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Capcom wants a lot of things. They always want a lot of things.
TheSpoiler
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I thought it was March 2018.
Shit ain't happening either way.
1 million maybe, holiday sales included. But 2 million is crazy town unless something wild happens.
Doctrine Dark
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Some part of me has me believing Capcom wasn't expecting this game to take off in sells.
Obviously the opposite (Capcom assumed it'd do well simply because it has Marvel on the title) is also likely.
But Capcom saw the outrage after the leaked list and the constant memes. I find it hard to believe they thought the reception would've improved drastically.
I'm just wondering if this game has a legit future or not.
Obviously the opposite (Capcom assumed it'd do well simply because it has Marvel on the title) is also likely.
But Capcom saw the outrage after the leaked list and the constant memes. I find it hard to believe they thought the reception would've improved drastically.
I'm just wondering if this game has a legit future or not.
The thing is I think this game as a whole is better than SFV and SFV is at 1.7 mil at the moment. Still kinda realistic, we'll see.
As someone said earlier Capcom has on blinders until they crash into something.
dragonzdogma
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If you skip all the cutscenes it takes like 20-30 minutes to finish.
Some Marvel Infinite sets.
Angelic (Firebrand/Dormammu/Space) vs Joey D (Zero/Thanos/Reality)
https://youtu.be/zDf51Zl0zV4
Coach Steve (Nova/Spencer/Reality) vs Dual Kevin (Dante/Hawkeye/Reality)
https://youtu.be/BWqyjEqfuk4
RayRay(Gamora/Ultron/Reality) vs Marn (Zero/Dante/Power)
https://youtu.be/pkN0g54FxGI
We have Manila Games Week this weekend which is a Stone tournament. Expect some pros to fly out there.
Latin Games Finals is another CPT and Stone event.
Red Bulls Battlegrounds.
Canada CUP and SEA Major. All of these are Stone majors.
Notice the International spread here. They are really pushing MVCI globally this time around.
Angelic (Firebrand/Dormammu/Space) vs Joey D (Zero/Thanos/Reality)
https://youtu.be/zDf51Zl0zV4
Coach Steve (Nova/Spencer/Reality) vs Dual Kevin (Dante/Hawkeye/Reality)
https://youtu.be/BWqyjEqfuk4
RayRay(Gamora/Ultron/Reality) vs Marn (Zero/Dante/Power)
https://youtu.be/pkN0g54FxGI
Do you need this for something or just asking?
We have Manila Games Week this weekend which is a Stone tournament. Expect some pros to fly out there.
Latin Games Finals is another CPT and Stone event.
Red Bulls Battlegrounds.
Canada CUP and SEA Major. All of these are Stone majors.
Notice the International spread here. They are really pushing MVCI globally this time around.
Unless NA PS4 saves it, 1 mil is only happening if there are some deep Black Friday and Christmas price cuts (which would be a bad sign as well as it would show that Capcom overshipped like crazy).
Waddle Dee
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I beat some poor soul so hard with Ghost Rider (and I'm not even good) that it must have confused them into thinking they were in an alternate dimension where they beat me since they sent a message that said "stay free, boy".
Also, I came across someone with an absolutely revolting PSN name
ToyStory2isOkay
TheSpoiler
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I saw HiFight using Strange and Spencer. Was actually pretty sick. I have too many teams I want to try but I think I'll force myself for a month to stick with one like that. [
SFV is still a trash fire outside itself though. Telling people to pick up a game where the online is spotty compared to MvC where the game is a tasty treat besides the ugly shell its encased in is different.
But yeah, Capcom needs to start making adjustments. Low sales, even with other revenue coming in, is going to put their asses in panic mode, and its sad that it has to get this way for it to happen.
Black Friday sales aren't primarily getting rid of excess stock. I mean, it can be, but Altus games and other titles that aren't particularly common (but not rare) get price cuts. NA isn't saving shit either way, so holiday sales are the only way they'll make it to 1 million by the end of March 2018
SFV is still a trash fire outside itself though. Telling people to pick up a game where the online is spotty compared to MvC where the game is a tasty treat besides the ugly shell its encased in is different.
But yeah, Capcom needs to start making adjustments. Low sales, even with other revenue coming in, is going to put their asses in panic mode, and its sad that it has to get this way for it to happen.
Black Friday sales aren't primarily getting rid of excess stock. I mean, it can be, but Altus games and other titles that aren't particularly common (but not rare) get price cuts. NA isn't saving shit either way, so holiday sales are the only way they'll make it to 1 million by the end of March 2018
TheSpoiler
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Ridiculous hitboxes are like a part of Marvel's life fam this ain't no Skullgirls
The masses are fine with the roster, they love the MCU. Hell I'm fine with the roster. And I really don't understand the graphics hate it gets either, it looks better then SFV, and few complained about that. There are rough edges for sure, but it's blown way out of proportion. There are too many people who want this to fail in an odd attempt to punish capcom.
The Mango Sentinel
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Pretty much what I was doing until my gf wanted to watch the goddamn cutscenes....i was like ugh... why?
AWizardDidIt
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I actually agree. This was a failure on the marketing end imo. Presentation and roster I think effect sales less than those closest to the game think.
PadWarrior
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lol I know the feeling. My daughter made me not skip them lol.
I think if it had a tweaked roster, a few better models on some characters (I actually think the graphics generally are good), a well laid out DLC support model, competitive play and some X-Men (plus a better earlier demo) I don't think particularly it would have exploded week 1, but I think we'd be looking at 1 million by Xmas and 2 million by the end of FY 2017, with good money coming in through DLC and costume support.
Due to the weak first impressions and the coming Onslaught of winter titles, it's in real long term trouble I think without heavy price cuts and that's just gonna piss off the base from MVC3 that did come back post UMVC3
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Casuals arent fine with the roster just because the MCU is there.
I brought MvCI over to a friends house on the weekend. One friend was particularly excited to try it out. Obviously he wasnt aware of the graphics or PR disaster. As soon as we got to the character select screen he stops and goes... Wait thats it? Are there unlockable characters?
Even though he really enjoyed the game itself his disappointment with the roster initially was palpable.
We ended up going out for a smoke break during which everyone talked about how games have gone up to $90 (after tax in Canada) and even thats not enough with season passes and microtransactions to leech more money.
Ive kind of come to accept these things as a huge gaming fan but my more casual friends werent as forgiving of these trends of offering less content while charging more than ever.
Waddle Dee
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Yep. Even the IGN (or was it Gamespot?) video review pretty much started the review off by more or less saying "There's no getting around it, this games presentation is bad and it leaves a bad first impression." Plus, every review has complained about the roster. If those 2 things weren't so bad at launch the game would have done better for sure.
Yes because that's the standard that has been set by industry. Especially for sequels.
And games don't really cost the same when content is split season passes and DLC.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Matching MvC3s roster would have been a start.
You might think 6 characters in a season pass for $30 ($40 Canadian) is good value, most people don't.
Not only that, it's easier than ever and common for people to just check Metacritic. They'll see the overall scores, the ratio of positive to negative reviews, and skim review summaries for commonalities. A purchase is decided in seconds.
Not all games with good average scores sell well, but they help, and most million-sellers (at least these days) have good-to-great average scores and good word of mouth.
This is one weak defense.
I thought you said Zero zoning with Sougenmu wasn't going to be a problem
It's good but a lot of the cast have decent tools to deal with it. It's still spending 1 meter to have your turn if you know what you're doing.
I never expect that, the only expectations I have for any sequel is that they do what they have already shown they can do. That was most certainly not the case with this game.
The Mango Sentinel
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REALLY liking RayRay's Ultron. I like seeing him use the laser into flight which I haven't seen anyone doing really, but it was something I had been working on. Must be Sentinel player thing lol. Just looking for those projectiles to cancel into flight.
Turbanator
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Is there keyboard remapping in this game? I ask because SFV just now added the feature.
Yup. No individual character trailers was an insane choice.
TheSpoiler
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Yo Ray Ray is looking sick.
Also, one of the reality stone tournaments is in Chicago. This is hype.
Also, one of the reality stone tournaments is in Chicago. This is hype.
racketpunch
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Lol that sucks!
Just a comment on the game industry in general. Games have been 60 dollars for over a decade, but people continuously want more for their money.
Makes sense, as consumers, but I still think its funny.
sixteen-bit
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Aren't the cutscenes on youtube? Tell them to watch 'em there.
It's not, Angelic has very little patience and runs into everything. He is going to struggle in MVCI in general if he keeps playing like that.I thought you said Zero zoning with Sougenmu wasn't going to be a problem
These random loading times on PC are starting to annoy me.
This game has that already.
This game has that already.
Am I wrong to think that he also overly relies on Zero a bit too much.
So I wonder. Obviously people aren't happy with this game's style, but I'm trying to think of what style they could have used instead.
A big part of especially modern fighting game sequels is they need to look sufficiently different from their previous game to seperate themselves from the pack. So for instance, if MvCI would have used the same art style as UMvC3, especially with so many returning characters being based off their UMvC3 version, it's very easy to see than many people would just write the game off as the same game.
So this art style they went with wasn't the right choice, but what was? Obviously Marvel played into it too, but I think this art style could have worked with maybe just some more effort. It looks different, as it should, but not in a good way.
A big part of especially modern fighting game sequels is they need to look sufficiently different from their previous game to seperate themselves from the pack. So for instance, if MvCI would have used the same art style as UMvC3, especially with so many returning characters being based off their UMvC3 version, it's very easy to see than many people would just write the game off as the same game.
So this art style they went with wasn't the right choice, but what was? Obviously Marvel played into it too, but I think this art style could have worked with maybe just some more effort. It looks different, as it should, but not in a good way.
Teknopathetic
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While I don't particularly mind the way the game looks, an ArcSys kind of execution but with a Silver Age/Jack Kirby style probably would've appeased more people.
TheSpoiler
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I think the artstyle just needed a slight injection of a comic book feel. They can keep the grittiness but the lack of cel shading or something else hurts it imo. Even a slight filter would help a ton of chararcters
It's the character he played in Marvel 3, it's natural.