Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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Anybody able to make me a Marauder Shields avatar? I lack technical skills, and can't find an image of the marauder with the shields up on the screen, don't really know how to pull it from the video. Doesn't even need to be from that scene, any marauder will do (though not as heroically, to be sure!).

Oh, and if I can build up the willpower to get back into the multi (Single player- LOL) I will name my next character Marauder Shields- A Turian Soldier and a hero.
 
I never played Mass Effect at all, so I didn't care about reading spoilers.

I think it's kinda funny. MGS4 was ruined by Snake not dying in the end (well, this wasn't the only fault, but I was really expecting it and it would have made sense - instead Kojima didn't have the balls to do it).

And ME gets ruined by Shepard dying.
EDIT: got it already, my assumption was wrong, don't need more replies. Just watching the video.
EDIT2: Okay, I don't fully understand. Is the main problem that there is no good ending? Then my assumption is still somewhat valid. MGS4 had a "good" ending and that sucked. ME3 seems to have only bad endings, so that sucked. Or is the problem that the overall bad ending is almost the same and is really really bad and non-logical? Which would also be quite similar. A bad sucky ending. And MGS4 sucked because of the "horray, everyone is happy", which didn't really fit either.

It's interesting that the fan base of those 2 games think completely opposite (maybe it didn't make sense for shepard to die, idk). Snake shooting himself in the end (or getting shot dead) would have been really the proper way to end the Metal Gear Solid series.

It would have been interesting, if the outcry would have been similar in the case of a different MGS4 ending.

(perhaps someone else already mentioned this in here, didn't want to read through the whole thread).
 
Dresden said:
Imagine if you were the dude responsible for the conclusion to Tuchanka, or the Geth-Quarian arcs, or even the stuff like Jack in Grissom or the Asari monastery.
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Yeah, must be pretty disheartening for the ones responsible for much of the hard work being done in other areas of the game.
 
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Last Hearth said:
No, actually "hold the line" is the motto taken up by the "takebackmasseffect" group. They are the pissed fans who are demanding a fixed ending.
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Plus, the term "hold the line" is used a lot by non-violent protesters when the police start beating them or shooting them with rubber bullets.
 
jimi_dini said:
I never played Mass Effect at all, so I didn't care about reading spoilers.

I think it's kinda funny. MGS4 was ruined by Snake not dying in the end (well, this wasn't the only fault, but I was really expecting it and it would have made sense - instead Kojima didn't have the balls to do it).

And ME gets ruined by Shepard dying.

It's interesting that the fan base of those 2 games think completely opposite (maybe it didn't make sense for shepard to die, idk). Snake shooting himself in the end (or getting shot dead) would have been really the proper way to end the Metal Gear Solid series.

(perhaps someone else already mentioned this in here, didn't want to read through the whole thread).
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Uhm...but that's not what is even occurring here...sigh.
 
Dresden said:
Imagine if you were the dude responsible for the conclusion to Tuchanka, or the Geth-Quarian arcs, or even the stuff like Jack in Grissom or the Asari monastery.
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Yeah, I'd want his head. Those scenes were amazing, seriously I'm actually doing a 2nd playthrough and they're just as good the 2nd time around. They really have made us care about the squad members of the course of these 3 games. Yea if the plan was to raise speculation/buzz....sigh
 
Zeliard said:
I'm being totally genuine. I literally just beat it minutes ago and have ignored the ending talk to avoid spoilers, so I'm just curious why it got such a harsh reaction.

Gonna go check the other endings on youtube now.
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Are you a day one guy/girl? Meaning, have you actually taken the time to create your character starting from ME1 and bring him or her all the way through ME3? iI can see someone just jumping on board not really having a problem with this lamebrain ending, but someone who is heavily invested in the series from day one should have a problem with the lack of real closure.
 
jimi_dini said:
I never played Mass Effect at all, so I didn't care about reading spoilers.

I think it's kinda funny. MGS4 was ruined by Snake not dying in the end (well, this wasn't the only fault, but I was really expecting it and it would have made sense - instead Kojima didn't have the balls to do it).

And ME gets ruined by Shepard dying.

It's interesting that the fan base of those 2 games think completely opposite (maybe it didn't make sense for shepard to die, idk). Snake shooting himself in the end (or getting shot dead) would have been really the proper way to end the Metal Gear Solid series.

(perhaps someone else already mentioned this in here, didn't want to read through the whole thread).
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This isn't why people are complaining at all. Guess you didn't care about the games and didn't care about reading the thread either.
 
That colour blind Twitter thing is hilarious. I'm ashamed to say it took me a minute to get it.

Cagey said:
Real notes from Walters about how they devised the Mass Effect 3 ending.

Beaten! Took the images down for space.
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heliosRAzi said:
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sflufan said:
LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE - the very last line written on a sheet of notebook paper that discusses the outline for the ending of Mass Effect 3. This was taken from the iOS app "The Final Hours of Mass Effect 3" ($2.99)

"The Truth" DLC - just ignore this piece of 4chan garbage.
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Ah, I see. I guess 'Lots of speculation from everyone' is going to achieve meme status very soon.
 
rififi said:
Plus, the term "hold the line" is used a lot by non-violent protesters when the police start beating them or shooting them with rubber bullets.
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Also, what mordin says if he dies in the suicide mission in me2.

"Tell them...I held the line".

Which was probably Mordin joking in his final moments.
 
jimi_dini said:
I never played Mass Effect at all, so I didn't care about reading spoilers.

I think it's kinda funny. MGS4 was ruined by Snake not dying in the end (well, this wasn't the only fault, but I was really expecting it and it would have made sense - instead Kojima didn't have the balls to do it).

And ME gets ruined by Shepard dying.

It's interesting that the fan base of those 2 games think completely opposite (maybe it didn't make sense for shepard to die, idk). Snake shooting himself in the end (or getting shot dead) would have been really the proper way to end the Metal Gear Solid series.

(perhaps someone else already mentioned this in here, didn't want to read through the whole thread).
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It wasn't ruined by Shepard dying, at all.

It was ruined by its lack of answers.
 
jimi_dini said:
I never played Mass Effect at all, so I didn't care about reading spoilers.

I think it's kinda funny. MGS4 was ruined by Snake not dying in the end (well, this wasn't the only fault, but I was really expecting it and it would have made sense - instead Kojima didn't have the balls to do it).

And ME gets ruined by Shepard dying.

It's interesting that the fan base of those 2 games think completely opposite (maybe it didn't make sense for shepard to die, idk). Snake shooting himself in the end (or getting shot dead) would have been really the proper way to end the Metal Gear Solid series.

(perhaps someone else already mentioned this in here, didn't want to read through the whole thread).
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We don't give a shit about that...

WATCH THIS
 
Dresden said:
That's not the case at all. Why do people just barge in here and assume this?
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Haha a other classmate finished the game and said "what was wrong with the ending?".
I said it eliminates all my effort i put into my save file 2 weeks before release you know play almost 80~90 hours in 5 days and then get shit on the last 10 min.

He was like oke i only played ME 3 i was like dam man you're doing it wrong no wonder you have no attachment to your save file.
 
Any thoughts (plot hole?):

Prince Lex wrote...

I posted this already, but it got buried.

Since the app proves beyond all reasonable doubt that the two squadmates with you running to the beam definitely die, doesn't that back up the indoctrination theory? Since both squadmates can and have appeared on the Normandy, even if you saw their dead bodies.
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Last Hearth said:
Sure, there are some people who wanted Shepard to live, but really it's not even one of the top 5 reasons the ending sucked.
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Yeah ideally I wanted Shepard to live so I could get my cliche but awesome ending with him chillin on the beach with his LI and best bro Garrus.

But it's not nearly as bad to me as ruining civilization and getting NO answers at all. That really pissed me off.
 
I got a question for those who read the leaked script last year: Did you ever imagine the shitstorm (at least from fans) would be this big?
 
Zeliard said:
So, I just beat it. Not gonna read all 10k posts so can someone summarize the crux of the rage? Not to stir the pot, but what was so god-awful terrible about that that it demands a petition to have the entire ending changed? The kid?

I picked to have Shep pull an Illusive Man and control the Reapers. Dunno what happens with the other endings yet; I need to check them on youtube. I thought the ending I got was appropriate. Shepard sacrifices himself for the good of all, both organic and synthetic. I had built up my character to care about both equally so it was fitting. His sacrifice at the end was also very, uh, Jesus-like, which is basically the character in a nutshell.

The one major beef I had with the ending was with Harbinger. First of all, he should have been guarding the transport beam entire damn time. It's completely silly that it was guarded by a basic Destroyer.

And then Harbinger just lands and completely cleans house - nearly murdering Shepard when everything else had failed to do so - then just leaves? Where exactly did he go? That got a serious short shrift. He's built up as not only the oldest and wisest Reaper, but utterly superior in a fight, and he just disappears when his species' fate hangs in the balance.
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The biggest issue I have with it was that you spend a good chunk of the game quelling an organic/synthetic war, and are unable to bring it up at the end when the 'inevitable' cycle will happen. The kid says that you being there already shows the plan failed, but you as a player were unable to hammer in any kind of argument or defense, which sucks even more when this is in a game built upon your choices.

Then there's stuff like Joker at the end. He's running away, otherwise he wouldn't be in the middle of a jump like that. Why? It's out of his character. Then he lands on that planet and I saw Tali. I brought Tali with me. How did she teleport up there?

Essentially, the more your think about the ending, the less sense it makes. The entire game is written well(kid and intro aside), and they handled the geth situation extremely well. Javik especially has interesting insight. Then the finale throws it out the window...it's mind boggling, and there's no way they didn't realize that.
 
You know what. I'd like to see a game set in the ME universe where you play as Kirahe (spelling) commanding the STG. It'd be a top down tactical shooter (real time or turn based) with a Salarian team. Don't care what they are doing as long as they are holding the line.
 
Heavy said:
Any thoughts (plot hole?):
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It is not a plot hole if it isn't in the game, which it isn't. Cut content is cut content. It is no longer canon and should not be treated as such.
 
Zomba13 said:
You know what. I'd like to see a game set in the ME universe where you play as Kirahe (spelling) commanding the STG. It'd be a top down tactical shooter (real time or turn based) with a Salarian team. Don't care what they are doing as long as they are holding the line.
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Game idea officially...REJECTED! :P
 
Shep dying is not the issue. I think the issues are the following.

-The whole not knowing anything that happened. (Relays? Civilizations?)

-My teammates on the ground assault (Garrus Liara) ended up on the normandy.

-Garrus is gonna starve to death on that planet.

-The three choices are completely goofed.
 
As a writer, I can understand the desire to not do something expected. If everyone sees the ending coming a mile away (in this case, Reapers get destroyed and everything is awesome), then your instinct as a creator of artistic content is to take a left turn from the expectations and do something surprising.

While this is fine (there are plenty of video games that I love that have twist endings), you have to make sure you do it well. You can't create surprise by conflicting with the established fiction. You can't do it by making characters act contrary to how they normally do (or in the case of Shepard, simply not giving you a choice to act at all).

Basically, at every possible turn that Walters could have made a surprise ending good, he fumbled. And he doesn't even know he fumbled.

The sad thing is, doing the assumed ending in stuff like this is fine. Whereas a standard "Reapers are dead, let's all look at the galaxy" Empire Strikes Back-style ending would have emphasized how much the Mass Effect series was about the journey, Mass Effect 3's actual ending went back and denigrated the journey itself in addition to not providing a good close to it.
 
Dresden said:
That's not the case at all. Why do people just barge in here and assume this?
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"Hey I didn't play the game and refuse to read any of the posts in this thread about the ending, much less any of the dozens of articles about the ending, but wow you guys are sure crazy for thinking what I'm imagining you must be thinking about the thing I know nothing about!

Oh and can someone summarize it for me?"
 
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