Riposte
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She's fugly.
Anyway, isn't she just projecting her personality from the Normandy to a re-purposed dead body? (which was an AI to begin with?) Is the Normandy affected by space magic?
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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She's fugly.
Anyway, isn't she just projecting her personality from the Normandy to a re-purposed dead body? (which was an AI to begin with?) Is the Normandy affected by space magic?
Man, this thing really does have the questions I asked myself and them some. It is a true testament to how much nonsense the ending is, that it allows for all kinds of interpretations, retcons, diverging threads and even a completely different fiction to be born out of it, one that doesn't have anything to do with the 100+ hours you put into the trilogy. The only thing it does which I don't like is that probably somewhere, some dumb person is nodding along thinking that the ending was great/successful because it leaves you with so many questions, so it must be deep and thoughtful.
She looks better with her tight skin suit
Still better than getting massacred by the Reapers.
Zomba13
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But wasn't that VI designed to be hostile? It was military or something right? I honestly can't remember.
If the whole pattern is the same, shy don't believe the end will be as well?
You should just change your username to Vent Kid.
He's on our side
lastplayed
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Pure organic and pure synthetic life have been removed from the Universe. Space magic has changed everything at a molecular level.
See: http://i.minus.com/iWFXcczJkY4YN.jpg
Whose side?
When was it stated that the mass relays tech was so far beyond the races that rebuilding one would be impossible?
And as you stated, our cycle was different. Our cycle proved that they could exist peacefully. So why would ghost child continue with the story that it will always happen?
Zomba13
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I see where you are going with this. Lesbian clone/doppelganger sex with EDI in her body and EDI as the Normandy interfacing and shiz.
AdmiralSnackbar
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It sounds like the easiest "choice" is to not buy the game and pretend the reapers won.
or Peruvian Whiskey if you are into Kaidan.
I should really stop talking up about Kaidan every chance I got
What makes you think our cycle is different? Maybe synthetics joined organics in their final hour too in the other cycles.
SerArthurDayne
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The bank machine or whatever that self destructs when you find it was a hostile AI.
My problem with Space Kid is basically, I suppose, that he created the Reapers because organics were almost wiped out. Either his society was almost wiped out, or he is a Reaper King and he almost wiped organics out before learning his lesson. From that point on he created a cycle where he reaped every 50,000 years to prevent this from happening.
HIS only support is one occurence. Why is the Geth solution less persuasive?
I don't recall. But basically all tech was based off of them, but we still had no fucking idea how exactly the relays themselves worked.
My problem with Space Kid is basically, I suppose, that he created the Reapers because organics were almost wiped out. Either his society was almost wiped out, or he is a Reaper King and he almost wiped organics out before learning his lesson. From that point on he created a cycle where he reaped every 50,000 years to prevent this from happening.
HIS only support is one occurence. Why is the Geth solution less persuasive?
I don't recall. But basically all tech was based off of them, but we still had no fucking idea how exactly the relays themselves worked.
So? That could be what is needed to have peace.
Biggest regret coming into this game: letting Ashley live instead of Kaidan.
I'd rather have Kaidan talking about beer while hitting on my manshep instead of Botox Girl doing stuff I don't give a fuck about.
Why is it on a whole other level? I imagine that's what all the biggots say when it comes theirs. With blacks that was just their skin being different, but gays have different sex practices, that's on a whole other level!
And arguing that the catalyst has witnessed it is still stupid because that really shouldn't be the nature of things. It's a stupid concept that life cannot coexist simply because they have different hardware and that must trump everything else for some unknown reason.
littleworm
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I do see the organics becoming more robotic, but with respect I don't see how the Normandy looks anymore organic.
Barack Lesnar
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Uhh no.. wtf. Her face is pretty and not generic looking and her body is unbelievable. Probably the hottest body I've ever seen in a game , especially in the last mission when infiltrating Cerberus' base. She looked unbeeeeelievable during that mission and the cut scenes. The whole time I was like thank you for inviting yourself to this mission. I was thinking about checking my save files and replaying that mission to take some pics for you guys lol. It was like she suddenly got boob and ass implants.
Because you and ghost kid say that the cycle is different this time.
Why would they need to? True there is nothing stopping them but again, why would they need to.
Those hinged shoulders! So hot!
Yep, EDI has the green circuitry showing. She's got synthetic in her synthetic, etc. Organics are partly synthetic, synthetics are uber-synthetic.
only because this time the organics were developed enough, so ghost kid gave us tons of options to decide our own future. (see? there's no reason to destroy us anymore)
Because all of your examples are human vs. human.
Barack Lesnar
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Also perhaps you didn't have the right outfit. I switched her outfit to the one that looks similar colors to Miranda. Try that one.
Try the white outfit
SerArthurDayne
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Ooh. A deft touch to make him stab himself.
And this cycle is absolutely not special. This cycle just happens to have the plans at a ready state, and Space Jesus to take it home. Space Kids original solution was fine. He just lets Shep bleed out instead of bringing him up the heavenly stairway.
littleworm
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Much like the reason the Quarians made the Geth, for labor.
Apophenia Overload
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Speaking of which, why does a robot need to sit like this. I need answers.
Pandering.
Are you unable to get over the circular logic? If the cycle is broken then it proves the Catalyst has always been wrong. You prove the kid wrong when you see him. That's explicitly why he offers you new choices. He's wrong.
But you don't need that. You simply don't need Reapers coming in and killing everyone. You're assuming that mixtures are peaceful.
There's another instance of a synthetic/organic war, the Metanic War -or whatever was called- that Javik mentioned. The Protheans won.
So in two instances organics could easily survive a synthetic war (one by plain old winning the war, the other by brokering peace).
You only have the reaper's word to think that this war is inevitably lost by the organics, but the reapers may as well be lying.
Hard evidence points to organics being safe from synths that are not the reapers. Dubious witnesses say that they are not.
e: there's also that VI civilization in ME2 that's 100% pacific.
Futurevoid
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Sure, but the game never states that Synthesis is the "all in one" solution that brings peace. The Catalyst says "there is another option" and allows you to choose which you think is the best solution for enduring peace and breaking the cycle. He certainly views synthesis and evolved hybrids as the most likely to help maintain balance but it's never a guarantee. The only one he truly condemns is the one to destroy all synthetic life as he feels it's the quickest path back to establishing the same cycle.littleworm said:
If you think about it, EDI might somehow, magically, got and expressed the genetic material that are responsible for coding photophores , and is now glowing inside her circuit.
If you restart ME1, you might finish the whole trilogy just in time for the the alleged DLC. It's not too late, Kaidan is worth it
No, I said that in the very game where they state this evidence points to the contrary. In fact, all the literary themes of the game point to the contrary.
My reason why this shouldn't be is because it's a remarkably childish notion that because things are different they have to kill each other. Our own culture demonstrates that this petty form of xenophobia can in fact be overcome and eliminating this kind of bigotry is one of the halmarks of advanced societies and progression of society.
Beyond that, people who come up with these AI doomsday scenarios where the AI is evil and has to kill organics generally know little about AI and have given little to thought to what it means to actually try and make an intelligent entity and what that would entail.
Further, you've completely ignored a number of the other arguments given. I've already explained to you why you're making a false dilemma, but you have yet to actually address this. To you, you think there could have only been two answers when clearly there are at least 3 acknowledged in the game, let alone any number of ones (I even gave you a fourth myself), especially if you're considering a super-intelligent being that could think of far better solutions that you or I should be able to.
Seriously though, EDI was a very tongue-in-cheek joke. She's like a 60's robot bombshell. Her design is retro as hell. I mean, even the part where the body is acquired with Dr. Eva has that Bond music playing as she's about to get away.
I didn't think there was a lot of pandering going on there. Now, Ashley? Botox injections, ugly outfits, shitty hair. Pander to the max.
I didn't think there was a lot of pandering going on there. Now, Ashley? Botox injections, ugly outfits, shitty hair. Pander to the max.
Riposte
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Nah, she's fugly, especially in the face. And you are a weird dude typing up weird paragraphs.
How many fan-fics of Joker x EDI do you think there are in the world?
Fan-service in ME3 reached your average JRPG's level of absurdity.
That's an awesome way of explaining, for myself anyway, how the synthesis ending altered synthetics in an organic manner. Though... I think this would be much much too kind to the writers
Escape Goat
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Theres a couple of gratuitous butt shots of Miranda that I'm noticing as I play ME2 again. The camera is situated just below and slightly off center of Miranda's sweet behind. Not mad though but it was pretty funny.
I personally think the Synthetic ending is the final solution for the galaxy. Just because the Geth are ready to live peacefully doesn't mean another synthetic race can't be developed in the future that would fuck everything up and prove the Catalyst correct.
Freeza Under The Shower
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"I'm commander Shepard and this is my favorite ass on th- "
*transmission cut by [redacted]
Barack Lesnar
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You're a jerk and you're wrong. Try the miranda-esque outfit. If it wasn't almost 1 am I'd load up the game right now and own your sharp knees ass with maxed out 1080p pics.
Yet in all
Yet he apparently had some solutions to his wrongness cooked out for when you ultimately get there. Solutions, I might add, that he either could've put into practice himself long before you got there, and which contradict what he was trying to do and the reason the reapers exist in the first place, or which make no sense as to why the cycle must exist and chaos is undesirable.
Exactly, people are using the Geth as the final evidence that the Catalyst was wrong.
Zomba13
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Something I just read about the ending on that indoctrination theory forum thingie.
The ending, red or blue, red pill or blue pill. Mac said he wanted the ending to be Matrixy.
Blue pill/ending = control = no waking up in London somehow, red pill/ending = destroy = waking up in London somehow. Red pill = escape to real world, waking up from the Matrix.
Again, obviously not what was intended but still interesting, especially as Walters wanted the ending to be Matrix like.
The ending, red or blue, red pill or blue pill. Mac said he wanted the ending to be Matrixy.
Blue pill/ending = control = no waking up in London somehow, red pill/ending = destroy = waking up in London somehow. Red pill = escape to real world, waking up from the Matrix.
Again, obviously not what was intended but still interesting, especially as Walters wanted the ending to be Matrix like.
Eh the entire series well at least since 2 pretty much tries to show that all AI's won't necessarily kill all organics. So while that kid may or may not have a point it does run counter to that. I think that is where a lot of the hate come from well among other things.
Pretty much thought out the games you are told and shown time and time again that synthetics and organics can get along. Only to be told in the last five minutes that "No that's a lie. Synthetics only exists to kill organics. No, don't even try to argue with me on this Shepard. Just except it as the truth. Now pick your ending."
Those sweet sweet ass shots. (At least it means we don't have to stare at her wide butterface.)
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