It's amazing how Tim Roth can elevate movies to a level they have no business being at otherwise -- Planet of the Apes, Hoodlum, The Musketeer, etc. Awesome, awesome actor and was the best part about The Incredible Hulk.
Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]
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It's amazing how Tim Roth can elevate movies to a level they have no business being at otherwise -- Planet of the Apes, Hoodlum, The Musketeer, etc. Awesome, awesome actor and was the best part about The Incredible Hulk.
shira
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Soldiers aren't body builders. Skill means a lot more than strength.
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Tim Roth's probably the only thing I liked about the new Hulk film.
Escape Goat
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But Phil Dunphey was with the Hulk's girlfriend before he met Claire.
The real relationship to look at in Thor is the one between Thor and Loki. Hiddleston was great as Loki and the Portman/Hemsworth relationship was just a little side story.
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Most soldiers at 40 are over weight asses that can't pass their PT test.
This is my problem with Thor though.
Thor when it's Thor and Loki, or hell Thor and the rest of the Asgardians is a great film. Odin, Thor, Loki, Syph and The Warriors Three are all great.
Thing is the second it focuses on the people from earth the movie takes a dive into straight boring. Portman despite having a far larger role isn't half as likeable as Syph and the rest of human characters do nothing but waste time.
If they had just focuses on Asgard and didn't try to force the human element the movie would have been far more enjoyable. Granted they couldn't do that because of Thor needing to grow, but still it doesn't change the fact the humans are the worst part of the movie.
All IMO of course.
From what I remember of the movie, I agree. Stellan Skarsgard was the best of the humans because he was the only one that seemed to move the story along. Portman's character was just sort of there with some contrived romance that really didn't go anywhere, which made the ending feel undeserved. Thor's "redemption" was weak at best because he didn't have enough time to grow. They should have just cut that whole segment. None of it felt like it was earned at the end.
Well he says that numerous times on Lie To Me.
The tension between Iron Man and Captain America is interesting. Personally I like Robert Downey Jr. and his version of Tony Stark but I'm not as in love with it as the mainstream audience is. I think I like the other actors and characters about the same.
shira
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Cap: Stark, we need a plan of attack.
Tony: I have a plan. Attack!
Shudder. I think I'll wait.
That's in the comics too I think. They were on opposite sides of registration after all. Their personalities also clash.
Cap is very straight arrow, Iron Man is very much a rebel.
You do realize trailers are edited to hell and back and often feature scenes not in the movie (sometimes). Relax man.
I remember when the Iron Man 2 scene where Stark says "You complete me" to Pepper was fun in the commercials but wasn't in the movie.
I actually like them using cut scenes or redone scenes for trailers because it reduces spoilers while still giving you a sense of what the movie is.
This is joss whedon were talking about here, I fully expect BW to be the most competent member of the team and up saving the day in the end.
well with all the testosterone floating around, she may as well be the only competent one in the group.
shira
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I was just wondering is the Avengers just a codename or do they have actual members who are called Avengers? I haven't seen Iron Man 2 so I don't know too much about her character. I thought there was some kind of distinction between the super heroes and the military types that help them out.
shira
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I was waiting for that line and so I expected him to jump out the plane again later in the movie
In this interview, Kevin Feige confirms that The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver have shared rights, so they can appear in both Fox's X-Men films and Disney's Avengers films. The Skrulls are in the same boat.
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It's looking like it'll be the best Iron Man AND Hulk movie...because isn't that all we wanted out of the two? Just cool special effects of IM flying around, shooting off missiles and stuff and Hulk just smashing things, jumping around and smashing things again
I think it would be great if they could do Civil War for The Avengers 2, setting up the Registration in Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Captain America 2, and whatever other tie-in movies they are doing in the next two years. Then they could end Civil War with a reveal that the Skrulls ramped up the conflict (but make sure to note that Registration has merit and wasn't a Skrull idea) to weaken Earth for the looming invasion in The Avengers 3.
Not having Spider Man during Civil War would be odd. Wolverine did some stuff, but he and the X Men for the most part could be overlooked but the Role Spidey played and how Stark had used him for a while would make things strange if he just didn't exist here.
Neat, mags kids are my favorite avengers, would love to see them on the big screen, though super speed has never looked good in live action.
Also should do ultimate versions so we can have some creepy implied twin incest.
I guess.
The X-Men were largely left out of Civil War because after Decimation, the few remaining mutants left were all identified and registered already.
and Scarlett hitting on pym's robots.
Scarlet Witch's powers don't really make sense either. Altering reality? Overpowered much? Super speed also looks terrible in live action. I think it would be best to leave Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver out.
Even Ant Man would be a tough fit for the current Avengers team. How do they show him becoming a giant and stomping on bad guys, then in the next scene riding an ant as they swarm bad guys? It would be too hard to do in a way that didn't look ridiculously silly.
Black Panther could work, since he's kinda just Cap with claws instead of a shield in terms of fighting. However, any Black Panther movie would deal with Wakanda and this is Hollywood we're talking about. A country of super advanced Africans with an all-black cast is not going to be made into a movie.
Even Ant Man would be a tough fit for the current Avengers team. How do they show him becoming a giant and stomping on bad guys, then in the next scene riding an ant as they swarm bad guys? It would be too hard to do in a way that didn't look ridiculously silly.
Black Panther could work, since he's kinda just Cap with claws instead of a shield in terms of fighting. However, any Black Panther movie would deal with Wakanda and this is Hollywood we're talking about. A country of super advanced Africans with an all-black cast is not going to be made into a movie.
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I can't wait any longer. My nerd boner is refusing to subside.
Watch them appear in the First Class sequel as Magneto's long-lost siblings.
Messofanego
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Holy shit lol just realised this! That movie was a disservice, can never beat Diana Rigg.
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I bought tickets to The Avengers because I thought it was the Marvel comics Avengers. I left halfway through.
I think they could just tone down wakanda, do away with all the tribal bullshit and there super tech, just make them like the US or any other super power, but they have a super special awesome metal that can make neat things and the rest of the world wants it, and even then keep the wakanda parts to the bare minimum.
I doubt any comic fan would really care if they changed it, not even BP fans give much of as shit about wakanda.
I doubt any comic fan would really care if they changed it, not even BP fans give much of as shit about wakanda.
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Was this before you had the Internet? edit: oh, 1998, never mind
Face it Tiger..
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I can imagine it already: Moon Knight & Black Panther get similar movies because they fill the same arch type as Bat Man
The Mad Knight Rises.
The Black Cat Begins.
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I was 16 and wasn't as concerned with keeping informed on movies unless I saw the commercial on TV.
Good point, that could be a problem too.
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Just make it about when BP becomes the American panther, servin' justice in hell's kitchen.
this shit isn't for kids.
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Hulk farts and Iron Man pees oil on a downed bad guy.
ops ... mixed everything !
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There is some kind of public private screening tomorrow... the movie only opens in 27 =|
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