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[Ryce]

I get what you're saying about Jill, but some of those others confuse me.

Mega Man: Faithful animations and classic MM weapon references. I'll give you Hyper Megaman seems weird and makes no sense. Rush Drill is based of Casshern's Friender Drill who Mega Man and Rush are based off of AND was originally supposed to debut in MM3. Beat Plane > Friender Jet.

Tron: Aside from King Servbot, she seems pretty faithful to her game to me.

Jin: This I'll agree with. He's basically like the VS equivalent of Captain Falcon

Iron Man/Magneto: Eh, I'm not sure what you're expecting exactly...?

Sentinel: Same as above, except I'm not sure where "Hyper Sentinel Force" comes from.

Shuma: Yeah, as people have said time and time again, Capcom just loved the idea of making a character out of an Alien Squid/Octopus thing and not much else.

Mega Man - He just seems like a ton of wasted potential. Compare Smash Bros. Mega Man to MvC Mega Man. The character has dozens and dozens of weapons at his disposal, yet Capcom decided to give him a soccer ball over any number of more iconic abilities. His standard move set didn't need to consist entirely of punches and kicks.

Tron - The MvC2 Gustaff is green and looks completely different than the MML version (not just in size and scale but the overall design as well). I enjoy using Tron, but I'm just pointing out how much of an original character she is in MvC -- she's piloting a brand new mech.

Iron Man - The Proton Cannon appeared in a single comic panel before MvC. Iron Man very rarely uses the Unibeam in the comics, but the dev team went with that over his incredibly common (and now iconic) hand beam. I still don't even know what Repulsor Blast is supposed to be.

Magneto - When I think of Magneto, I don't think of a speedster doing can-can kicks and hand beams.

Sentinel - CoTA Sentinel is an original character with a brand new design who does things that none of the comic Sentinels do.

 

[vg260]

Iron Man - The Proton Cannon appeared in a single comic panel before MvC. Iron Man very rarely uses the Unibeam in the comics, but the dev team went with that over his incredibly common (and now iconic) hand beam. I still don't even know what Repulsor Blast is supposed to be.

I wonder what Cap, Hulk, Iron Man and Spidey would be like if they designed them for the first time today.

I'd bet Iron Man would have a much different set of specials and super.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

To each their own I guess. While the moves arent 100% references, they still feel true to the characters. I can appreciate the Smash approach and the Capcom approach as well.

Except Shuma cuz yeah.

Edit:well actually, we do still get some dimensional fuckery with Shuma. His normals are largely just tentacle fun.

 

[Ryce]

To each their own I guess. While the moves arent 100% references, they still feel true to the characters. I can appreciate the Smash approach and the Capcom approach as well.

I don't necessarily believe that they have to be 100% referential (that would be impossible, especially on the Marvel side), but there's definitely a difference in quality between the old Marvel characters and the ones introduced in MvC3.

I will say that Capcom has been doing a pretty good job of slowly making certain characters feel more like they should. Magneto's Attraction/Repulsion/Gravitation really helped his presentation in UMvC3, and Iron Man's new Repulsor Ray and gauntlet missile are much appreciated.

 

[Neoxon]

In the case of Iron Man, we've had nods to the Proton Cannon in future comics & cartoons. And now Iron Man has received some new moves that feel more in line with how he's represented today (Ex: Repulsor Ray, a new missile projectile).

 

[Doctrine Dark]

I know it's just a blocking animation, but when's the last Iron Man actually used a shield like that?

 

[vg260]

In the case of Iron Man, we've had nods to the Proton Cannon in future comics & cartoons. And now Iron Man has received some new moves that feel more in line with how he's represented today (Ex: Repulsor Ray, a new missile projectile).

What is the new missile projectile? I didn't see it in the trailer.

 

[mooncakes]

I kinda want Tony to have the homing missiles from the Avengers movie.

 

[Neoxon]

What is the new missile projectile? I didn't see it in the trailer.

Look closely at Iron Man during this.

 

[christiankid7]

I'd love to have tony have a hyper like Felicia or Firebrand where the Iron Legion (or just one additional Iron Man armor) appears and starts attacking with Tony.

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I guess it could be War Machine but....I'd rather have him as his own character

 

[PSqueak]

I get what you're saying about Jill, but some of those others confuse me.

Mega Man: Faithful animations and classic MM weapon references. I'll give you Hyper Megaman seems weird and makes no sense. Rush Drill is based of Casshern's Friender Drill who Mega Man and Rush are based off of AND was originally supposed to debut in MM3. Beat Plane > Friender Jet.

You justify Rush Drill and Beat Plane because they were anime references but Hyper Megaman and Hyper Roll being nods to Mazinger Z and Venus A don't get a pass?

 

[Choppasmith]

Mega Man - He just seems like a ton of wasted potential. Compare Smash Bros. Mega Man to MvC Mega Man. The character has dozens and dozens of weapons at his disposal, yet Capcom decided to give him a soccer ball over any number of more iconic abilities. His standard move set didn't need to consist entirely of punches and kicks.

I agree, the Rock Ball was LAAAAME. But then MM8 came out around that time, and I think they were really trying to push it (but then WHY did they need a weapon like that in the first place is beyond me)

Tron - The MvC2 Gustaff is green and looks completely different than the MML version (not just in size and scale but the overall design as well). I enjoy using Tron, but I'm just pointing out how much of an original character she is in MvC -- she's piloting a brand new mech.

I forgot she was completely covered in MoTB, and not using the original red as default was a weird decision, I think they left it uncovered so you could see more of Tron's personality and emotions. I still can't agree that she has an "original character with references slapped on"

Iron Man - The Proton Cannon appeared in a single comic panel before MvC. Iron Man very rarely uses the Unibeam in the comics, but the dev team went with that over his incredibly common (and now iconic) hand beam. I still don't even know what Repulsor Blast is supposed to be.

Magneto - When I think of Magneto, I don't think of a speedster doing can-can kicks and hand beams.

Sentinel - CoTA Sentinel is an original character with a brand new design who does things that none of the comic Sentinels do.

Fair enough. And I agree, TvC and MvC3 have done justice to new characters a lot better than MvC2 and prior.

EDIT:

You justify Rush Drill and Beat Plane because they were anime references but Hyper Megaman and Hyper Roll being nods to Mazinger Z and Venus A don't get a pass?

I'm not the most knowledgeable about classic Anime And then like I said, at least Rush Drill makes sense BECAUSE it was a scrapped MM3 concept.

 

[vg260]

Look closely at Iron Man during this.

Oh, cool. Totally missed that.

A new blocking animation would nice too.

 

[christiankid7]

Not asking for her, but I wonder how Capcom would do Rescue, since its an Iron Man suit with no offensive weaponry except the repulsors and now sonic attacks I believe....I'd like to see how creative Capcom would be with that.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

I was really hoping Iron Man would've gotten at least 1 new hyper. Since all of his hypers from MVC3 seem to be intact, the most we can look forward to is new special moves.

The one hand Repulsor, Rocket Wrist, and improved launcher look good so far at least.

 

[christiankid7]

If we're getting new moves Hulk should get his thunderclap as a hyper or special. I mean he had something like it in the air, but its not as impressive as the thunderclap

EDIT: Why is Hulk wearing gloves in this picture?

 

[JediLink]

Ideal SF representation would be to dump both Ryu and Chun and only have Akuma and Juri. Sucks that Ryu is already confirmed.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

What if Vulture made it? How would he play?

I just imagined him with a pseudo Ken the Eagle moveset. No Bird-Ring, of course. I could totally see him with Ken the Eagle's rushing hyper.

 

[christiankid7]

What if Vulture made it? How would he play?

I just imagined him with a pseudo Ken the Eagle moveset. No Bird-Ring, of course. I could totally see him with Ken the Eagle's rushing hyper.

Normally they give him some sort of feather-based sharp projectile.....uh....he could do a lot of swooping???


Falcon would probably be better

 

[Doctrine Dark]

Yeah, I could imagine him having a feather projectile.

The main reason why I thought of him was because of Spider-Man Homecoming. I'd like to think Spidey's gallery has much more capable villains than him. Niitsuma had said the only other villain they would've been able to use (after Ock was scrapped) was Lizard. I hope we don't have a situation like that here. Shocker's cool, but doesn't seem like a good pick for MVC.

 

[christiankid7]

Yeah, I could imagine him having a feather projectile.

The main reason why I thought of him was because of Spider-Man Homecoming. I'd like to think Spidey's gallery has much more capable villains than him. Niitsuma had said the only other villain they would've been able to use (after Ock was scrapped) was Lizard. I hope we don't have a situation like that here. Shocker's cool, but doesn't seem like a good pick for MVC.

better than vulture.....

they could go with the Shattered Dimensions Noir Vulture, who teleported a lot and slashed you in the face with his claws. He also liked to have people for dinner.

And where did you hear that?

 

[Doctrine Dark]

I was wrong:

Niitsuma: We were trying to avoid the color green.... just kidding. Elements involving the Spider-man universe are delicate, and Dr. Octopus was considered before Green Goblin was.

9q_: Somehow I can understand the use of the word "delicate" to describe the Spider-man universe... Thanks for holding this interesting discussion!

Niitsuma: No problem, glad to be of assistance to various requests.

MAMESpider: Considering the subject of movies, Lizard was never considered as a candidate???

Niitsuma: Hm, that idea wasn't considered very much. When we considered pushing universes, it was decided that "The Avengers" would get a stronger push than the Spider-man universe.

MAMESpider had brought up Lizard. Niitsuma just said it wasn't really considered.

 

[christiankid7]

I was wrong:



MAMESpider had brought up Lizard. Niitsuma just said it wasn't really considered.

I was just about to post that conversation

Elements involving the Spider-Man universe are delicate...hmm.....I wonder if that's referencing the idea that Marvel was going to phase out Spidey like the others if Sony didn't work with them....

Although I remember faintly there was the whole "Activision might have the Spider-man game rights which means Spider-man won't be in MVC3" discussion years ago. Could have been about that

 

[Doctrine Dark]

That's what I think it was about, honestly. I remember when most people were convinced Spidey wasn't going to be in. Good times.

 

[shaowebb]

Needs more sound effect panels in this game's combos and supers.

 

[Neoxon]

Can we just get Yusuke Murata do to the cover for MvCI?

 

[christiankid7]

I'd love any art right now.

Man, if GALACTUS is behind them....what kind of unholy monstrosity are they actually fighting in that art

 

[Neoxon]

I'd love any art right now.

Hopefully we'll get more art in the coming months. It was one of my favorite things about the (U)MvC3 Hype Train.

 

[Dusk Golem]

Mr. Horror Enthusiast chiming into the Resident Evil roster talk, there's no way RE doesn't have at least two representatives, three I think is the most likely number, maybe it'll get to four (with the Ultimate Edition & DLC of MvC3, RE did get to four reps). I think when considering who it's gonna' be, you have to consider what best helps Capcom's marketing goals, what would best help sell MvC3, and what would help make a more interesting and varied roster.

I am pretty certain Leon or Claire are going to be the 'poster child' RE character to replace Chris from the original game. With REmake 2 on the horizon and Leon being tied with Chris as the most popular character in the franchise, I think he's a pretty safe bet. Claire stands a chance too, but I think more would recognize and be excited by Leon.

I can't see them removing Wesker, not only is Wesker one of the most popular RE characters from the series history, he was also immensely popular in Marvel vs Capcom 3, and due to his abilities he's more versatile to create an interesting moveset for. I really can't see them tossing away Wesker from the character roster, he's a series fan favorite, was a popular character in the last entry, and compared to other RE characters he has a pretty unique moveset.

It's after this it gets tougher. by design, a lot of RE characters movesets can get pretty samey since... Well, in the game's they're -mostly- normal people with guns. But the series does have a lot of popular characters and monsters, so then it becomes something of a guessing game.

Resident Evil 7 releases and they may want to celebrate that with a character, but without playing RE7 it's a bit hard to say. Ethan is meant to not be a superhero, so I'm kind of ruling him out. As many had suggested, Jack Baker is one possibility. Plus the idea of just playing as some regenerating Hillbilly father who cackles and makes all sorts of weird contraptions in a game full of superheroes just seems like a fun slot to me. It's a bit hard to say before RE7 comes out which character from RE7 would be the best pick though. While I love Nemesis, I have my doubts he'll return. Outside of Leon they may very well choose another protagonist, but who and how to diversify them well is the question.

 

[PSqueak]

Needs more sound effect panels in this game's combos and supers.

So far other than Deadpool, Spider-man, She-Hulk and Phoenix Wright, who has any?

 

[christiankid7]

Spider-man had visual sound effects? I mean he and venom had speech bubbles but..

 

[Doctrine Dark]

The fact that we haven't gotten any silhouettes is a downer. I loved that about MVC3.

 

[Tirael]

Now that I think about it, what the heck would Shuma do in the story? Woo Hsien-Ko?

Taken seriously, he's a really powerful being.

Wow, who do you think that is? Ultros?

... Well okay then.

 

[christiankid7]

Wow, who do you think that is? Ultros?



... Well okay then.

I'm sure Shuma is much classier than Ultros,

Spoiler

though I had to look him up

I can't stop picturing Shuma banging on HsienKo's window with a boombox in one of his tentacles and a giant tear coming out of his eye

But seriously, Shuma is insanely powerful. I mean, I could see a Capcom villain taking over Strange's mind and making him summon Shuma as a massive threat to be taken out super fast before he established a position on the planet. But I don't see how he could be playable in the story....

 

[Doctrine Dark]

I could totally see Shuma being more of a joke than a terrifying villain in the story, though.

Remember the ending where he was eating dinner with Dhalsim and his family? I feel like he was always the perfect balance of menacing and funny in the VS series.

 

[Jaeger]

Can we just get Yusuke Murata do to the cover for MvCI?

Godlike.

 

[christiankid7]

I could totally see Shuma being more of a joke than a terrifying villain in the story, though.

Remember the ending where he was eating dinner with Dhalsim and his family? I feel like he was always the perfect balance of menacing and funny in the VS series.

How about him hosting a Japanese game show in MVC3

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

Can we just get Yusuke Murata do to the cover for MvCI?

Yes please!
I know I said this already but I find it weird that there's no artwork for this game yet.

 

[Neoxon]

Yes please!
I know I said this already but I find it weird that there's no artwork for this game yet.

I'd also accept Alex Ross.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

How about him hosting a Japanese game show in MVC3

Now I need for this to be a reality.

 

[Neoxon]

If Ms. Marvel gets in, I foresee a ton of confusion from people who don't follow the comics.

 

[DedValve]

Now that I think about it, what the heck would Shuma do in the story? Woo Hsien-Ko?

Taken seriously, he's a really powerful being.

B leader of the new guardians of the galaxy alongside Akuma whose just there for the epic fights and viewtiful joe whose oblivious to Shuma being a god and is convinced he's a superhero and thinks Akuma is just being tsundure.

 

[Choppasmith]

I'd also accept Alex Ross.

Something like this where it's half Shinkiro and half Ross would be sweet

 

[Neoxon]

Something like this where it's half Shinkiro and half Ross would be sweet

I mean, Alex Ross has been doing a ton of Marvel art recently, so there's hope.

But yeah, Marvel-Ross vs. Capcom-Shinkiro as the cover would be godlike.

 

[christiankid7]

If we're asking for Comic artists...well that's a long list of people I cannot remember. Bagley would be interesting.

 

[Choppasmith]

I mean, Alex Ross has been doing a ton of Marvel art recently, so there's hope.

But yeah, Marvel-Ross vs. Capcom-Shinkiro as the cover would be godlike.

It's funny how similar the two are. I remember Tizoc making a comment a long time ago saying Shinkiro is basically Japanese Alex Ross.

They're both known for their "realism"
They've both done Marvel artwork
They've both done artwork with Tatsunoko characters (well with Ross it was just Gatchaman)

Only thing different is we've never seen Alex Ross draw Capcom characters. Seeing Alex Ross work with Shinkiro on something like MvC has been my own little quirky wish next to Stan Lee making an appearance in the game somehow.

 

[Pieman0920]

Personally I'm not that big a fan of Alex Ross, but I'm kind of curious what would happen if he had to draw some of the more cartoony characters, since they aren't quite in his style. Looking it up, its kind of odd seeing his Howard the Duck, though I've only seen one picture so far with it, and only three with Rocket.

Really, if I had to go with a regular Marvel artist, I'd go with Jim Cheung or maybe Oliver Coipel. Cheung's AvX cover was pretty much begging to be a fighting game cover as it is.

 

[palpabl_purpura]

What about graviton as the final boss?

 

[Neoxon]

Personally I'm not that big a fan of Alex Ross, but I'm kind of curious what would happen if he had to draw some of the more cartoony characters, since they aren't quite in his style. Looking it up, its kind of odd seeing his Howard the Duck, though I've only seen one picture so far with it, and only three with Rocket.

Really, if I had to go with a regular Marvel artist, I'd go with Jim Cheung or maybe Oliver Coipel. Cheung's AvX cover was pretty much begging to be a fighting game cover as it is.

I could see Oliver Coipel doing a good job with the Capcom characters. For reference, here's one of Coipel's most recent covers for Marvel.

My only issue with this is how small She-Hulk's legs are (likely a fuck-up in terms of drawing her depth in the image).

 

[TheDinoman]

folks i just wanna remind you all something

this is an actual thing

someone at capcom or marvel looked at this said "yeah this looks great, throw it in the artbook that'll come with the special edition of this game"

god damn