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Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
They really should put a guaranteed Ultra Rare in the Victory Pack. THAT would get people interested in participating in those events.

Crusader II... well, i guess its better than getting Eagle III.
 

Melchiah

Member
we do, it's just

1. We have no splash screen so no one knows about the challenges.
2. People would rather farm FBWGG. I thought it was bad on Xbox, it's literally the only gold matches available in public on PS3

I just tried to find players on PS3 for Gold/Geth with unspecified map. One or two stopped by at the lobby, but left either because it wasn't Firebase White, or because I had Kroguard. I decided to start the game on solo with Firebase Hydra. After a while three guys joined, and one of them stayed for the next match as well. We started the next match by the two of us, and again the team was filled up after a while. Seems like it's a good strategy to start the game on solo, others will join eventually.
 

Mindlog

Member
Turian Soldier...man... I just can't get it to click.... he looks so cool but I just can't make it happen.
What kind of weapons do you have?
He's really great with a lot of the SMGs. Even the new Locust can be effective on Gold.

Hopped on to check what I got from the weekend event. Noticed they 'released' the BF3 soldier. Every time BW releases something I end up spending double what I needed to. First I bought a Spectre Pack and didn't get it. Then I got him in a PSP. Then bought 2 more PSPs and a SP just for a random shot at my last UR. Played 3 maps including one with the BF3 soldier. Specced carnage just to check it out, but AR is still my bread and butter.

Commendation Pack: Crusader III.
Goes well with my Eagle III and Valiant III I guess.
Hurricane V reigns supreme.
 

X-Frame

Member
BioWare really seems to like murdering a weapon when they feel it is too good. Or on the flip side, take their sweet time upgrading it when it is clearly too weak.
 

Sajjaja

Member
What kind of weapons do you have?
He's really great with a lot of the SMGs. Even the new Locust can be effective on gold.

Was just using a Phaeston I. Using marksman primarily. It just doesn't flow. Didn't think to try an SMG on him. Would that work well with MM or CS?
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
My poor Carnifex wielding Batarian Sentinel :(.
 

Sai

Member
Got an Eagle II. But it just got a nice buff so I feel pretty decent about it.

[EDIT] - Shock Trooper Upgrade V! My Destroyer will be having good times with it.
 
I didn't get a commendation pack! I got full extraction with 2 krogans. I thought I was done with it and didn't bother again. Didn't even get anything good from the victory pack. Sigh...

Anyways, anyone else keep getting class unlocks from PSPs that they already have? I've unlocked the quarian infiltrator probably 5 times so far. Waste of credits!
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
I didn't get a commendation pack! I got full extraction with 2 krogans. I thought I was done with it and didn't bother again. Didn't even get anything good from the victory pack. Sigh...

Anyways, anyone else keep getting class unlocks from PSPs that they already have? I've unlocked the quarian infiltrator probably 5 times so far. Waste of credits!

You shouldn't be getting classes that you already maxed all appearances. The only ones that DO come back are the common human classes. Unless you're mixing both the female and male Quarian Infiltrator?

If you didn't get your pack, you can ask EA, i heard they are pretty fast on taking care of it.
 
You shouldn't be getting classes that you already maxed all appearances. The only ones that DO come back are the common human classes. Unless you're mixing both the female and male Quarian Infiltrator?

If you didn't get your pack, you can ask EA, i heard they are pretty fast on taking care of it.

Its definitely the same quarian. I hadn't maxed out the character, so that could be it. Will try that. We'll contact EA too. Thanks for the info.
 
Here is how Bioware patches work.

1) Bioware introduces new weapon
2) People like new weapon
3) Bioware patches weapon to make it crapper.
4) Half the people who used to use it still do.
5) Bioware further nerfes weapon
6) No one uses it.
7) Job is now done.

I really dont get what they get out of nerfing things like the carnifex/piranha. The better way to do it would be to make some of the other weapons better so we use those as well.

Stop giving us things like the Argus and we might actually use some new weapons!
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I really dont get what they get out of nerfing things like the carnifex/piranha. The better way to do it would be to make some of the other weapons better so we use those as well.

Their general argument for nerfing versus buffing is the former allows you to drag back overpowered weapons hoping to bring them to the same standard as other weapons, while the former runs the risk of breaking other aspects of the game. Balancing weapons must take into account how they perform against the various enemy factions, and too much focus on buffing can lead to a general overpowering of everything. Their thumb rule is common weapons for Bronze, uncommon for Silver, and Rare/Ultra for Gold/Platinum.

I don't really know if they're doing a good job of it or not, but I do agree with their intentions, that you cant just buff every weapon in the game to match the strongest weapons. All you end up doing is playing catch up while breaking other parts of the game that too need to be buffed, getting caught in a vicious cycle.
 
Their general argument for nerfing versus buffing is the former allows you to drag back overpowered weapons hoping to bring them to the same standard as other weapons, while the former runs the risk of breaking other aspects of the game. Balancing weapons must take into account how they perform against the various enemy factions, and too much focus on buffing can lead to a general overpowering of everything. Their thumb rule is common weapons for Bronze, uncommon for Silver, and Rare/Ultra for Gold/Platinum.

I don't really know if they're doing a good job of it or not, but I do agree with their intentions, that you cant just buff every weapon in the game to match the strongest weapons. All you end up doing is playing catch up while breaking other parts of the game that too need to be buffed, getting caught in a vicious cycle.

I see the point but to me it just seems to be there are very few weapons i want to use now... the weapons i like are:

Harrier
Carnifex
Piranha
GPS
Indra
Hurricane
Eagle

like other than that other guns are just too heavy or useless.

And yes, i dont have the paladin or Typhoon even though ive bought countless damn PSPs...
 
I bought 4 PSPs tonight and got 5 characters that I already have unlocked and maxed out. I still don't have so many characters and the frickin PSP keeps giving me the same ones over and over again. Its frustrating enough to deal with the randomness of the store, but to repeat unlocks is just unacceptable.
 

Omega

Banned
the nerfs aren't that bad.

I don't understand why Carnifex/Pirahna fans are up in arms over such a minor nerf. You could've got Krysae'd or Typhoon'd.

At least the guns are still usable. One just weighs a bit more and the other has 2 less shots per clip.

That's not really anything to cry about.
 
the nerfs aren't that bad.

I don't understand why Carnifex/Pirahna fans are up in arms over such a minor nerf. You could've got Krysae'd or Typhoon'd.

At least the guns are still usable. One just weighs a bit more and the other has 2 less shots per clip.

That's not really anything to cry about.

I think its more the case of, why bother nerfing it?

I agree though, they went way too far on the Krysae. It went from being my go-to gun to one i havent used. they made it completely unusable. I dont see the point of nerfing something so bad that no one ever uses it, why bother? Why not just delete the gun? I havent seen anyone successfully use hte krysae since it happened.

Not sure what happened to the typhoon, its the gun i want most and ive never gotten one. What is the difference with it now?
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
the nerfs aren't that bad.

I don't understand why Carnifex/Pirahna fans are up in arms over such a minor nerf. You could've got Krysae'd or Typhoon'd.

At least the guns are still usable. One just weighs a bit more and the other has 2 less shots per clip.

That's not really anything to cry about.

My Carnifex X weight went from 200% power cooldown to 190%. So i dont really why it bother people so much, but at the same time i wonder why they even changed it. Its strengths has always been its damage, accuracy and low recoil.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
Their general argument for nerfing versus buffing is the former allows you to drag back overpowered weapons hoping to bring them to the same standard as other weapons, while the former runs the risk of breaking other aspects of the game. Balancing weapons must take into account how they perform against the various enemy factions, and too much focus on buffing can lead to a general overpowering of everything. Their thumb rule is common weapons for Bronze, uncommon for Silver, and Rare/Ultra for Gold/Platinum.

I don't really know if they're doing a good job of it or not, but I do agree with their intentions, that you cant just buff every weapon in the game to match the strongest weapons. All you end up doing is playing catch up while breaking other parts of the game that too need to be buffed, getting caught in a vicious cycle.

Also the weapons that did get buffs truly needed them. The Viper is actually practical now and the Harrier went from being the worst gun in the game to one of the best. The Talon has become an extremely well rounded weapon as well. Some weapons (such as the Revenant and Javelin) actually "make sense" now too.

The nerfs seem more dramatic because they're usually pretty big ones, but the gradual buffs and balancing has been great. I've got every gold weapon in the game at X and I'm actually very, very impressed at the fact that Bioware has kept my inventory from turning into a buzzsaw.
 

Tsukumo

Member
[snip] But, it really sucks when you make it to wave 10, complete the objective and everyone else just seems to give up and not bother, especially on gold. I get folks are mostly farming for credits, but damn man, at least TRY to get extracted.

usually this happens when you have one or -OMG- TWO geth infi in your team and everything gets melted in seconds. It's free, fast, easy money. As a matter of fact: why farming on the same map with four characters, when you can farm ANY map with the same character...
So you get to wave 10 without having to use a single consumable, and everyone just goes "Geth saves" and let themselves die: only thing is, the reason why geth infi is so powerful is because it has three decoys who distract the enemy and take away protections and keep groups from flanking. Granted, if you met a player who can solo gold with a geth infi everytin's gon be allry, but most times you just met a try-hard with harrier 1 who's just mimicking what he saw in a video, and then...sorry, you're not a winner. Go tell all your friends, that this is, the end

I really dont get what they get out of nerfing things like the carnifex/piranha. The better way to do it would be to make some of the other weapons better so we use those as well.

You nerf powerful weapons so that when the next dlc hits the game-market, people will fall behind in scores to who already has the new shamelessly, blatantly, morbidly overpowered guns, and they will buy LOADS of premium packs with ACTUAL money instead of farmed in-game credits. Because you HAVE to have them now: this is everyone in school has an I-phone, DS, sport car all over again.
But truth be told, most "nerfs" aren't really that drastic. The Krysae is still an amazing scoped rifle, thing is you have to know how to handle it: it still double-shots, still does tremendous amount of splash damage on headshots, still staggers nasty, stressful enemies like hunters and phantoms. Instead of just shooting in a direction and get killstreaks of pyros, now you have to get a feel of the recoil, you have to manage a longer cooldown, but it's stil a sniper rifle with good damage, reliable even when not hosting and when lagging.
They are working to make the game more balanced and they are being effective. Also, for free (to me at least)

That's a horrible idea. I've played from the very beginning, and spent millions of points on the packages, yet my consumables capacity is still like this:

You can get one jumbo pack every time you complete silver. This means a pack every 15-20 minutes. You are guaranteed 5 of each consumables on each pack, plus, most times, another 5 or 7 of a specific consumable. Or farm a couple of W/G/G and watch your character screen pile up with cobras.

That being said, what would be the best package to buy in order to raise the capacity?

Jumbo. I know you meant between veteran, spectre and premium, but Jumbo is the only way if you want to stock up fast. Otherwise you can keep kroguarding on silver and spam veterans, you will hardly use any consumables.
I understand it's tedious but trust me, being able to play a match and use consumables at the slightest whim without having to wait for the others to blast that spawn right in front of you, or that single turret which is in the way of you completing a gold escort run on wave 10, will make your games much more enjoyable and manageable.And playing using a character with a grenade skill once you have 255 ammo packs is going to be...hihihihihihi
hilarious.
 

Skilotonn

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Can't be mad since I haven't used a class with Carnifex on it in ages, and if I did, it was purely for backup while recharging powers.

Paladin and Talon getting lighter is great news since I messed around with both some time ago.

Gonna check my packages in a while and see what I got.
 

nel e nel

Member
Turian Soldier...man... I just can't get it to click.... he looks so cool but I just can't make it happen.

Marksman + Phaeston = Bullet Tsunami

Seriously. Knock a guy on his ass with Concussive Shot and finish him off with a flurry from the Phaeston. Or stun him with a Phaeston flurry and finish him off with a Concussive shot. Your choice.

Prox mines are so-so, but are good on maps with choke points to soften baddies up.
 

Mindlog

Member
Jumbo. I know you meant between veteran, spectre and premium, but Jumbo is the only way if you want to stock up fast.
JEPs don't have capacity upgrades.

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We also think that Singularity is a lackluster power in many situations right now, but we have plans to address that in the future, and I think players will be very happy with the changes.


The change will make singularity a decent damage dealing power with the ability to set up biotic combos, even on shielded enemies.
They're also finally looking to buff the Wraith next week.

What's old is new again part 8: Asari Vanguard.
The Lift Grenade buff is noticeable.

Update
Eric Fagnan wrote...

We are fixing the Krogan Vanguard's Rage mechanic with the next patch. Hopefully this doesn't make him too powerful, so we'll be keeping an eye on him.
It WILL make him too powerful.
 
But, it really sucks when you make it to wave 10, complete the objective and everyone else just seems to give up and not bother, especially on gold. I get folks are mostly farming for credits, but damn man, at least TRY to get extracted.
I wish they had a little credit bonus for extraction. Then it would be worth sticking it out to the end. Otherwise, what's the point?
 

Melchiah

Member
You can get one jumbo pack every time you complete silver. This means a pack every 15-20 minutes. You are guaranteed 5 of each consumables on each pack, plus, most times, another 5 or 7 of a specific consumable. Or farm a couple of W/G/G and watch your character screen pile up with cobras.

Jumbo. I know you meant between veteran, spectre and premium, but Jumbo is the only way if you want to stock up fast. Otherwise you can keep kroguarding on silver and spam veterans, you will hardly use any consumables.
I understand it's tedious but trust me, being able to play a match and use consumables at the slightest whim without having to wait for the others to blast that spawn right in front of you, or that single turret which is in the way of you completing a gold escort run on wave 10, will make your games much more enjoyable and manageable.And playing using a character with a grenade skill once you have 255 ammo packs is going to be...hihihihihihi
hilarious.

I think you might have misunderstood me. It's not about the amount I have in stock, but the capacity.

I've bought dozens of Jumbo packs, and none of them have given me an increase to Medi-Gel/Ops Survival Pack capacity.

I can finish Silver matches fine without using a single Medi-Gel, depending on which character I use, and even on solo/Kroguard, but on Gold two Medi-Gels isn't enough. I definitely agree, that it would be far more enjoyable to play if their capacity was at 5/6.
 
I've bought dozens of Jumbo packs, and none of them have given me an increase to Medi-Gel/Ops Survival Pack capacity.
I don't think jumbo packs give you that stuff. I've gotten all my extra med-gel/rocket/etc. thru spectre and premium spectre packs.

I'm sitting at 5 rockets/5 ammo/6 gel/5 ops.
 

Melchiah

Member
I don't think jumbo packs give you that stuff. I've gotten all my extra med-gel/rocket/etc. thru spectre and premium spectre packs.

I'm sitting at 5 rockets/5 ammo/6 gel/5 ops.

That's what I said. I think there was a misunderstanding between capacity and stock.
 

Omega

Banned
I think its more the case of, why bother nerfing it?

I agree though, they went way too far on the Krysae. It went from being my go-to gun to one i havent used. they made it completely unusable. I dont see the point of nerfing something so bad that no one ever uses it, why bother? Why not just delete the gun? I havent seen anyone successfully use hte krysae since it happened.

Not sure what happened to the typhoon, its the gun i want most and ive never gotten one. What is the difference with it now?

true, I didn't see a point to nerfing them. At least the Carnifex, I don't see many people using it anymore.

Pirahna I can understand. They wanted to nerf weapons that were "overused" and it is the most overused gun in the game because it's so light. I don't understand why they gave it two less shots, because that's not going to change anything. For the damage it does, and at the weight it does it at, it's still lightyears ahead of every gun.

Typhoon isn't that bad anymore since they fixed the recoil issue but I was watching gameplay pre-nerf, I forgot how much of a beast this thing was. Saw this guy solo platinum and I think he had a Typhoon II, and it was just destroying Atlases, Brutes and Banshees within seconds.

I have a Typhoon IX, it isn't even as close to effective as his Typhoon II was.
 

Sai

Member
Saw this guy solo platinum and I think he had a Typhoon II, and it was just destroying Atlases, Brutes and Banshees within seconds.
I remember that. It's what got me all hype about the Typhoon.

And I didn't even know that the recoil increased as it ranked up. That might explain why I wasn't feeling it much anymore—the nerfs it had didn't make it sound as quite as bad as it felt.

... mad jelly that you have it at IX, by the way. :p
 

nel e nel

Member
I wish they had a little credit bonus for extraction. Then it would be worth sticking it out to the end. Otherwise, what's the point?

I totally get it, it's just that I was trying to knock out the last two maps on gold to get the Unwavering achievement, and twice in 2 days we got all the way to wave 10, completed the objective and then everyone just self-destructed. No one even made attempts to revive anyone. I got the achievement finally, so it won't be as much of a bother, but damn, have a teensy bit of pride.

But yeah, as others have said, an extraction credit bonus would be tits.
 

Omega

Banned
What chu guys think of the Asari Vanguard? Game gave me all of her customizations. Any good builds or combos?

She's my favorite character. Almost solo'd platinum with her. Got to wave 9 before I got instakilled by a Banshee :(

6/6/6/6/0

I just put a Cyclonic Modulator which puts me at about 1200 barrier or something to make up for no fitness. Grenade Capacity V and a Talon and you're good to go.

Lift grenades were pretty decent before the buff, but now it's actually worth taking a grenade capacity.
 

Songbird

Prodigal Son
Hey chaps. Anyone still playing on PC that plays on gold or platinum? I've been keeping with silver and I'm not unlocking anything new. I have to get new jumbos to refill my missiles so my spectre packs are few and far between - My last one had only a freaking arc pistol!

No new N7 classes or weapons. Keep getting Demolisher who does disappointingly low damage against the heavies with grenades even when I maximise power damage. Going to focus on weapon damage and buffing that with the supply station instead.
 

Songbird

Prodigal Son
... wut

You're doing something wrong.
I expect the tech grenade to strip a Phantom's barrier and the homing grenade to put a dent in a Banshee's armour. A shotgun does these faster if I aim right.

The shock nade is a relief against those bastard Geth Hunters though.
 

Melchiah

Member
What's the best build for Demolisher and Paladin? I haven't used them much, and I'd like to know how to get the most out of them.
 

Tsukumo

Member
I think you might have misunderstood me.

I did ^_^

I can finish Silver matches fine without using a single Medi-Gel, depending on which character I use, and even on solo/Kroguard, but on Gold two Medi-Gels isn't enough. I definitely agree, that it would be far more enjoyable to play if their capacity was at 5/6.

Well, in that case I'd stick to spectre packs. To me the fact that you can get one every time you complete gold means less stress if I get lvl 4 consummables. And Premiums seem to drop lvl 4 for the most part. Mindlog posted something a while about buying 10 spectre packs and 10 psps and he got more ultra rares in the spectres. I may be wrong.
Again.
 
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