version of what was supposed to be a tv show.
There was a pretty nice custom fantastic 4 IMAX countdown sequence, been a while since the last custom one.
What? You mean it isn't the most critically acclaimed marvel film in 6 years?Just saw it in IMAX
It was alright, basically just a giant setup movie, so not much happens really, feels more like a highly condensed version of what was supposed to be a tv show.
There was a pretty nice custom fantastic 4 IMAX countdown sequence, been a while since the last custom one.
I'm not sure if you're actually asking me a question or just shitposting.What? You mean it isn't the most critically acclaimed marvel film in 6 years?
What could it possibly be setting up?
Early 'reviews' imply its awesome. If the film is just 'ho-hum' then its yet another example of why early reviews should be viewed with great skepticism.I'm not sure if you're actually asking me a question or just shitposting.
The movie has them become the thunderbolts and then they actually become the New Avengers, kinda like how the tv show falcon and the winter soldier became captain america and the winter soldier.And I was serious about what it could be setting up. This film was already 'set up' but Black Widow and Falcon and Winter Soldier, so it ought to be a complete experience, but you feel it is not.
The movie has them become the thunderbolts and then they actually become the New Avengers, kinda like how the tv show falcon and the winter soldier became captain america and the winter soldier.
Then the movie fast forwards to the future and now it seems to be setting up some clash between the New Avengers and the Avengers, while also mentioning some shit happening in space, and then finally The fantastic four hop from their dimension and arrive in 616, galactus hot on their heels no doubt.
This is while the movie itself is just basically a bit therapy session for the thunderbolts, I didn't think it was bad, I wasn't bored, and there was some cool stuff there, but it barely moves forward during the runtime.
They don't really, "a bit of a therapy session" is a hint to what happens.Can you please tell me how they beat Bob.
They don't really, "a bit of a therapy session" is a hint to what happens.
Do they? Is he?people shit on Tom Holland in being in everything
Early 'reviews' imply it's awesome. If the film is just 'ho-hum' then it's yet another example of why early reviews should be viewed with great skepticism.
Not really applicable here as we're past the "early" stage of critic reviews now and it's only dropped to 89% which is still quite high.
This isn't aimed at you, jason, the issue I'm having is the inconsistency of which group and such we're apparently supposed to "trust" when it comes to films. With Captain America Brave New World, a bunch of people on that thread were more than willing to post the RT critic average, and yet those people in that thread "conveniently" avoided posting the audience average, which was at 82% for quite a while (now down to 78%).
Now, the narrative is flipped, and we're not supposed to "trust" the critics for Thunderbolts.
I think people need to stop throwing out these absolute statements like "the critics don't know what they're talking about as usual!", "you can't trust early reviews!", "the audience rating can be trusted, they're not biased!", etc. because inevitably people who say these things will end up contradicting their statements at some point.
At the end of the day, the image below is the actual truth we should all accept:
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And really, the "form my own opinion" statement is what one should always do. Not one other individual in existence is going to have the exact same tastes as you, and one could end up missing some stuff you might have really enjoyed if they just blindly trust positive or negative opinions of others on said stuff.
I just thought the movie was OK
Can't handle a nose ring? Are you also from the 40's like Steve Rogers?
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Just okay? But you told me you gave it a B!
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Just kidding, of course, it's cool if you changed your mind on it a bit.
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Also, the villain's design was not great, but the original design they ended up scrapping looked worse IMHO, kind of like Hector Hammond in Green Lantern (2011). So I felt we got the lesser of two evils, and we didn't have to see him that much in the film anyway. The highlight in terms of antagonists was always going to be Red Hulk even if Ross isn't a full on villain.
Damn, this movie is actually pretty good. Definitely the best MCU movie since Endgame imo. I didn't care about any of these characters but the film is just better at nailing the emotional beats and character moments than any of their recent output.
My issue with "the critics" is there are so many now and they have little to no track record of credibility. The reviews now are often from groups with no attribution to a specific person or it's a rotating pool of nobodies where you can't look at their past choices to see if their opinion aligns with yours.Not really applicable here as we're past the "early" stage of critic reviews now and it's only dropped to 89% which is still quite high.
This isn't aimed at you, jason, the issue I'm having is the inconsistency of which group and such we're apparently supposed to "trust" when it comes to films. With Captain America Brave New World, a bunch of people on that thread were more than willing to post the RT critic average, and yet those people in that thread "conveniently" avoided posting the audience average, which was at 82% for quite a while (now down to 78%).
Now, the narrative is flipped, and we're not supposed to "trust" the critics.
My issue with "the critics" is there are so many now and they have little to no track record of credibility. The reviews now are often from groups with no attribution to a specific person or it's a rotating pool of nobodies where you can't look at their past choices to see if their opinion aligns with yours.
Plus there are CLEAR deficits in criticism of a lot of big tentpole films because these random critics need access and are willing to trade their credibility in for it. Even the type of movie review we get is impaired and inferior, they are totally unwilling to call dogshit when it's obvious.
Even audience reviews are largely sus these days because it's just a matter of money to bot farm them, particularly in the initial days.
The whole system is failing, which is why I tend to rely more on reviews from here than most anywhere else.
Yeah I just dont get it? Like who is excited for this constant schlock they keep feeding us? Like what exactly do people think there missing out on if they miss this?I didnt think this movie ever looked good. And it seems to be mediocre. I am passed the point where I feel the need to see every marvel movie.
Can't handle a nose ring? Are you also from the 40's like Steve Rogers?
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You can clearly see a buccal fat removal, nose job and some form of lifting below the yes, significantly changing her appearance.
The whole system is failing, which is why I tend to rely more on reviews from here than most anywhere else.
That's exactly what i did yesterday afternoon.wonder if i should watch this after work tomorrow in my work clothes or on saturday. on my day off
Its the using your wallet to vote for mediocrity that bothers me because of its implications on the industry not because Im irritated that people enjoy it.
And yet you used a single post in a thread on a random forum as a "gotcha" about critics.My issue with "the critics" is there are so many now and they have little to no track record of credibility. The reviews now are often from groups with no attribution to a specific person or it's a rotating pool of nobodies where you can't look at their past choices to see if their opinion aligns with yours.
Plus there are CLEAR deficits in criticism of a lot of big tentpole films because these random critics need access and are willing to trade their credibility in for it. Even the type of movie review we get is impaired and inferior, they are totally unwilling to call dogshit when it's obvious.
Even audience reviews are largely sus these days because it's just a matter of money to bot farm them, particularly in the initial days.
The whole system is failing, which is why I tend to rely more on reviews from here than most anywhere else.
Dude, this topic have been discussed FOR YEARS on this forum, this thread is just the latest example.And yet you used a single post in a thread on a random forum as a "gotcha" about critics.
I don't think you understand the role movie critic are supposed to play in society. In order to avoid wasting time and save money, you align with a critic whose opinion you trust to then baes your decisions whether to see a film or not. In "the old days" of just 3-4 critics with any national repute you could do this and those critics would live or die based on the "correctness" of their opinion. Siskel and Ebert couldn't shamelessly shill for every expensive Universal film because it would kill their credibility for all their other recommendations and their paper or TV show would suffer. They HAD to be critical and slam shit films when they saw them.Everyone has their own opinions, critic reviews are only so useful, and they are more useful to people whose views tend to match the average critic. It's not that serious and it's not really a system that can be fixed as "user reviews" are just endlessly brigaded:
Movies aren't such a time or money sink that this is all that important. They are like $5 to rent if you just wait 90 days and often included in streaming subs especially if you have any sort of patience.
Its the using your wallet to vote for mediocrity that bothers me because of its implications on the industry not because Im irritated that people enjoy it.
But BOB! YO!
Had you read beforehand comics involving this character, or was this all a surprise for you? (I'm seeing it tomorrow, but the trailers seemed to indicate they were following the general concept of the character)