Foliorum Viridum
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I avoided doing them on Insanity because I could see a few being a fucking headache and I had no reason to gain their loyalty since I'd done it before, but it's not impossible.
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Sniper McBlaze said:
Absolute minimum is 3 crew loyal: Tali, Jack, and Miranda or Jacob.
source: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/2933016
The IFF mission becomes available once you have recruited 8 teammates. There is a survival calculation that will happen during your final boss battle that is improved by limiting your crewmates to 8, so DO NOT recruit Thane, Samara, Kasumi, or Legion.
To rescue the entire Normandy crew, you cannot run any extra missions after their abduction; you must immediately pass through the Omega-4 relay
For everyone to survive the Normandy's journey through the relay you have to make three ship upgrades: Heavy Ship Armor, Multicore Shielding, and Thanix Cannon.
Once you're on the collector base, you need to place loyal persons in all the assigned slots during the missions. You can actually get by with just 3 loyal crew members: a quality tech (Tali), a strong leader (Miranda or Jacob), and a powerful biotic (Jack).
The Vents: Tali in the tubes, Miranda/Jacob as leader.
The Walk: Jack as biotic specialist, Miranda/Jacob as fire team leader. Have Tali escort the crew back to the Normandy.
Hold the Line: Since Tali isn't available, your two Loyal crew will accompany you to the final boss. The survival of the remaining teammates is based on a calculation of their average combat "toughness". If you followed the above guidelines, the remaining crew (Zaeed, Grunt, Garrus, Jacob/Miranda, and Mordin) should provide a high enough score for all to survive even though none of them are loyal.
(Note: I'm pretty sure NOT recruiting Legion or doing his loyalty mission will have some repercussions in ME3. If you decide to recruit Legion, Thane or Samara you will need to run another loyalty mission (for each you bring) or *Mordin* will die in phase 3. If you recruit Kasumi, you'll need to have her loyalty *and* run another loyalty mission.)
To rescue the entire Normandy crew, you cannot run any extra missions after their abduction; you must immediately pass through the Omega-4 relay
For everyone to survive the Normandy's journey through the relay you have to make three ship upgrades: Heavy Ship Armor, Multicore Shielding, and Thanix Cannon.
Once you're on the collector base, you need to place loyal persons in all the assigned slots during the missions. You can actually get by with just 3 loyal crew members: a quality tech (Tali), a strong leader (Miranda or Jacob), and a powerful biotic (Jack).
The Vents: Tali in the tubes, Miranda/Jacob as leader.
The Walk: Jack as biotic specialist, Miranda/Jacob as fire team leader. Have Tali escort the crew back to the Normandy.
Hold the Line: Since Tali isn't available, your two Loyal crew will accompany you to the final boss. The survival of the remaining teammates is based on a calculation of their average combat "toughness". If you followed the above guidelines, the remaining crew (Zaeed, Grunt, Garrus, Jacob/Miranda, and Mordin) should provide a high enough score for all to survive even though none of them are loyal.
(Note: I'm pretty sure NOT recruiting Legion or doing his loyalty mission will have some repercussions in ME3. If you decide to recruit Legion, Thane or Samara you will need to run another loyalty mission (for each you bring) or *Mordin* will die in phase 3. If you recruit Kasumi, you'll need to have her loyalty *and* run another loyalty mission.)
masterkajo
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Sniper McBlaze said:
I played through the game the first time on insanity and it was challanging in some situations but really nothing special. A friend of mine however had a very hard time playing though it - he is just the charge in head frist guy... you will need to take your time, find cover and push and flank with your squadmates. It really is a very entertaining combat (except from 2-3 very very hard situations in the game).
Afaik, not everyone has to be loyal to survive the final mission. Here is the minimum number of loyal squad members to survive:
1. The one sent through the vent has to be loyal.
2. The one sent as the second teams commander has to be loyal or Miranda not loyal.
3. The Biotic has to be loyal (or someone will day at the end).
4. The second second team leader same as nr2.
5. The one who is protecting your crew to go back to the Normady has to be loyal.
6.&7. The two you take to the final fight have to be loyal to survive.
Also make all ship upgrades!
So in particular anyone who ever does something should be loyal. Also still consider that if you choose a loyal squadmember which doesn't have the qualifications for the job is the same as if you pic someone not loyal with the qualifications = death of someone.
For detailed infos visit this: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_2_Guide
2. The one sent as the second teams commander has to be loyal or Miranda not loyal.
3. The Biotic has to be loyal (or someone will day at the end).
4. The second second team leader same as nr2.
5. The one who is protecting your crew to go back to the Normady has to be loyal.
6.&7. The two you take to the final fight have to be loyal to survive.
Also make all ship upgrades!
So in particular anyone who ever does something should be loyal. Also still consider that if you choose a loyal squadmember which doesn't have the qualifications for the job is the same as if you pic someone not loyal with the qualifications = death of someone.
For detailed infos visit this: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_2_Guide
Foliorum Viridum
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I played as a soldier too, and for the most part it was fine. There are just three HORRIBLE bits on Insanity that can very well drive you insane. For me they're
Those all caused me a lot of headaches. Other than that, not too bad.
the final battle on Horizon, the final boss battle and, worst of fucking all, the moving platform fight on the Reaper IFF.
Those all caused me a lot of headaches. Other than that, not too bad.
Foliorum Viridum
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For the most part, it's fine, but there's a few fights where powers that you don't have as a soldier would really come in handy.Jerk 2.0 said:
Despite completing Mass Effect half a dozen times, and now this game twice, I've never been tempted to use a different class, though. It just seems like the story is crafted around Sheperd being a soldier. I should probably try playing a different class one day. :lol
Dark Stalkers
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Infiltrator is supposed to be one of the strongest classes so I hope not.
Castor Krieg
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Deepack said:
Infiltrator is EZ mode all the way. I was surprised that in some cases where my SOldier had trouble I breezed through them as an Infiltrator. Knowing the game also helps:
Reaper IFF --> nuke --> profit
Foliorum Viridum said:
I have always thought this to be a weird argument, but it is beside the point.
Sheps loyalty skill can be changed at any time, plus you squad members are pretty diverse, so there is never a point where you should feel power-starved.
Not to mention that you have access to the revanant + Adrenaline Rush (this shit DOUBLES DPS) OP combo.
And all that is with completely ignoring heavy weapons (which I barely ever used).
Foliorum Viridum
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The problem I found was that in a hard battle, my squad would go down early, which left me without their powers unless I had enough to keep reviving them over and over.
I didn't have anything to revive them in the last boss battle, so once they were dead, I was all alone. That's the only reason I found it so hard, probably.
I didn't have anything to revive them in the last boss battle, so once they were dead, I was all alone. That's the only reason I found it so hard, probably.
Foliorum Viridum
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I did the same thing. :lol It got the point where Grunt was the only one I could rely on not to die every 10ft, but even he would go down when shit got hectic.
Circle T
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* Insane Playthrough Update *
I'm done playing this game. It was mildly entertaining when playing on lower difficulties, but any shred of that has since disappeared on Insane. I've replayed the Collector Ship platform sequence about 100 times now, and can't make any progress. Right at the start, no matter where I tell my squad to go, they just run out and get instantly murdered. Then I'm left trying to fight everything and anything alone. When there is about 10 things trying to kill you at once, I just can't do it.
This game, in my opinion, tries too hard to be a fast-ish paced shooter, but doesn't give the player enough capability to keep up. Maybe I'm just not good enough at it, who knows. But, my list of things that severely annoy me right now is about 87 items long, and not even worth stressing about. So, I'm done with it. Thanks for the help earlier GAF, directing me to not do a New Game+ on my second playthrough. It helped, for a little bit. But I've put up with the issues of this game long enough. It is time to move on.
- My Squad: Mentally Handicapped
- Collector Ship: Unbeatable
- Fun Factor: -1,000%
- Game Discs: In the trash
I'm done playing this game. It was mildly entertaining when playing on lower difficulties, but any shred of that has since disappeared on Insane. I've replayed the Collector Ship platform sequence about 100 times now, and can't make any progress. Right at the start, no matter where I tell my squad to go, they just run out and get instantly murdered. Then I'm left trying to fight everything and anything alone. When there is about 10 things trying to kill you at once, I just can't do it.
This game, in my opinion, tries too hard to be a fast-ish paced shooter, but doesn't give the player enough capability to keep up. Maybe I'm just not good enough at it, who knows. But, my list of things that severely annoy me right now is about 87 items long, and not even worth stressing about. So, I'm done with it. Thanks for the help earlier GAF, directing me to not do a New Game+ on my second playthrough. It helped, for a little bit. But I've put up with the issues of this game long enough. It is time to move on.
Circle T said:
I hate to be that guy, but this has to be the case.
I and a couple of others I know beat the game on insane as our first playthroughs. It is not easy, but there was nothing in it that should have caused this much stress.
And I am hardly some prodigy either. I only ever beat GoW on casual because I found the other difficulties too frustrating.
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Circle T said:
That part is so easy, JUST stay at the very 1st cover you are close to after the cutscene.
The Scions can't hit you with there powers where you are, the other other collectors will never run up to you where you are either.
All you have to do is just be patient with popping out of cover.
Just have you teammates stand further back in cover & have them only cast their powers.
Circle T
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Beating it on Insane and completing a 2nd playthrough were my last 2 achievements, so I had to give it a shot.kai3345 said:
Eh, no offense taken. I'm usually capable of beating a game on the hardest difficulty after playing them a bit. And I've spent quite a lot of time with this game. But I guess, some games you get, some you don't. This is obviously a game that just doesn't fit my play style. And when a game gets to the point of extreme frustration and anger that this one has, I just quit and move on. I'm too old to be getting pissed at a video game.Jerk 2.0 said:
Thank you for laughing at my frustration. I don't think they need to change the level of difficulty. I'm just saying it isn't fun, so I'm moving on. Nothing more. No need to make me feel like shit for not being able to do it.gdt5016 said:
Sir Garbageman
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Finally got through playing through the Overlord DLC. Wish it was a tad longer, but definitely a step in the right direction. I liked it a lot.
Foliorum Viridum
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Calling it easy is pretty ridiculous. Maybe for you, personally, but nearly everywhere you look, this is the section that stumps people.FTWer said:
Hell, I put my Insanity run on hold for two months because it was annoying me so much.
Just started playing Mass Effect 1 on the PC like on sunday. Finished it yesterday. Like it a lot (except some really reallyreally annoying bugs). Tali is freaking awesome, can't wait to start up part 2.
I was infiltrator. God the sniper rifle got crazy overpowered at the end.
I was infiltrator. God the sniper rifle got crazy overpowered at the end.
TheVisualizer
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Wizpig said:
Despite the majority of people who slam the game because they feel your choices in Mass Effect 1 don't matter much, I really think if you've played thru ME1 it makes ME2 a whole lot more enjoyable and memorable. I hope I'm wrong as I want PS3 owners who haven't played it yet to enjoy the game/series as much as I have when they get their hands on it next year.
Vigilant Walrus
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This game is so incredible. My biggest problem is that they are not making MORE content. We need, much much much much more Mass Effect 2 content. I could easily take in 50 hours more, on different planets. I'm really getting soaked into this world.
And the best thing about ME2? ME2, is actually making me like ME1 even more. Suddenly, it's like the pieces fit.
It's like you begin to appreciate it when you got more corners of the puzzles.
And the best thing about ME2? ME2, is actually making me like ME1 even more. Suddenly, it's like the pieces fit.
It's like you begin to appreciate it when you got more corners of the puzzles.
JumpJeff84
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Think I might do a second playthrough as a 'nice guy' to counter the 'mean girl' I did on my first time.
What are people's thoughts on class to pick? I used the Sniper rifle specialty class last time, and would like to try something different.
What are people's thoughts on class to pick? I used the Sniper rifle specialty class last time, and would like to try something different.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE56V5sVj28Whoompthereitis said:
JumpJeff84
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Wizpig said:
What the hell?
Might have to try that...won't be in Insanity though.
Whoompthereitis said:
My personal favorite is Sentinel, though my first run was Infiltrator as well (mainly because it was carried over from ME1 which was an Infiltrator).
There is nothing more fun in this game IMO than slamming an enemy that's frozen with heavy throw. Nada. Zip. Shit is hilarious 100% of the time from beginning to end. This is made more fun by the fact that Sentinel gets the shortest power CDs of any class in the game and you can pretty much chain spam powers at higher levels. All while being pretty much indestructible even on Insanity. Generally paired with AR or shotgun for massive success; the new weapon pack makes that a MUCH harder decision as both the AR and shotgun introduced in there are amazingly fun.
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