Also re-hiring voice actors is expensive, unless they use stock audio. Unless Bioware/EA started acting customer-friendly, I just don't see any cost-friendly solution to fix the clusterfuck that is ME3's ending.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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Also re-hiring voice actors is expensive, unless they use stock audio. Unless Bioware/EA started acting customer-friendly, I just don't see any cost-friendly solution to fix the clusterfuck that is ME3's ending.
Escape Goat
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and furthermore did they land on Earth? *head explodes*
Apparently when mass relays explode, they take out all life in the system. A little known fact from some DLC pack none of us bought.
lastplayed
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So he was alone then? I'm sure he said "we" because I instantly thought he might be with my missing squad mates. Maybe I imagined it, argh.
Vire
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The whole indoctrination theory is interesting, but ultimately falls apart because of the post game credits sequence. You get a post game credits message that says "You defeated the Reapers. Shepard is a legend blah blah". And the scene after the credits doesn't make sense if you are going along with this theory.
Unless, you are crazy enough to believe that that sequence takes into account the ACTUAL ending of the potential DLC...
Time to take off your tin foil hats folks. No happy ending, deal with it.
Unless, you are crazy enough to believe that that sequence takes into account the ACTUAL ending of the potential DLC...
Time to take off your tin foil hats folks. No happy ending, deal with it.
Zomba13
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Because apparently he became a big ass fucking chicken in the last 10 mins of the game.
That should be flipped, that's not how those work. Blue is on top.Since Shepard was knocked out, it could have given Anderson enough time to go to the console room.
You don't want to work for BioWare one day, do you?
But I wanted to pick my color. :/
Flipped because . . . OCD.
EmCeeGramr
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No
Also the people with you when you were hit by the beam are perfectly fine
And tail and Garrus are gonna starve to death
And if you picked synthesis then even the leaves are cyborgs
If this is actually true that means pretty much everyone in the entire Galaxy is dead except for whatever ships were already actively traveling or those that didn't have a relay in their system so they weren't involved in the games. And Joker might have fast reactions, but he managed to hit the relay right as the Crucible fired and blew them all up?
Psychoward
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Nope, Blue is left of Shepard, Green is Middle, Red is Right.
Jake Tower
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I like it!
.....Exactly, oriented in that position that would make blue on top, red on bottom...
edit: oh it's pointing the wrong way horizontally.
There are unused voice files on the discs for Joker during the "run for the conduit" sequence where he says he will save the day and won't let you get all the credits for the victory. He's supposed to be there when you run to the beam and give you cover fire but it was cut out :lol.
Plus he managed to pick up your squad members who tried to get to the conduit with you!
I had . . . .
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35966298&postcount=4240
I can't think right now.
EmCeeGramr
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Honestly they could just say that it's a different kind of explosion
Doesn't help the quarian species and krogan leadership stranded on earth making all your previous decisions in the last three games pointless
Doesn't help the quarian species and krogan leadership stranded on earth making all your previous decisions in the last three games pointless
That was awesome. Thats all we wanted. To see how our choices affected the battle.
tonkatsu_ramen
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Just finished the game and watched the other 2 endings. I am pretty disappointed with the way the game ends.
I would of been fine with all 3 endings if they added some post war scenes of your squadmates lives (i.e. Shepard and tali building a house on Rannoch, Liara returning full-time as the shadowbroker). It doesn't even have to be CG, just put in some concept art or something during the credits. If JRPGs can do it I 'm sure Bioware could as well.
My guess is that the reason they made such a vague ending is because EA is gonna make the red ending canon so they can make ME4.
I would of been fine with all 3 endings if they added some post war scenes of your squadmates lives (i.e. Shepard and tali building a house on Rannoch, Liara returning full-time as the shadowbroker). It doesn't even have to be CG, just put in some concept art or something during the credits. If JRPGs can do it I 'm sure Bioware could as well.
My guess is that the reason they made such a vague ending is because EA is gonna make the red ending canon so they can make ME4.
Is the audio from Gurren Laggan? Seems someone mixed it with the trailers and stuff. It made me remember the first teaser with the random space marine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAmVVAjZZeM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAmVVAjZZeM
Battlestar Gallactica says hi?
lastplayed
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What i mean is that the coloured options are on the left side of the wheel, so rotate the image 180 degrees and the red colour is actually the paragon option.
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Riposte
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My fanfic alternate ending:
Ghost boy says Shepard has been indoctrinated from the very beginning of the series (and that his past and personality was decided for him), but only from an outsider Reaper who is working against the others or possibly helping them by making Shepard reckless and irresponsible (based on actions taken). While explaining this he shows you the true form of this Reaper and the physical representation of indoctrination:
http://www.abload.de/img/dw9tkb9.jpg
Ghost boy says Shepard has been indoctrinated from the very beginning of the series (and that his past and personality was decided for him), but only from an outsider Reaper who is working against the others or possibly helping them by making Shepard reckless and irresponsible (based on actions taken). While explaining this he shows you the true form of this Reaper and the physical representation of indoctrination:
http://www.abload.de/img/dw9tkb9.jpg
How mad are you?
By the way, how are any of you going to "cope" with the lackluster ending?
I'm basically just going to follow the post-modernist doctrine which states that interpretation is up to the reader, rather than the author. Therefore, because the final ending doesn't make any sense, I'm just going to think that Shep died with Anderson on the Crucible+Citadel, while the Reapers were all killed by it. That's what happens and I'm just choosing to ignore whatever Mac Walters & Co. thought was a good idea for a multi-million year-long franchise.
I preferred the "Everything after interacting with the beacon on Eden Prime in ME1 was just Shepard hallucinating."
I'm basically just going to follow the post-modernist doctrine which states that interpretation is up to the reader, rather than the author. Therefore, because the final ending doesn't make any sense, I'm just going to think that Shep died with Anderson on the Crucible+Citadel, while the Reapers were all killed by it. That's what happens and I'm just choosing to ignore whatever Mac Walters & Co. thought was a good idea for a multi-million year-long franchise.
I preferred the "Everything after interacting with the beacon on Eden Prime in ME1 was just Shepard hallucinating."
lastplayed
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BioWare can do it. Dragon Age's text epilogue was pretty nice.
Slackbladder
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The Control and Destroy options kinda' make sense. But Synthesis? That is utterly nonsensical. It is basically God changing the very nature of things in the blink of an eye (and no one notices). It's preposterous!
And I still can't play a saved game. I'm working 12 hour shifts so I only have a few hours to spare and Bioware lock me out of my saved games. Thanks Bio-shaft!
And I still can't play a saved game. I'm working 12 hour shifts so I only have a few hours to spare and Bioware lock me out of my saved games. Thanks Bio-shaft!
BannedEpisode
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Im not happy with the ending but I'm probably one of the few people that like the after credit scene. Yeah its cliche as hell but it leaves the door open for the actual ending to be a fabrication of the story. It also explains why the kid is the catalyst, self insertion and all that.
But blegh. Seriously.
Just to clarify, I went with destruction. When it came down to it I wanted to make sure the reapers were gone, despite the implications involving the geth/edi/ect.
It feels like everything was kinda pointless. The relays are gone so everyone is pretty much fucked. No closure.
I just dont know.
But blegh. Seriously.
Just to clarify, I went with destruction. When it came down to it I wanted to make sure the reapers were gone, despite the implications involving the geth/edi/ect.
It feels like everything was kinda pointless. The relays are gone so everyone is pretty much fucked. No closure.
I just dont know.
well, for me, the Synthetic ending simply meant everyone is now both Synthetic and Organic as mentioned and they all continued to rebuild after the Reapers were destroyed.
EmCeeGramr
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Remember all those old ME threads
Debating geth and quarian ethics, whether the genophage as justified, whether sparing the rachni would just lead to another galaxy wide war
Hahahaha
Debating geth and quarian ethics, whether the genophage as justified, whether sparing the rachni would just lead to another galaxy wide war
Hahahaha
Freeza Under The Shower
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the original Fallout 3 ending was logical for a player without allies, but fell apart by the (later added?) addition of allies. At least three of them could have taken care of it without harm to themselves. (Super Mutant, Ghoul, Robot)
So that ending was pretty much FUBAR anyway. The DLC ending actually kind of improved it, since the whole 'sacrifice yourself' was toned down to 'you'll be out for weeks, but you'll live'.
Of course, the dialogue didn't change, but the ludic narrative was definitely improved.
However, the ending was completely in tune with the world, story, and expectations. While not everyone believes it to be well written, it was more than sufficient (imo) for a game story.
The same is not true at all for Mass Effect 3, sadly. The ending singlehandedly rewrites every rule, previously established expectation and utterly and completely negates any 'world' that ME had. HAD being the emphasized word in this case.
It's unacceptable that this nonsense made into the final product. Sure, it's there to make the story sensical for newbies and set up a sequel (yes, really), but this shit just should not have happened. Every single viewer / reader will instantly realize that the ending negates the choices in the game, and the world at large. They may be new to the series, but they're not stupid. EA seems to have assumed that they were.
It does explain why the embargo was set at the actual releasedate though.
Also: Bioware (Austin?) claims that the Shepard story is done, but that only counts for them and is clearly not true. Expect ME4 to be made another studios labeled Bioware by EA, just not the original studio.
But honestly, as Emcee puts it above me, it is best to pretend the series doesn't exist past shooting TIM.
Oh, I wasn't really going for actual renegade/paragon left-sided choices.
Psychoward
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I wasn't roleplaying for the last few minutes, I couldn't give any less of a shit, I destroyed because of that. Just wanted the Reapers gone and for it to be over.
lastplayed
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Mike Gamle says:
Oh Bioware, how thy have broken my heart and trust.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...s-effect-3-ending-will-make-some-people-angry
Oh Bioware, how thy have broken my heart and trust.
I don't know how I'm going to deal yet. I still can't play any of the games because of it. It's probably going to take ending DLC that's hopefully free to fix it. But the kick in the balls I took from this game will never truly go away even with a better ending.
edit: At the above....fuck you bioware. I didn't get any answers about the Reapers, nothing that I didn't already know from ME1 or 2. Then again they also said they wouldn't do a deus ex machina and they did exactly that from like the first hour on.
I think Bioware wants to steer us into a debate on which colours we prefer Space Magic to be: Red, Green or Blue?
LOL, yea, they did the complete opposite
That just one the points the endings completely fails to resolve. In the Arrival DLC for ME2, blowing up a Mass Relay by throwing an asteroid at it did take out the whole system. In fact, that was the whole point of the DLC, and why Shepard is on Earth at the start of ME3 (he killed something like 300k batarians by blowing it up). While in the ending here there is no indication that the system were wiped out, the only indication that they weren't would be the few seconds of "Shepard lives" bonus scene.
Also, I personally don't know if Normandy was in a relay or just using FTL. So... many... questions...
bigace33
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As sorry and disgusting as that ending was, it has potential to be brilliant if they explain it to be the indoctrination process by the Reapers. All of the choices were tough and had drawbacks, with the destruction choice being the worst of the three (from ventboy's point of view.) I'm desperately grasping at something here, I need this ending to make sense before I start to actually hate ME3. 
Sooo, this whole thing was just a marketing research for their next game?
Maybe there should have been a QTE choice as soon as you're near a laser in which you just turn around and turn off the power supply.I'm just playing along with the indoctrination theory.
shingonation
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The beautiful music at the end makes everything worse.
Like everything else so far, not at all.
Or well, my guess is that the scene plays out long after the ending of ME3, where the relays are destroyed and people are now stranded in their respective solar systems. The grandfather implying that "Soon you may also go to the stars" being that they are working on a solution to get back out there again.
As sorry and disgusting as that ending was, it has potential to be brilliant if they explain it to be the indoctrination process by the Reapers. All of the choices were tough and had drawbacks, with the destruction choice being the worst of the three (from ventboy's point of view.) I'm desperately grasping at something here, I need this ending to make sense before I start to actually hate ME3.
the best thing is to make your own interpretation. i think no matter what the ending, you saved the galaxy and everyone went on to rebuild. the whole thing about the MAss Relays being destroyed is probably what puts a roadblock on people's own endings...
Karak
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So 2 of my friends just emailed me. 1 has run through the ME games recently for the first time. The other has been into ME since day 1.
Short Term ME fan after winning ME3, "Hi. I won! I never want to play games again! Nothing makes sense. I honestly feel like drinking."
Long Term Fan after winning ME3, "Not joking, ME 3 doesn't exist. The last 10-15 minutes is pure mindfuck lack of respect for the gamer."
That was it. They didn't even ask me if our plans were still on for a coworkers birthday hahahahaha.
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