Yeah.Truelize said:Is it a power that only Shepard can have?
Yeah.Truelize said:Is it a power that only Shepard can have?
Biggest difference I find so far in insanity is really that some enemies take more shots to die and I get even less time to get shot and die.Cep said:Oh, do I not look stupid.
This would explain his comments about pull/shock-wave/Jacob(the parts that I disagreed on).
Edit: Shit, the only thing he got right was Tali.
Uhhh, every enemy in hardcore also has defenses, so yeah I still need to ditch the defenses first as an adept - and the last thing you want to do is use shockwave against charging enemies or in close range.DY_nasty said:Yeah, none of that shit is helpful on Insanity where every enemy has at least one defensive layer. Even Husks. Shockwave is absolutely useless. Mainly because there are very, very few occasions where you're actually able to strip several enemies defenses at the same time. Nothings more irritating that watching a Centurion get his full shield back because you were too busy bullshitting/clinging to life.
Arde5643 said:Biggest difference I find so far in insanity is really that some enemies take more shots to die and I get even less time to get shot and die.
I don't know, the gameplay tactic isn't that much different between hardcore and insanity, it's just that I have to be more careful about making mistakes.
Every enemy in hardcore has defenses as well, so as an adept you still have to strip down the defenses first.
For the insanity vanguard build I have right now, I'm using shockwave to some extent in long range combat to good use although I lack the assault rifle currently to back it up.
I might ditch the vanguard build for an adept insanity build since vanguard right now doesn't do much for me in terms of enjoyment (might be because I like to pause every second).
Dresden said:Grunt is pretty useful, imo. He comes with incredible health and armor and his Krogan Shotgun kicks ass, as well. He also has the only NPC melee move in the game. I took him to the IFF mission and he'd survive getting mobbed by ten, fifteen husks at a time. Even on Insanity, 600 health and armor is nothing to laugh at, considering he also regens fifty health a second!
Mordin is actually good because his Cryo Blast has the usual 4.5 second timer. So he'll debuff armor and freeze unprotected enemies... not as good as Samara, obviously, but still, quite capable.
Tali is damn near useless because of her stupidly long cooldowns.
Jacob is the worst NPC in the game because he's basically Grunt with half the health and half the utility.
According to the wiki, the Revenant will do more dps over time, but the Widow has the sick one-shot-one-kill factor to it.Gor@n said:Gonna do next play through as soldier and was wondering which to choose when on collector ship upgraded sniper rifle (Widow) or upgraded assault rifle (Revenant)?? Cheers
Dresden said:According to the wiki, the Revenant will do more dps over time, but the Widow has the sick one-shot-one-kill factor to it.
I've never done a Infiltrator run (although Cep and others have done it), but an Adept run was quite fun. There's a lot of downtime at the beginning, though, since you don't have cooldown reduction.SnakeXs said:My second run (evil FemShep Soldier with Rev.) is coming to a close and a Jesusy MaleShep Insanity run with 0 ME1 carryover is brewing... Still can't decide if I wanna go for an Adept or an Infiltrator. Stealth sounds so fun, + Widow, but I also love biotics and Singularity + Warp kaboom is just as exciting.
Any thoughts?
SnakeXs said:My second run (evil FemShep Soldier with Rev.) is coming to a close and a Jesusy MaleShep Insanity run with 0 ME1 carryover is brewing... Still can't decide if I wanna go for an Adept or an Infiltrator. Stealth sounds so fun, + Widow, but I also love biotics and Singularity + Warp kaboom is just as exciting.
Any thoughts?
Cep said:Well I find that the entire cadence of Insanity is a lot different.
Whereas things like shockwave are good enough on hardcore, they are borderline useless on Insane.
Part of the reason lies in the fact that on Insane, all classes strive to remove defenses as fast as possible, so the majority of finishers are useless, and by the time that defenses are gone, there are so many ways to fuck your opposition that you do not even have to build for that.
On insanity:
Jacob: Outclassed
Jack: Outclassed
Grunt: Outclassed, not really, just a tank is not needed
Thane: Outclassed, but still ridiculously good
Mordin: Outclassed
Legion: Drone/Ai-hacking/Widow (Anti-geth/Multiple Y-Mir)
Tali: Drone/Ai-hacking(Anti-geth/Multiple Y-Mir)
Samara: Reave+AR
Garrus: Overload+Mantis/AR+AP Ammo(best ammo in the game)
Zaeed: +50% damage+Mantis/AR+Disrupter ammo(second best ammo in the game)
Miranda: +40% damage (+15% to the squad), +7.5% health+Overload+Warp
Actually, Mordin's cyro when maxxed out recharges the fastest compared to all other squadmates. So he's actually the best crowd control squadmate when all's said and done.Truelize said:It's interesting reading the discussion you two are having. I personally have used Mordin with me for the majority of the game. I find him incredibly useful. I'm actually at the Collector base now at the end of the game and I'm using Mordin and Garrus in my team and doing very well. Just like I did in my first playthrough on veteran.
And I only ever used Mordin's cryo skill against Husks. He is my incinerate machine.
Dresden said:Reave is just so perfect for everything... it synergizes with Champion, which most Vanguards will take for Charge, and it fills up a big hole in their arsenal, as well. With Reave and Pull, you're a half-decent adept if you can't Charge.
Damn, I was one minute late with my edit.Cep said:Fixed that for ya, no charge.
Yeah, thirty seconds is absolutely killer. It also makes her totally useless on the most important missions of the game.DY_nasty said:AP ammo is the best ammo ability in the game when it comes to overall effectiveness. Turns the SMG into a godcannon.
I really want Tali to be good but she's absolutely useless without Shield Drain and the cooldown for the Drone is just flatout retarded.
DY_nasty said:AP ammo is the best ammo ability in the game when it comes to overall effectiveness. Turns the SMG into a godcannon.
I really want Tali to be good but she's absolutely useless without Shield Drain and the cooldown for the Drone is just flatout retarded.
She'd be forgivable if they gave you Shield Drain first, and then the drone. As she is though, she's arguably the most useless in the group. She's probably a notch above Jacob though...Cep said:Disrupter and SMG is also fun to play with as well.
And I agree about Tali. At some point, I am going to make a balance mod and buff the living hell out of her.
Except Reave gives you health back, leaves organics crippled, and does more damage while having an AoE option... Doesn't need to be 'aimed' either.Arjen said:I tried reave, but i found Domination way more usefull.
Most of the stuff reave does, warp does it to.
Jacob is still pretty useful as a pseudo-tank, especially with the new shotgun. His uselessness mainly stems from how inferior he is to Grunt.DY_nasty said:She'd be forgivable if they gave you Shield Drain first, and then the drone. As she is though, she's arguably the most useless in the group. She's probably a notch above Jacob though...
They at least should've given her an AR. I mean damn, Samara has one and she's the same kind of niche squadmate as Tali.Dresden said:Jacob is still pretty useful as a pseudo-tank, especially with the new shotgun. His uselessness mainly stems from how inferior he is to Grunt.
Whereas Tali is dead weight on any level without robots.
Dresden said:Jacob is still pretty useful as a pseudo-tank, especially with the new shotgun. His uselessness mainly stems from how inferior he is to Grunt.
Whereas Tali is dead weight on any level without Geth/Multiple YMIR
DY_nasty said:They at least should've given her an AR. I mean damn, Samara has one and she's the same kind of niche squadmate as Tali.
The strange thing is that there are only two instances where multiple YMIR mechs are a issue, and for those, it's probably easier to just nuke with the Cain. And even then, Legion is better! He has the Widow and I think he gets cooldown reduction, too. :lolCep said:The smaller Mechs are ridiculously weak, so they are not worth the effort, not to mention they have armor, and she sucks at handling that.
She and legion really shine when fighting the geth and multiple giant mechs. Otherwise, there are better.
Samara is not niche. She is very versatile.
I mean in the sense that they only shine in certain situations.Cep said:Samara is not niche. She is very versatile.
Dresden said:The strange thing is that there are only two instances where multiple YMIR mechs are a issue, and for those, it's probably easier to just nuke with the Cain. And even then, Legion is better! He has the Widow and I think he gets cooldown reduction, too. :lol
I'm convinced at this point that Tali's main strength in combat is her waifuability for fanboys.
Reave is so nasty that it pretty much makes her one of the best squad mates around, though. Probably the only one that is legitimately better than Samara is Miranda. When you factor in her ability to use the Vindicator, and also pull and throw for mopping up trash, she's damn good.DY_nasty said:I mean in the sense that they only shine in certain situations.
Samara (outside of Reave) isn't that much better than Jack and Tali.
Dresden said:Reave is so nasty that it pretty much makes her one of the best squad mates around, though. Probably the only one that is legitimately better than Samara is Miranda. When you factor in her ability to use the Vindicator, and also pull and throw for mopping up trash, she's damn good.
DY_nasty said:Oh yeah, and Neural Shock is pointless.
DY_nasty said:Except Reave gives you health back, leaves organics crippled, and does more damage while having an AoE option... Doesn't need to be 'aimed' either.
Arjen said:Health is a non-issue for me, as a sentinel i always have my armor up.
Seriously, dominate is absolutly amazing.
If you're fighting a group of collectors, have one squad mate remove their barrier with warp, cast dominate on them. Everyone incl harbringer will focus on him, then it's freakin easy to pick of targets of one by one.
DY_nasty said:I'm gonna give the Inferno Grenades or whatever they're called a test run soon too.
Not sure how I can modify the cooldown though...
Well if its a wider-area incinerate then its worth a shot with Sheps perks. Zaeed's IG is already faster than Mordin's Incinerate isn't it?Cep said:I have had Zaeed use them, I do not think they are anything special, sort of a disappointment really.
Yeah.DY_nasty said:Well if its a wider-area incinerate then its worth a shot with Sheps perks. Zaeed's IG is already faster than Mordin's Incinerate isn't it?
Because reave is stupidly overpowered pretty much. My builds are designed in such a way that the game doesn't devolve to spam reave at every single time. Hence why I find a use of the secondary skills (AI hack, cyro, shockwave).Cep said:Why the hell would you take AP ammo when Garrus is perfectly capable of bringing it?
Reave is pretty much the best squad skill most classes can take, unless you suck at shooting and want to take a defense skill, or you wish to make things more interesting with Dominate.
Cryo is useless until defenses are off. Until then, Reave does more damage in 1 use than cryo does in 2.
If you find that you must use incendiary(I do not see why, as blood pack regen does not make a noticeable difference. And if they did, Reave and warp exist) Grunt is better than Jacob for that.
Yeah, neural shock is Mordin's totally wasted ability - everything it does, Cyro does it better and maxxed Cyro for Mordin even recharges much faster than neural shock.Cep said:Yeah, she can use the Vindicator, and completely bypasses its biggest weakness (ammo).
Yeah, it and Thane's ammo power are the worst.
DownLikeBCPowder said:Question.. I'm just now doing the (endgamish)suicide mission. But the only person to come and talk to me is Miranda. I get like three options when she asks me if I'm ready.. I chose one but seh seemed not very interested - they're something like "yeah good team we have" something in the middle and "totally ready" Or something. Did I not show enough interest throughout the game to her? Why else would she appear though?
Sir Garbageman said:Are referring to romancing Miranda? If so then you'll know for sure after you go through the Omega 4 relay because that's when your potential love interest makes his / her "offer". With regards to Miranda specifically, I think that if you side with Jack during their cat fight it kills the romance, not 100% sure though.
DownLikeBCPowder said:Well, I figured it out. Bioware is still socially regressive and won't allow female on female interactions. Speaking of thatif I get Morinth way early on and romance her, can I get with her even though I'm a female? Akin to how you can get with Liara in the first whether male or female because she is Asari? I also assume you -cannot- get with Tali still, right? In fact, out of all the teammates, what are all of the viable options?
But.. but. but I'm different than the rest..!Nemesis556 said:I would not recommend romancing her at all. :lol