Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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I don't think it can be contained unless serious measures are taken elsewhere. If the news of 5 million leaving wuhan ,upon quarantine announcement, are true.
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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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Captain Zyrain
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I think if the other areas are taking precautions ahead of time and tracking down/isolating people, they can keep it from becoming as bad as Wuhan, since they sat on their hands for far too long.
Even a mini-outbreak in the states or elsewhere can probably be contained relatively easily since ALL the focus will be on that one area/city/etc. I am hoping this is why the #s in the rest of China are reported low. Also, if the #s are low, they can better take care of the critically ill and prevent the deaths (that we're not seeing).
It could all be a sham and maybe everyone over there is already dead, but we can only go off the info we have right not sadly.
Captain Zyrain
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So 71 deaths today.
660 more cases.. So what.. 3600-something?
Less than I thought it'd be if I'm being honest which is good I guess.
nush
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Hong Kong to quarantine all travellers from mainland, as leader invokes special powers
Residents included in new restriction as civil servants set to be told to stay at home until February 16 at earliest.
www.scmp.com
So now only one border from the mainland to Hong Kong is open and anyone passing through is quarantined for 2 weeks. To all intents and purposed the China mainland to Hong Kong border is closed.
Smiles and Cries
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this gets sadder and sadder everyday
I guesss we need to hope for hot weather season because this shit needs to slow the fuck down
I guesss we need to hope for hot weather season because this shit needs to slow the fuck down
Yoda
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I've heard this from a few people, but given that we've seen cases in countries at much lower latitudes than Wuhan, does it hold that the virus has trouble spreading in warmer environments?
GAMETA
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Summer in the north, winter in the south. And when it hits the 3rd world things will get ugly.
Smiles and Cries
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nush
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QUOTED Text.
Typically, when you report on something developing so quickly, you need to be there or at least have more than hearsay from 'friends' you talk to on social media and a green screen running stock footage behind you.
My comment.
I've seen this Daniel guy videos posted quite a few times now in different places. He's on the China payroll so wont upset the authorities in case his high end bar in central Shenzhen gets shut down. 20 minute video on the "China Bear" western Youtubers, only the last 3 minutes are relevant in demonstrating why just because a Youtuber is saying pro China stuff does not make it actually a true representation of what's happening.
Typically, when you report on something developing so quickly, you need to be there or at least have more than hearsay from 'friends' you talk to on social media and a green screen running stock footage behind you.
My comment.
I've seen this Daniel guy videos posted quite a few times now in different places. He's on the China payroll so wont upset the authorities in case his high end bar in central Shenzhen gets shut down. 20 minute video on the "China Bear" western Youtubers, only the last 3 minutes are relevant in demonstrating why just because a Youtuber is saying pro China stuff does not make it actually a true representation of what's happening.
Bullet Club
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Human sick bombs!
Captain Zyrain
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TheGreatYosh
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Anyone see the Tencent numbers that they quickly took down and replaced with official numbers?
nush
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Discussed already, most likely fake.
Insane Metal
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Super spreaders sounds like a porn movie title.
lyan
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Only effective from 8th Feb midnight, gold rush time now.Hong Kong to quarantine all travellers from mainland, as leader invokes special powers
Residents included in new restriction as civil servants set to be told to stay at home until February 16 at earliest.
So now only one border from the mainland to Hong Kong is open and anyone passing through is quarantined for 2 weeks. To all intents and purposed the China mainland to Hong Kong border is closed.
nush
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Those border crossings can be hell at the best of times, even when all the crossings are open. I'd love to see a picture of how backed up the queue is. On some weekend and Friday crossings it's taken me between 1-2 hours to get through.
Porcile
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If the death rate is 2% then 98% people recover, no?
Dacon
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Well I meant how fast do people recover from infection, assuming you have a decent immune system.
GHG
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Not all 98% of people are recovering.
It's too early to say considering the long incubation period.
Varies wildly from just a couple of days with mild cold like symptoms to full blown pneumonia.
While there are clear higher risk factors (age, general health, smoker, etc), its not well researched enough yet to be able to say anything other than you don't know until you get it.
Cybrwzrd
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I'm not searching for data to support my "conclusion".
It's like with the Iran Airlines flight, there was enough smoke to question the official narrative, and low and behold, I wasn't wrong. Was that my confirmation bias messing with my brain when I claimed it was shot down?
I literally said I don't know if the Tencent data is fake. It very well could be. But the source at least is generally credible. That's the problem, authoritarian countries like China or Iran are never forthcoming with real data until it is too late. Combine that with the concept of "face", and you have a tangled mess of bullshit to deal with.
And yeah, I did accuse him/her of shilling. Judging by his/her post history, it doesn't seem like a perfectly normal poster. Disappeared after the schism completely, then came back to fuss over a sex game on Steam, then randomly popped up in this thread after nearly a year of inactivity.
Croatoan
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Its currently not spreading in Australia (late summer right now)? I believe most of their cases are travelers from China.
5 days is not a long incubation period... Remember 14 days is a rare outlier, which should only be used to insure you are keeping people in quarantine long enough.
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Tesseract
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RIP Dr. Li
Is it strange that this state run news agency is reporting on these things?
what, how the hell did this kill him?
absolutely terrible, rip
xellos2099alpha
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The blood is on China's hand.
www.cnn.com
February 6, 2020 coronavirus news
The coronavirus outbreak has killed more than 560 people and infected more than 28,000 worldwide.
Phunkydiabetic
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keraj37
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RIP Dr. Li
Is it strange that this state run news agency is reporting on these things?
So that would put into fairy tales idea that that virus kills only weak, old or babies - this guy looks very young and on top of that is a medical doctor, so normal assumption would be, had very healthy life.
Sakura
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RIP Dr. Li
Is it strange that this state run news agency is reporting on these things?
This guy was apparently only 34, what the shit
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
You misunderstand how things work. Deaths of people less than 40 are rare but anything can happen. You are still less likely to die if you are less than 60 and don't have a comorbidity.
Also, every person living in China is compromised due to their air quality. Also this dude could have been a heavy smoker like 60% of other men in China.
In other words, we cannot look at a shit hole like China and know how it will work in the 1rst world.
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keraj37
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I agree with you - all I said was in conditional mode. Still quite a death for a young medical doctor. Makes me think of real strenght of this virus. But also could be retaliation from communist party.
xellos2099alpha
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Think about it, none of this could be happening if China didn't try to cover this like like SARS did in the beginning. You actually think they want to kill him AFTER he is proven right?
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Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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and seems like was receiving proper care with bed and all. Newer patients in overrun hospitals will likely have to sit in hallways without much assistance.
For someone so young and seemingly healthy to go down, seems worrisome unless you go by conspiracies that the illness wasn't the cause.
edit: regards possibility of smoking, do we know if younger generations haven't abandoned smoking in china as has happened elsewhere?
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Phunkydiabetic
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vpance
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Him dying just brings more attention to it. Then again, state run media hasn't seemed shy to report on him either. But maybe the cat's out of the bag already so they're forced to eat more shit.
Captain Zyrain
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That's a yikes from me dawg
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Captain Zyrain
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Holy shit.
80+ million more on lock down, 2 more Chinese provinces.
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80+ million more on lock down, 2 more Chinese provinces.
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Insane Metal
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Yup looks like a communist country
keraj37
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My thoughts go same direction - why would you lock down almost 100 milion people coz of 560 deaths and jus 30k sick people?
Mikado
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It's nuts that there are like three orders of magnitude (or more) in terms of number of cases between China and the next most affected country (being Japan, and half of those cases are seemingly from that cruise ship).
Considering that - for example - Canada is refusing to take any steps to prevent spread and yet there are hardly any cases there despite a sizable demographic with travel ties to mainland China?
Considering that - for example - Canada is refusing to take any steps to prevent spread and yet there are hardly any cases there despite a sizable demographic with travel ties to mainland China?
Captain Zyrain
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This guy seems to do a pretty good recap.
DeepEnigma
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How "convenient."
www.foxnews.com
Doctor who sounded alarm on coronavirus dies, hospital says
A statement from the hospital treating Li Wenliang said he died after contracting the novel coronavirus.
www.foxnews.com
Phunkydiabetic
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Uhhhh....back from the dead?
demigod
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This looks more like a deathbed for those people and not really a hospital. How the hell do they pee and shit?
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SLoWMoTIoN
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This is nothing new though, people pass on colds the same way or hell any other airborne like disease.
Cybrwzrd
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Uhhhh....back from the dead?
Global Times is the mouthpiece of the CCP globally. They are trying to figure out how to spin it.
Captain Zyrain
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3rd Cruise ship off Japan?
www3.nhk.or.jp
Westerndam - https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/cruise-ships/ms-westerdam/5.html
Japan to deny entry to foreigners on Westerdam | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News
Japan plans to deny foreign nationals on board a cruise ship from Hong Kong entry into the country due to a suspected case of coronavirus infection within the vessel.
www3.nhk.or.jp
Westerndam - https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/cruise-ships/ms-westerdam/5.html
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