MARVEL to cancel 'Uncanny X-Men', replace with 'Wolverine & the X-Men' and...
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arnoldocastillo2003
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remnant said:
Hahahaha yeah sorry, got some emotions going on.
Skilletor said:YOu wouldn't happen to have an issue number? About to head to the comic book store at lunch.
Magneto starts to play a big role in that title with Issue 231 which starts the proteus story. It is a tie-in to the Necrosha cross over, but is actually pretty self contained.
You can easily start there without reading Necrosha.
I know that Marvel will revert Magneto back to his arch-nemesis status quo before long, but I actually like him on the X-team. It's a nice change of pace to see him push his mutant agenda forward through words/suggestions (and subtle insubordination) rather than having him twirl his mustache as he plans to reverse the world's magnetic poles or something in an illogical plan to bring about mutant dominance.
bengraven said:
I know you mentioned Morrison (in a bad light?), but honestly: His run with "New X-men" is probably still my favorite part of the X-men universe. Of course, I'm slightly biased as it introduced "Fantomex"/Weapon "X"III.
Frankly, if they continued to focus on the new mutants growing up and them dealing with their powers and had a separate sidestory going into Fantomex's history in the Weapon X program/his "world" he came from, I'd be really interested. Though, I think they already did a Fantomex history story?
Slayven said:
Hope it is better than the Vulcan space stuff.
TheSeks said:
I think several of the younger characters introduced/featured in New X-men, Astonishing X-men, and New Mutants/New X-men Vol 2. were solid additions to the x-universe. It's too bad they are usually used as cannon fodder in the x-event of the month. No one introduced before 1990 is safe in the long term.
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TheSeks said:
Nope, a good light. Morrison's run is single-handedly my favorite fun of any superhero comic ever, with my second run being the first Marvel Boy series by...Morrison. He nailed the vibe and created a new vibe. I wasn't able to catch the last few storylines (I never got to read the Kid Omega and Xorn is Magneto stories for example) because I was living in a small town that literally stopped selling comics anywhere.
When Morrison left my local Walmart started selling the next guy's work and when I saw that guy completely erased everything really cool that Morrison did I was done.
It was the line in the first New X-men where Wolverine says "Good, I don't have to wear that crappy yellow jumpsuit anymore" as if he's hated it for years....then the new writer and artist bring back the yellow jumpsuit. That pissed me off.
I think I'm pretty much destined to jump ship to DC with Morrison and Jim Lee calling the shots now, considering how much of a fan I am of theirs.
Measley said:
People have been complaining about the wolverine fad for over 25 years now. At this point he is in the same (comics) popularity league as Batman or Spider-man, and as such will continue to be over-exposed, just like those two characters.
Most of the non-solo books featuring Wolverine use him as a supporting character, so I am not sure what the big deal is. Wolverine and the X-men is just the latest x-stunt that will last until the next event in summer 2012.
Escape Goat
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Who broke Xavier's legs again?
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methos75 said:
Maybe you should check out Archie line comics. They're a bit simpler to follow.
Marvel does a better job of assigning directions/purpose to their books than DC. Back in the late 90s we had so many books on the shelf it was just Marvel's entire library doing the same shit but in different books.
X-Men - Dealing with Hope and her role as the Messiah
Uncanny - Where Cyclops' team is fighting on the front line of the human/mutant "war".
X-Force - The black ops team. Violent and more slice and dice than soap operatics.
X-Factor - Not even a real team. They're unaffiliated with X-Men at this point. They solve mysteries for people that can pay.
methos75 said:
Well, I am not sure how much of this comes from irony and how much from the actual lack of reading comprehension skill (I know youths nowadays suffer from it quite extensively), but honestly, if you want to "get into" something, and cannot even put this much work into it...well, then you are perfectly fine with picking up the adjactiveless "X-Men", nothing confusing about that
And you are also getting VAMPIRES! ZOMBIES! PROBLEMS! EMMA(tm)!V_Arnold said:Well, I am not sure how much of this comes from irony and how much from the actual lack of reading comprehension skill (I know youths nowadays suffer from it quite extensively), but honestly, if you want to "get into" something, and cannot even put this much work into it...well, then you are perfectly fine with picking up the adjactiveless "X-Men", nothing confusing about that
Looks its not confusing to you because your keeping up, so the changes were small and incremental for you, hence you think it simple to follow. but to think it not confusing to someone who hasn't ever been a fan or someone like me who hasn't touched an X-Man comic in nearly 15 years is a really huge leap in both logic and reality, and is clearly an example of not applying intelligence to the situation.
For many, they might be tempted to look at a X-Man comic after seeing First Class or catching Wolverine and the X-Men on TV, these people will no doubt find the comics a weird illogical place compared to what brought them in to read the comic, and yes very confusing. Having multiple teams and so forth within an series has always been a really bad idea and hardly ever works within comics. West Coast avengers anyone? All these things do is break up the fanbase, they serve no functional positive benefit to retaining fans at all. I could see splitting the series into two or three different comics, but keep team integrity, splitting them up as they are doing just serves to drive new readers away
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X-Men.Furret said:
My first X-Men comic ever was X-men 66 or 67, which took place right in the middle of the Operation Zero Tolerance Cross-over. I don't remember having that hard a time breaking in, even though it was obvious that there were a lot of continuity things I was missing out on. That was simply incentive to delve into back issue bins.
methos75 said:
Eh, It's always worked for X-Men.
X-Men Gold (X-Men)
X-Men Blue (Uncanny X-Men)
X-Force
X-Factor
Generation X
etc...
It has been this way for quite some time and to think it hasn't is certainly revisionist history. Your complaint sounds like the comics are more intimidating than a 90 minute movie which, by necessity, will condense characters and stories from the source material.
You want to jump into an X-Book? Pick up a trade paper back. They're collected quite frequently now, and I"m sure you could find some older stories if you actually wanted to and aren't just complaining that the characters have changed a lot in the 15 years you haven't been keeping up.
SpiderJerusalem
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BachalooO! So good. I'm in for both
Skilletor said:
I think the big difference between the X-men and the Avengers is that most of the popular avengers have solo titles. Other than Wolverine, most X-men do not get solo titles, and when they do, they don't last very long. X-books are the only way to follow most mutant characters, and there are so many of them that you need multiple books to feature them all. A x-character might not have a big enough fanbase to support a solo book, but team up 5-6 of them and enough people will be interested.
The Broken Ska Record
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Don't forget that he used to be on the New Avengers and is currently in The Avengers.bathala said:
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God, just get rid of Emma and bring Jean back for Cyclops.
Then they can do whatever shit they want.
Then they can do whatever shit they want.
The Broken Ska Record said:
I forget, how many Avengers titles are there now? Weren't there like 4 or 5 post-Civil War? New Avengers was the first time started to follow Marvel with any seriousness and I'm really big into comics but it got to confusing after all. Granted Marvel was at least easier to follow then DC due to recaps but still it got to much that I just had to stop.
As for the new X-men titles. It's nice they finally just broke down and gave him top billing like that. Worked well for the TV show. Wish that had continued. That was good. Anyone know if it ever actually got an ending or if it just ended with them thinking they might be getting a third season?
WordAssassin
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That promo shot with the two teams..
There's... something about the art that I like. Who is the artist? I wanna check out more of their stuff to see if this is some kind of fluke.
There's... something about the art that I like. Who is the artist? I wanna check out more of their stuff to see if this is some kind of fluke.
comedy bomb
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I'll give them a shot.
I'm currently only reading Avengers, Future Foundation, Fear Itself and Thor. A couple of X books and the Avenging Spider-Man in the fall shouldn't break the bank.
I'm currently only reading Avengers, Future Foundation, Fear Itself and Thor. A couple of X books and the Avenging Spider-Man in the fall shouldn't break the bank.
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Just got to say you flipped the Gold and Blue teams. Blue team was Cykes, and Gold was Storms.Skilletor said:
kswiston said:
Honestly, Marvel should pick a side for Magneto and stick with it.
I loved the way Chris Claremont reformed Magneto over the course of roughly 50 issues in Uncanny X-Men. And I thought it was great Magneto took over the New Mutants and was working to improve himself.
Then John Byrne and Louise Simonson changed him back in an issue. Now the guy's a yo-yo, and it's absolutely a joke.
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