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Donald Trump Shook Hands with CPAC Chairman Exposed to Attendee Infected with Coronavirus
CPAC Chairman Matt Schlapp interacted with an attendee who later tested positive for the coronavirus
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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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Donald Trump Shook Hands with CPAC Chairman Exposed to Attendee Infected with Coronavirus
CPAC Chairman Matt Schlapp interacted with an attendee who later tested positive for the coronaviruspeople.com
Don’t fret, Gobbie, he’ll be fine:
Daxter32jak
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So does anyone actually personally know anyone who got the virus?
My god, he’s an idiot.
Sakura
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This is some dumb shit.not sure what to think of this but i hope he’s right
Coronavirus going to hit its peak and start falling sooner than you think
Nations are closing borders, stocks are plummeting and a New York Times headline reads: “The Coronavirus Has Put the World’s Economy in Survival Mode.” Both political parties have realized the cris…nypost.com
He's doing that false comparing with the flu again.
Let's talk about how many flu deaths there were, but not how many flu illnesses, because it makes the flu seem worse.
The opinion piece completely ignores all the measures China took to contain this and reduce infections. It reads as though the disease just peaked and started declining on its own.
Millions of people have the flu at any given time, so no shit.
Sure. We have no idea what the final death rate will be. It could very well end up being 3%, or it could be 1%, or some other number. But "we don't know" doesn't mean "it will be the same as the flu", and I think it would be incredibly stupid to operate under the assumption that the death rate is going to be just the same as the flu, and not worry about it.
Something to consider, during the 2009 pandemic, when looking at confirmed cases and deaths, we had death rates of less than 1%, for example total cases in July was 77201 with 332 deaths, giving a death rate of about 0.4%. Back then we would've had the same issue of unreported cases of mild symptoms etc. Yet with coronavirus we are at about 3%, I think it would be very unlikely for this to end up having the same numbers as a regular flu.
So what about the situation in Italy? I guess Italy is one of those poor countries with poor health care. (maybe it is though, no idea)
So are we supposed to believe the Chinese numbers or not? Because those are pretty bad numbers.
While it probably won't be able to spread as much in the summer as colder months, that doesn't mean it won't spread, and the issue is more in how many people it will have infected by then. February 1st we were at 12,000 or so cases. March 1st 87,000. Who knows what we will be at by May, especially if people take the attitude of "It's just the flu".
Also, the flu never dies out, even in the summer. Just look at the swine flu pandemic. It started in April. In the US, there were 141 confirmed cases in May, then 8,975 in June, then 27,717 in July, and 43,771 in August.
gamerMan
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Donald Trump Shook Hands with CPAC Chairman Exposed to Attendee Infected with Coronavirus
CPAC Chairman Matt Schlapp interacted with an attendee who later tested positive for the coronavirus
Now I'm worried about the American flag.
lyan
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He is betting on the collective wisdom of humanity to out-smart the virus, which in the end is the more likely outcome given the knowledge and technology we possess. Yes things will probably end up ok but that is precisely because the world is not run by dumbasses who thinks "but the flu".
Just one of those who would come out and say "told you its nothing" when things are sorted ignoring all the effort put into the matter (similar to the way how some mention China now).
Smiles and Cries
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Donald Trump Shook Hands with CPAC Chairman Exposed to Attendee Infected with Coronavirus
CPAC Chairman Matt Schlapp interacted with an attendee who later tested positive for the coronavirus
see, they lie too much. When I first posted the news I remember a part saying Trump and Pence was not even near the guy. And they said no one was in contact with him. Now people are putting out Press Releases. And Trump is making jokes.
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Ixion
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Not sure where the lie is. Trump and Pence didn't come into contact with the guy who tested positive. They came into contact with a guy who came into contact with the guy. So obviously it just took some time to identify that link.
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Smiles and Cries
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Party sponsored by Corona(tm) Beer. When you're feeling Fine, make it Corona(tm) Time
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Be careful. Optimistic and going by numbers instead of headlines is something some people don't like here.
These are the same people or doctors who make YouTube videos who said 3-4 weeks ago that it will spread unchecked in China or South Korea and that we should all be prepared because we will all get it.
I'm very sure that the numbers from Italy will fall this week and maybe then people (and some countries) will run out of excuses as more and more countries manage to contain the virus.
Smiles and Cries
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Sure sure, but when are we going to learn what Corona Chan has been trying to teach us?
We are all connnected my friend, we are all connected.
Liberty4all
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I wonder how the worst stock market crash in recent memory about to happen in 6 hours will effect the ongoing panic.
Rentahamster
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Smiles and Cries
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they have been doing a great job if not for the Church folks it would never had gotten that bad there, let us see the second batch of numbers for the day which should be out soon
Smiles and Cries
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I was wondering if they could not take steps against this, did they not shut this down after 9/11 for a while. Can't they just put a pause for a little while until people calm down and adjust to this?
But then again many of them might want the market open because even tanking there is vast new oportunities to become very stinky rich from these low times. So I am not sure I buy the pretend panic among these guys.
donfonzie
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But when you are not fine, crap it's Corona virus time
darkinstinct
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It won't help.
What are we expecting, minus 10 %? I think we can loose up to 80 % from this year's high if this thing doesn't get contained.
Smiles and Cries
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I still worry about India the most. Hope they are isolating like crazy.
Smiles and Cries
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There are now 565 coronavirus cases in the United States
From CNN's Tina Burnside in Atlanta
There are 565 people in the United States who have contracted the novel coronavirus, according to the state and local health agencies, governments and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Here's a state-by-state breakdown of the cases:
US death toll is now at 22, with one new death in Washington
From CNN's Jason Kravarik
A coronavirus patient in Grant County, Washington, has died, according the Grant County Health District.
A third coronavirus patient has died in the UK
From CNN’s Hira Humayun in Atlanta
The UK confirmed its third coronavirus-related death on Sunday.
The patient was over 60 years old, and was being treated at North Manchester General Hospital, said a statement from Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty.
He added that the patient had “significant underlying health conditions” and had recently traveled from an affected area.
From CNN's Tina Burnside in Atlanta
There are 565 people in the United States who have contracted the novel coronavirus, according to the state and local health agencies, governments and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Here's a state-by-state breakdown of the cases:
- Arizona: 5 cases
- California: 89 cases, 1 fatality
- Colorado: 8 cases
- Connecticut: 1 case
- DC: 1 case
- Florida: 13 cases, 2 fatalities
- Georgia: 11 cases
- Hawaii: 2 cases
- Illinois: 7 cases
- Indiana: 2 cases
- Iowa: 3 cases
- Kansas: 1 case
- Kentucky: 4 cases
- Maryland: 5 cases
- Massachusetts: 28 cases
- Minnesota: 2 cases
- Missouri: 1 case
- Nebraska: 3 cases
- Nevada: 4 cases
- New Hampshire: 4 cases
- New Jersey: 6 cases
- New York: 106 cases
- North Carolina: 2 cases
- Oklahoma: 1 case
- Oregon: 14 cases
- Pennsylvania: 6 cases
- Rhode Island: 3 cases
- South Carolina: 6 cases
- Tennessee: 3 cases
- Texas: 12 cases
- Utah: 1 case
- Vermont: 1 case
- Virginia: 2 cases
- Washington state: 137 cases, 19 fatalities
- Wisconsin: 1 case
US death toll is now at 22, with one new death in Washington
From CNN's Jason Kravarik
A coronavirus patient in Grant County, Washington, has died, according the Grant County Health District.
A third coronavirus patient has died in the UK
From CNN’s Hira Humayun in Atlanta
The UK confirmed its third coronavirus-related death on Sunday.
The patient was over 60 years old, and was being treated at North Manchester General Hospital, said a statement from Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty.
He added that the patient had “significant underlying health conditions” and had recently traveled from an affected area.
Chairman Tickles
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We are all already dead. It is only a matter of time.
Smiles and Cries
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96 cases in SK this afternoon. So only 165 total for today. Again a decline.
165 March 9
248 March 8
367 March 7
483 March 6
518 March 5
438 March 4
516 March 3
600 March 2
476 March 1
US citizen can now safely travel to China or South Korea to avoid the virus.
South Korea 10AM report
South Korea 5PM report
Same day in South Korea 248 + 96 = 344 decline but your sources are way off. Your dates need to consider local South Korea timezone not our local time
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Whitecrow
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Meanwhile in Valencia, Spain:
www.elconfidencialdigital.com
20000 Italians come to Valencia for 'Las fallas' with no control on the airport.
This, after having a feminist protest in the whole country.
I just wanna leave this country already, it's making me sick, even before I catch CoVID.
20.000 italianos llegan a Valencia por las Fallas: no hay controles en el aeropuerto por el coronavirus
Alarma en Valencia con el coronavirus. A una semana del comienzo oficial de las ...
www.elconfidencialdigital.com
20000 Italians come to Valencia for 'Las fallas' with no control on the airport.
This, after having a feminist protest in the whole country.
I just wanna leave this country already, it's making me sick, even before I catch CoVID.
betrayal
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Among other things, I use the source you have cited here about 100 times (BNO).
But I have seen where the problem is. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ apparently uses different times or time zones in its calculation. Total there is the same you mention, but daily increase is +69 (without the afternoon update). But I like the page itself better, because it shows the daily summed number of cases for each country.
PS: Still a decline. https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200309003455320
People seem to forget that even a constant number of daily cases is a good sign for a virus with a R0 of currently 2 to 3. Math and stuff.
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Smiles and Cries
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NOPE No excuses you have been all about facts and numbers so do your research. 7 hours between 2 reports in a single day in one timezon is not that hard.
A 165 totql decline and a 344 decline are vastly different things for a numbers guy. Don't blame the sources when you play the expert on here. The TimeZone is an easy mistake even I was confused but that is because I have to be up at 3AM my time for the second report. Just don't understand how you got to 165 even if I go back One report from the day before in SK which was 179 cases. SMH.
Don't misinform people to make your point.
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LemmingWithaParachute
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Laboratory workers to strike in labs testing for COVID-19
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It's okay to panic about the virus. It's your thing. I'll leave that to you. But talking bullshit when the numbers are still wrong even on official sites is another thing, especially when the mistake has been corrected and is understandable.
Stop assuming a bad turn of events behind every positive message. Your depressive behaviour has a destructive effect on others and maybe you should just go out, get some distance and realize that the earth is still spinning and will continue to do so for a very long time.
Seriously, telling something about lies because of some wrong numbers without any effect on the said result is bordering on stupidity.
Don't talk shit to make your (emotional) points.
PS: Because I can keep things apart, I still appreciate your effort here. So don't get me wrong. But some of your statements are exaggerated and ridiculous.
PPS: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ still working with the same numbers i've provided (165 new daily cases), with the same total number of cases of 7.478 which you have already mentioned.
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keraj37
Contacted PSN to add his card back to his account
I am waiting for US stock exchange to open today at 2:30 pm UTC - this should be bloodbath, but we will see.
betrayal
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It will be bad. Many countries started with -7% or even -11%. But well, you're right, let's wait and see.
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Smiles and Cries
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No you don't get to Hide behind the word PANIC NO. You need ton own up to your shit. You dismiss numbers you even make shit up you got caught. You do not research so you can't be trusted with facts.
I'm not shitting on you, I am just disappointed in you. You are just playing a game with this.
You don't think your bullshit call of PANIC in here is as exaggerated as the worst of 'we are fucked' reactions in this thread?
If you stayed with the Science and Math and lay down your case without bullshit I would have respected your points but you lie, ignore facts, and want people to be blind to what the trends are. Like I said before you could have been more helpful in here.
I'm not listening to shit you post anymore numnbers people own up to errors you make excuses and say BUT BUT PANIC. Waaaah. You are a huge baby.
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betrayal
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Are you having a stroke or psychosis? Seriously, what are you talking about?
The Scrivener
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This is the link I have been supplied at work. It might be of use to some of you.
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Smiles and Cries
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nods, you are a fool bro
Smiles and Cries
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It is a new virus I doubt you are immune. You might just be too sexy for that shit.
I'm too pretty for that shit myself, I have no plans on catching it.
Seriously just wash your hands lol.
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betrayal
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Your number, 248, is by the way from Sunday and a sum of the daily cases of Sunday and Monday (179 yesterday afternoon, 69 this morning). Check your own sources. Even BNO, your primary source, is using the numbers i've mentioned. Now I have justified myself for something you were wrong about, but I'm not going to make a big deal out of it because I have to admit it's really confusing (especially the tweet you've posted).
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Smiles and Cries
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It is Monday 5:31AM here for me. A little check on google. Oh it is also Monday 6:33 PM. Oops I was Wrong
see how easy it was to say I was wrong I own my shit even at 5am.
Now tell me how getting the wrong numbers give you 165? Since this 96 number was the second number of the day you are still going to have to add it to the last reported number. So even if I got the wrong day your math still don't match. Don't blame BNO I did not blame anyone when you pointed out my error.
248 + 96 = 344 for Monday March 9th in South Korea
367 + 179 = 546 for Sunday March 8th in South Korea
it might be that 179 and 367 are Sunday and Saturday instead of a single day. I would have to change the timezone on my Twitter app no my macbook to see which days those tweets fall on, you should do the same before you make fun of the tweets from a goverment owned media station. But even if I give you those as seperate days. I don't see 165 adding up.
all you had to say was yes a good decline and no I was wrong about the numbers but that ain't you, 'What do you Panic guys know'
edit: changing my timezone and home location to South Korea on my macbook the tweets for both reports 367 and 179 fall on the Same day Sunday March 8th so again not sure how we got 165 from the reported data.
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Lanrutcon
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Pretty sure Corona tried going to Australia, landed, took a look around and then climbed straight back on the plane.
Smiles and Cries
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Check this:
Source: https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200309003455320
I don't do much math either, but simply look at the familiar sites that do the math and prepare the data. All three sources use the numbers I posted. Even you use those sources. So don't pretend that I'm deliberately misposting numbers to embellish anything by using only official numbers from the sources that are used here all the time. If you go to these pages right now, you will see that they use exactly the numbers (165) I have posted.
Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
The table below shows cases of coronavirus (officially known as SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19, or 2019-nCoV) around the world. Each figure is verified by our team through local health departments or local media. A distribution map and a timeline with a list of recent updates can be found below the table...
bnonews.com
Coronavirus Update (Live): 130,949,997 Cases and 2,852,987 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
www.worldometers.info
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All these numbers are the tip of the iceberg.
We already know a huge portion of people aren't tested.
Some kits were "not up to standard", eg. in the USA.
Many cases (actually most) are mild so they go unnoticed.
I'm not sure if anyone did the math, and if this virus is 20x worse than the flu across all ages, or it gets exponentially worse for older people. If it's more the latter then it's going to be ubiquitous just like the flu except take out more older people. The young folks will spread that shit like wildfire, especially through elementary schools and high schools, seeing as very young people are hardly affected.
I think this past weekend was the last one I'm willing to venture to heavily populated public places and have food prepared for me by others. The numbers are going up far too quickly and I don't see this being contained, especially not in the US where people will focus more on avoiding taking PTO rather than avoiding getting their co-workers sick (not their fault, US has a screwed up work culture).
Some general tips:
- disinfectant wipes for surfaces
- carry a small hand sanitizer in your pocket
- reduce visits to restaurants and other public places
- outdoor walks are a good substitute
- vitamin C
- eat and sleep well
- avoid small meeting rooms with colleagues
- avoid handshakes
- wash your hands and don't touch the face
- shave your beard (it can trap stuff in it)
- work from home if you can
- don't panic and buy mountains of toilet paper (wtf?)
- buy things at the grocery store in larger quantities to avoid additional trips
- tell your older relatives to stay at home, they are at greatest risk
- don't go to chuch/synagogue, god will be fine without your prayers (after all, if he works in mysterious ways, Coronavirus is partly his doing)
- educate your friends, relatives and co-workers as much as possible with regards to good practices
- in general keep calm, it's not a scary thing if you're under 50, but for older people it is quite serious so think more about not being a carrier and not jeopardizing their safety
- do not try to downplay this by making your own inferences with regards to numbers. The CDC and WHO are good sources, the president has proven to be a useless one.
- avoid travel as much as possible, and if you have colleagues who have traveled recently to affected areas (eg. Washington State), consider raising the issue with HR and seeing if they would be willing to quarantine for a while
Also remember there is a 2 week lag behind things. So take a look at where things were 2 weeks ago and extrapolate that to where things will be 2 weeks from now (in terms of presently affected people who simply don't know it yet). 2 weeks ago there were about 2.5K cases worldwide outside of China, that number is at 29.5K right now. I haven't properly fit the data but roughly speaking it seems the doubling time is about 4 days. This means about 5.6K cases in 2 weeks and about 90K cases a month from now in the US. Of course it all depends on how good the response is and if they take it seriously enough early enough (unlike China). I hope some population model comes out soon based on Italy and SK, and perhaps some other places, so we can properly asses, because the China data seems to be a big farce at this point.
We already know a huge portion of people aren't tested.
Some kits were "not up to standard", eg. in the USA.
Many cases (actually most) are mild so they go unnoticed.
I'm not sure if anyone did the math, and if this virus is 20x worse than the flu across all ages, or it gets exponentially worse for older people. If it's more the latter then it's going to be ubiquitous just like the flu except take out more older people. The young folks will spread that shit like wildfire, especially through elementary schools and high schools, seeing as very young people are hardly affected.
I think this past weekend was the last one I'm willing to venture to heavily populated public places and have food prepared for me by others. The numbers are going up far too quickly and I don't see this being contained, especially not in the US where people will focus more on avoiding taking PTO rather than avoiding getting their co-workers sick (not their fault, US has a screwed up work culture).
Some general tips:
- disinfectant wipes for surfaces
- carry a small hand sanitizer in your pocket
- reduce visits to restaurants and other public places
- outdoor walks are a good substitute
- vitamin C
- eat and sleep well
- avoid small meeting rooms with colleagues
- avoid handshakes
- wash your hands and don't touch the face
- shave your beard (it can trap stuff in it)
- work from home if you can
- don't panic and buy mountains of toilet paper (wtf?)
- buy things at the grocery store in larger quantities to avoid additional trips
- tell your older relatives to stay at home, they are at greatest risk
- don't go to chuch/synagogue, god will be fine without your prayers (after all, if he works in mysterious ways, Coronavirus is partly his doing)
- educate your friends, relatives and co-workers as much as possible with regards to good practices
- in general keep calm, it's not a scary thing if you're under 50, but for older people it is quite serious so think more about not being a carrier and not jeopardizing their safety
- do not try to downplay this by making your own inferences with regards to numbers. The CDC and WHO are good sources, the president has proven to be a useless one.
- avoid travel as much as possible, and if you have colleagues who have traveled recently to affected areas (eg. Washington State), consider raising the issue with HR and seeing if they would be willing to quarantine for a while
Also remember there is a 2 week lag behind things. So take a look at where things were 2 weeks ago and extrapolate that to where things will be 2 weeks from now (in terms of presently affected people who simply don't know it yet). 2 weeks ago there were about 2.5K cases worldwide outside of China, that number is at 29.5K right now. I haven't properly fit the data but roughly speaking it seems the doubling time is about 4 days. This means about 5.6K cases in 2 weeks and about 90K cases a month from now in the US. Of course it all depends on how good the response is and if they take it seriously enough early enough (unlike China). I hope some population model comes out soon based on Italy and SK, and perhaps some other places, so we can properly asses, because the China data seems to be a big farce at this point.
Smiles and Cries
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Check this:
Source: https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200309003455320
I don't do much math either, but simply look at the familiar sites that do the math and prepare the data. All three sources use the numbers I posted. Even you use those sources. So don't pretend that I'm deliberately misposting numbers to embellish anything by using only official numbers from the sources that are used here all the time. If you go to these pages right now, you will see that they use exactly the numbers I have posted.
Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
The table below shows cases of coronavirus (officially known as SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19, or 2019-nCoV) around the world. Each figure is verified by our team through local health departments or local media. A distribution map and a timeline with a list of recent updates can be found below the table...Coronavirus Update (Live): 130,949,997 Cases and 2,852,987 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
hello, that just depends on each sources timezone if they are not willing to do what I just did they will mistake Sunday numbers with Monday numberds just like you corrected me on just now.
I did not put the buck on the source I said I was wrong, I changed my timezone and looked at the shit myself.
Here is Sunday in South Korea
Like we found out together doing a little digging 248 and 96 are Monday numbers.
Also if they have to report 248 at 9-10 AM in the morning local time on Monday? Does it not make sense to you they had those resulting numbers on SUNDAY for the morning report on Monday? It creates a lot of room for a writer to play with times and dates. But the numbers had not changed. Again where is the 165?
we clear now?
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Smiles and Cries
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Smiles and Cries
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Okay thank you. I will grant you that you got screwed by your sources and you did not try to lowball your numbers.
I don't know where they got that 65 from but BNO does a lot of number deleting and editing because they listen to people who tweet at them and have to go back to fix them. I never use the number feed with the time stamps for that reason. They reported my state Connecticut had 1 case but they had to remove it because that person works in CT but lives in New York. That 69 had to be deleted if BNO and official SK numbers still add up as of the 96 cases update
Both, Official South Korea totals and BNO totals for South Korea match up at 7,478
so whereever that 69 came from they corrected it, and that other site is clearly using BNO timeline as updates lol so the error spreads.
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