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what? you seriously think BLM "protesters" are not terrorists?


Largely, no.

Are we lumping everyone protesting into one monolithic group?

Sure, there are antifa shitheads and other opportunistic people out there but to say they're all terrorists?
 
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Opening up seems to bring a little uptick but you can get it back under control

Israel and Iran had mini surges that are dying down.

So far in Canada we have not had a surge. Where I live we had provice wide reopening on May 11th, and in my City May 25th and our numbers have kept going down to where we are just over 100 cases. We were the Italy/NYC of Canada.

The increase in cases is directly related to the 2 weeks of protesting and rioting we saw. And then since the governors and media basically killed any crediability stay home save lives could of had no one cares anymore.

Look at the CHAZ. Look at the Brooks case where this guy was going to bars and Wendy's and the 2 cops didn't have masks on.
You live in Canada? Why you care about Trump so much? Just curious.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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Apparently the recently opened restaurants have a bunch of people that have the virus. Management knew, elected officials knew, nobody gave a damn. Fucking Texas I swear.
 

llien

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"Explosion" in Germany. From steady decline of number of actively infected (for weeks) to a jump of 1700 infections in one day (norm was 200-350-ish):

One source of it is this slaughterhouse:

Figures do not add up, just 600 would not be enough to get to 1700 figure, maybe the number of confirmed cases from this source is higher.
 
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pLow7

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"Explosion" in Germany. From steady decline of number of actively infected (for weeks) to a jump of 1700 infections in one day (norm was 200-350-ish):

One source of it is this slaughterhouse:

Figures do not add up, just 600 would not be enough to get to 1700 figure, maybe the number of confirmed cases from this source is higher.

Agreed, something is fishy. I presume it's a delay. The RKI Dashboard, while slower, is better when comparing numbers. The Update from this evening should give an better idea.
 

cryptoadam

Banned
You live in Canada? Why you care about Trump so much? Just curious.

I like Trump and its fun to talk about him. Board isn't really talking about Trudeau to much, unless of course he goes black face again (so that should be in about a month LOL).

I mean lets be honest, good or bad, people from all over the world like to talk about Trump. Go to the other place and probably more than half the posters are international and they will poop on Trump all day. If some boring person like HRC or Jeb was president there wouldn't be anything fun to talk about LOL.
 

Alebrije

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Croatoan

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all of texas is rising all over

and sadly terrorists are protesting all over the country and we are not seeing rises in cases (NY, CHI, MN)

it's not the protests, but it may be fake news
Texas is rising because companies are requiring testing to come back to work. I heard from a doctor yesterday that said that over 70% of all positives they are getting now are asymptomatic people trying to go back to their jobs that are now reopened.

Basically the 20-40 demographic is finally getting massive testing and showing this thing for what it really is.

I am not trying to say that C19 isn't dangerous to old people, unluckly people with bad genetics, immune compromised fats, or anything like that, but for your average worker this thing is less severe than the flu.

The media, and the greedy healthcare system want you scared as shit though. In my city they are now hospitalizing people for having a fever alone because they want the money they lost by shutting down procedures for two months.

I am pretty sure Hospitals get money from the government for each C19 patient they admit as well (13k is the number a heard).

We need to let this thing burn through and get herd immunity. You either live or you die, and given I have type A blood I could die, but who knows, maybe I already had it.
 
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Siri

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Something that I couldn’t have imagined three months ago: incredibly, I now feel safer at the care home where I work than anywhere else except for my own home.

I’m even gaming again - something I thought I might give up because three months ago it just seemed so frivolous.

Still, I hope there will be a day when we can say it’s over. I now believe, however, that that day will be years away.
 
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sinnergy

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Texas is rising because companies are requiring testing to come back to work. I heard from a doctor yesterday that said that over 70% of all positives they are getting now are asymptomatic people trying to go back to their jobs that are now reopened.

Basically the 20-40 demographic is finally getting massive testing and showing this thing for what it really is.

I am not trying to say that C19 isn't dangerous to old people, unluckly people with bad genetics, immune compromised fats, or anything like that, but for your average worker this thing is less severe than the flu.

The media, and the greedy healthcare system want you scared as shit though. In my city they are now hospitalizing people for having a fever alone because they want the money they lost by shutting down procedures for two months.

I am pretty sure Hospitals get money from the government for each C19 patient they admit as well (13k is the number a heard).

We need to let this thing burn through and get herd immunity. You either live or you die, and given I have type A blood I could die, but who knows, maybe I already had it.
Herd immunity is not a option , Te Netherlands is much smaller and we only have achieved 5% and most was in the peak. And our health care almost collapsed , it would turn into a complete shit show if you pursue this.

It would take us more than 2 years with measures we have now in place.

If you let this spread you would end up globally higher than Spanish Flu , which took 60 million lives .

And people who survive are damaged for life .
 

Croatoan

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Herd immunity is not a option , Te Netherlands is much smaller and we only have achieved 5% and most was in the peak. And our health care almost collapsed , it would turn into a complete shit show if you pursue this.

It would take us more than 2 years with measures we have now in place.

If you let this spread you would end up globally higher than Spanish Flu , which took 60 million lives .

And people who survive are damaged for life .
Uhh, 3 of my employees, and two of another company, had coronavirus (2 over 50 and obese), and survived this deadly disease that did absolutely nothing to them (1 was barely what you would call sick). They are most certainly not damaged for life, and are back to the hard work they do.

The vast majority of new cases are asymptomatic young people who will also mostly likely (99.7%) suffer no long term effects.

You sound like a hysterical lunatic.

Also, the Spanish flu didn't end society since, you know, we are still here so...
 
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Could Arizona be the first to go back into lockdown?

Arizona Hits Record-High Hospital Capacity As Coronavirus Cases Climb

Arizona broke record-highs on Tuesday when overall hospital capacity in the state hit 85 percent, according to the Arizona Department of Health Services.

The number of new daily coronavirus cases continues on an upward trend. On Wednesday, Arizona reported 1,827 new cases, bringing the total count to 40,924 confirmed cases of COVID-19. The day before, the state reported 2,392 new cases, a record single-day high since the outbreak began.

ICU bed capacity in Arizona has reached an all-time high of 83 percent. Wednesday's hospitalization count of 1,582 COVID-19 patients was 62 percent higher than any single day of hospitalizations before June.

Ventilator use is also higher than ever before, with the most recent figures being 44 percent higher than those before June. The Arizona Department of Health Services reported that 346 ventilators were in use as of Wednesday to treat patients with COVID-19.

 

sinnergy

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Uhh, 5 of my employees had corona virus (2 over 50 and obese), and survived this deadly disease that did absolutely nothing to them (1 was barely what you would call sick). They are most certainly not damaged for life, and are back to the hard work they do.

The vast majority of new cases are asymptomatic young people who will also mostly likely (99.7%) suffer no long term effects.

You sound like a hysterical lunatic.

Also, the Spanish flu didn't end society since, you know, we are still here so...
Good for them , but most that end up on the icu have permanent long damage .

And they are investigating what corona does with your lungs when you only get a mild version.

You are not very polite aren’t you?
So you think losing 60 million people is acceptable in this age we live in and what we know about viruses?

It’s a weird virus , I have 2 in my circle that got it , in their early 30s, one had something flu like , was positive for corona and was up and running In 1 week, she is a bit obese .

The other was 3,5 weeks in bed and in pretty bad shape , not overweight and now 13 weeks later still not fully recovered , so don’t think everyone comes off easy.

She even told me yesterday she underestimated Corona, she’s 34 and in good health, no underlaying illnesses.

I bet you haven’t had a virus so heavy that it changed your life, so I am willing to let your rudeness slide , because you can’t comprehend. I have, about 22 years ago, never became my old self.

I am certainly no lunatic , but I hardly want to experience what I experienced when I was 18 years old, and what it took for me to get back to my own life .

Take it as you will.
 
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cryptoadam

Banned
sup with india's +2000 deaths the other day o_ O

was wondering that as well.

Probably a retro re count. Those deaths were most likely from over the past weeks and they only got reported now.

I can imagine a place like india with how big it is and how many people there are sometimes the bureaucracy breaks down.
 

cryptoadam

Banned
Now that the riots are out of the news cycle, back to the Corona scare game.

I am not saying hoax or these cases aren't real, but ya when health professionals doctors media and politicians are coming out and telling us protesting racism is more important then Corona there is 0 trust in them or the leadership.

CNN will start running 24/7 news story crying about AZ/TX/FL (not Cali though of course) and get their paid doctors to come on and fear monger about how the 2nd wave is coming for you.
 

Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
Good for them , but most that end up on the icu have permanent long damage .

And they are investigating what corona does with your lungs when you only get a mild version.

You are not very polite aren’t you?
So you think losing 60 million people is acceptable in this age we live in and what we know about viruses?

It’s a weird virus , I have 2 in my circle that got it , in their early 30s, one had something flu like , was positive for corona and was up and running In 1 week, she is a bit obese .

The other was 3,5 weeks in bed and in pretty bad shape , not overweight and now 13 weeks later still not fully recovered , so don’t think everyone comes off easy.

She even told me yesterday she underestimated Corona, she’s 34 and in good health, no underlaying illnesses.

I bet you haven’t had a virus so heavy that it changed your life, so I am willing to let your rudeness slide , because you can’t comprehend. I have, about 22 years ago, never became my old self.

I am certainly no lunatic , but I hardly want to experience what I experienced when I was 18 years old, and what it took for me to get back to my own life .

Take it as you will.
I almost died of pneumonia at age 4. Took me a long time to be normal again. We are not going to lose 60 million people. I am sorry your friend got it bad, but we are finding out in Texas that >70% of cases are mild.

How about some more information?

Of our three employees who had it:

-One lived in a house of 11 and not a single person living with him got sick.

-One lived in a house of 5 and not a single plerson living with him got sick.

-One lived with his girlfriend and she did not get sick.

- None of them quarantined themselves from their families, though they did stay in their homes for a month, and two claim to have had lots of sex with their wife/girlfriend.

-That is 17 people who did not get sick with direct, long term, exposure. This includes sex which constitutes heavy breathing directly onto someone.

- At the job these men were around about 50 or 60 other workers who they did not infect.

This is either not a very transmissible disease, or most infections are asymptomatic and go unnoticed.

what the hell is up with these States with new record daily highs?

I guess I should be glad we are still testing but Dr. Campbell is going to be so disappointed in us
I already explained this.

1. Workplaces are requiring employees to get tested in mass in order to return to work = lots of asymptomatic cases who have had it for weeks or months are only finding out now they are positive.

2. Protests have caused an uptick.

3. Young people are hitting up bars and nightclubs which are not following the 50% rules and getting it.

I think we will find out this disease is spread by "super spreaders" for some bizarre reason we don't quite understand yet. Maybe people with certain genetic traits are spreaders while others are not?
 
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Chaplain

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"Dr. Michael Osterholm discusses a spike of coronavirus cases in states across the country as rates decline in other states. Dr. Osterholm says we are still 'in this thing for months.'" (6/16/20)
 

sinnergy

Member
Ugh, Great just fucking great, they still don't know shit
It’s just flu bro, man up! I see these figures still post 🤣 must be why the whole world has changed almost overnight, because of nothing , because they like it.

All these with personal evidence... it’s not bad ... it’s not even as bad as flu 🤒

That’s why in Germany they have looked 700 people in their building.

Or tonight we quarantined a whole army unit here in the Netherlands.
 
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ManaByte

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Some people are exempt from the new mask orders, including children aged two and under, those who are hearing impaired or need to communicate with those who are, as well as people who have medical, mental health or developmental disabilities that prevent them from wearing face coverings. Inmates are also exempt from the order.

If you don't want to wear a face mask in CA, just riot and get arrested!
 
I like Trump and its fun to talk about him. Board isn't really talking about Trudeau to much, unless of course he goes black face again (so that should be in about a month LOL).

I mean lets be honest, good or bad, people from all over the world like to talk about Trump. Go to the other place and probably more than half the posters are international and they will poop on Trump all day. If some boring person like HRC or Jeb was president there wouldn't be anything fun to talk about LOL.
I never liked Trump before, but their intense hate for that man is very entertaining. Him winning the 2016 election just elevated their butt hurt status to new heights.
 
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Only 32% of those ICU beds used are coronavirus related.

And?

The biggest concern with Covid was always that it would push already vulnerable hospitals beyond their limit. And that's exactly whats happening in Arizona.

Covid doesn't need to be a world ending plague to cause serious disruptions to normal daily life. It just needs to be a burden the system can't handle.
 
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All Hail C-Webb

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all of texas is rising all over

and sadly terrorists are protesting all over the country and we are not seeing rises in cases (NY, CHI, MN)

it's not the protests, but it may be fake news

I somehow kind of love this post.
I think it's batshit crazy to label peaceful protestors as terrorists, but despite your obvious hatred of them, you took a real look at the data, and drew your conclusion from that.


Texas is rising because companies are requiring testing to come back to work. I heard from a doctor yesterday that said that over 70% of all positives they are getting now are asymptomatic people trying to go back to their jobs that are now reopened.

Basically the 20-40 demographic is finally getting massive testing and showing this thing for what it really is.

I am not trying to say that C19 isn't dangerous to old people, unluckly people with bad genetics, immune compromised fats, or anything like that, but for your average worker this thing is less severe than the flu.

The media, and the greedy healthcare system want you scared as shit though. In my city they are now hospitalizing people for having a fever alone because they want the money they lost by shutting down procedures for two months.

I am pretty sure Hospitals get money from the government for each C19 patient they admit as well (13k is the number a heard).

We need to let this thing burn through and get herd immunity. You either live or you die, and given I have type A blood I could die, but who knows, maybe I already had it.

Not people, not employees, but workers.
And then you bitch out doctors and hospitals for being greedy.

I don't know what kind of sweatshop you run, but you're definitely not making mirrors.
 
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hariseldon

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I somehow kind of love this post.
I think it's batshit crazy to label peaceful protestors as terrorists, but despite your obvious hatred of them, you took a real look at the data, and drew your conclusion from that.

There are undoubtedly people protesting who take the name at face value, black lives matter, and of course they do. However, if you look at the manifesto for black lives matter, it includes tearing down the capitalist system, abolishing the police and ending the nuclear family. Those are pretty extreme positions. To achieve those aims (and it's remarkable how similar they are to Extinction Rebellion) they are holding cities hostage. XR did it by blocking streets and the police let them. BLM have come along with a more violent strategy. We'll destroy your city until you give in to our demands. I'd call that terrorism.
 

Coily

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what? you seriously think BLM "protesters" are not terrorists?
C`mon man, don`t be like that.

Regular BLM people protesting a not terrorists.
But Far-Right Boogaloos trying to get in there are domestic terrorists as are Far-Left Anarco Commies trying to hijack the BLM protests for something else.

BLM protests are legit; it`s about bringing awareness that Black Lives should have the same and equal value as All Lives.

I never liked Trump before, but their intense hate for that man is very entertaining. Him winning the 2016 election just elevated their butt hurt status to new heights.
Because owning the ''libs'' being funny gives him a pass while he fleeced everyone out for his personal gain.

the man is corrupt and is only in office because he needs to curry favors towards those more powerful than him; also because he owes everyone tons of money.

no bank in the US wants to lend this bankrupt in debt loser any money. So Trump is a bitch towards foreign banks and foreign leaders.

Trump is a Cuck in Chief fleecing you out
 
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C`mon man, don`t be like that.

Regular BLM people protesting a not terrorists.
But Far-Right Boogaloos trying to get in there are domestic terrorists as are Far-Left Anarco Commies trying to hijack the BLM protests for something else.

BLM protests are legit; it`s about bringing awareness that Black Lives should have the same and equal value as All Lives.


Because owning the ''libs'' being funny gives him a pass while he fleeced everyone out for his personal gain.

the man is corrupt and is only in office because he needs to curry favors towards those more powerful than him; also because he owes everyone tons of money.

no bank in the US wants to lend this bankrupt in debt loser any money. So Trump is a bitch towards foreign banks and foreign leaders.

Trump is a Cuck in Chief fleecing you out
He is in office because the American people choose him. Let the butt hurt flow through you like all of the other Trump haters. You act as if he is the only corrupt and lying politician LMAO. The Dems are just as corrupt as that man.
 

Coily

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He is in office because the American people choose him. Let the butt hurt flow through you like all of the other Trump haters. You act as if he is the only corrupt and lying politician LMAO. The Dems are just as corrupt as that man.
Yeah, they are all currupt but the Dems are corrupt domestically while Trump is beholden towards foreign entities he owes money to.

But Dems at least are trying to take baby steps in progressing forward (slow as fuck) while Trump Republicans want to take us back to the Gilded Age of 120 years ago when corruption was at its heights.
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C`mon man, don`t be like that.

Regular BLM people protesting a not terrorists.
But Far-Right Boogaloos trying to get in there are domestic terrorists as are Far-Left Anarco Commies trying to hijack the BLM protests for something else.

That dude also said somewhere else that he only believes things that the president says and nobody else. There are crazies all around on every side.
 

cryptoadam

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C`mon man, don`t be like that.

Regular BLM people protesting a not terrorists.
But Far-Right Boogaloos trying to get in there are domestic terrorists as are Far-Left Anarco Commies trying to hijack the BLM protests for something else.

BLM protests are legit; it`s about bringing awareness that Black Lives should have the same and equal value as All Lives.

BLM is a far left marxist feminist terrorist organization. Go listen and read what their leaders actually say. Then look at the violence that happens every time they protest.

What happens is useful idiots get caught up because the slogan presents you with a near impossible choice, great use of language. But the acutal leadership and actual goals and actual methods of BLM is political terrorism. They are not about brininging awareness to black lives, they are about destroying the white racist system and replacing it with a new world created by black minds and black bodies (this is a quote from the leader of the Seattle BLM and CHAZ/CHOP).

They use threats and actual violence (as we see by these riots) to achieve their political goals. Defund the police is a political goal, violence was used to achieve that goal. That is both terrorism and facisim.

And Boogaloos are not Far Right. They are leftist who hate cops but like guns. Just like the John Brown Club. Thats if they aren't made up. Boogaloos by their own words are there to protect and support BLM and they don't like Nazi's. The whole thing is far left.
 

Coily

Banned
BLM is a far left marxist feminist terrorist organization. Go listen and read what their leaders actually say. Then look at the violence that happens every time they protest.

What happens is useful idiots get caught up because the slogan presents you with a near impossible choice, great use of language. But the acutal leadership and actual goals and actual methods of BLM is political terrorism. They are not about brininging awareness to black lives, they are about destroying the white racist system and replacing it with a new world created by black minds and black bodies (this is a quote from the leader of the Seattle BLM and CHAZ/CHOP).

They use threats and actual violence (as we see by these riots) to achieve their political goals. Defund the police is a political goal, violence was used to achieve that goal. That is both terrorism and facisim.

And Boogaloos are not Far Right. They are leftist who hate cops but like guns. Just like the John Brown Club. Thats if they aren't made up. Boogaloos by their own words are there to protect and support BLM and they don't like Nazi's. The whole thing is far left.
that's you opinion man

can't you find the empathy of wanting equal treatment?
 
Early in this thread when the virus broke out I was saying I might never get to see my grandmother again due to her being in a care facility. Unfortunately she passed away last night at the age of 96, one hell of a high score. Didn't get a chance to say goodbye as I wouldn't have been able to visit and she was completely deaf so I couldn't call her. Didn't use email or texting either. I did get to drop off a present for mothers day, but it wasn't the same.

I encourage everyone in this thread to let people know how much they mean to you and how much you appreciate them. I have a problem of never doing this until it is too late and it has happened again. it's a really shitty feeling, I could have said it years ago. RIP Bubby.
 
Early in this thread when the virus broke out I was saying I might never get to see my grandmother again due to her being in a care facility. Unfortunately she passed away last night at the age of 96, one hell of a high score. Didn't get a chance to say goodbye as I wouldn't have been able to visit and she was completely deaf so I couldn't call her. Didn't use email or texting either. I did get to drop off a present for mothers day, but it wasn't the same.

I encourage everyone in this thread to let people know how much they mean to you and how much you appreciate them. I have a problem of never doing this until it is too late and it has happened again. it's a really shitty feeling, I could have said it years ago. RIP Bubby.

Sorry to hear about your loss. Hopefully we are all lucky enough to live to 96.
 
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