Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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Vire said:
I'm fine with criticisms of the games, but when people here start launching personal attacks at the hardworking folks at Bioware, I'm not okay with it. Have some damn respect, just because you are anonymous on the internet doesn't give you the right to act like a child.
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Yep.
 
If they do end up releasing DLC, which I doubt they will, it has to be free. If they had the nerve to charge people even more money to fix what they did wrong, then I don't even know.

I sure as hell wouldn't pay for it. I'd just settle with Youtubing a playthrough.
 
Derrick01 said:
It depends what happens when this is all over. It seems like every day it gets a little worse as more details come out.

If they actually release a much better ending via DLC it'll probably end up being #1 on the list, because it'll be the only fan induced mass-raging that actually accomplished something.
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Not quite the same thing, but when warriors were shit in the early days of WoW a couple thousand people made gnome warriors congregated in one place and crashed the server in protest. Most of them got banned, but a week later talks went up about class balance and Warriors were the very first ones to get their class patch.
 
Oh god this is hilarious. My reaction this entire day has been:

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About 10 hours into my game and team dextro is back!

A bit hard to enjoy the story when I know of the train wreck ahead, but I'm managing. The general quality of the dialogue/writing is impressing me more and more.

Now if Shepard would stop dreaming about that fucking kid. And stop having stupid slow-mo dreams.
 
Alucrid said:
Even dragon ages 2 rage wasn't this bad, and that was about an entire game.
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That's because DA2 was a bad game in its entirety.
ME3 is actually good until the very end :(

At least from Mars to most of London.

Edit:anyway I won't let that ending ruin my enjoyment of the game and the series, but I can understand people getting angry after they revealed the "making of" of that ending.
Worst thing to do.
 
Vire said:
I'm not angry with Bioware, I really enjoyed my ride with ME3 and I don't regret playing it.

Do I wish the ending was different? Absolutely. But the moments I spent with this series during this generation are some of my favorite gaming memories ever. Period.

Why would I shit on them for that?

I'm fine with criticisms of the games, but when people here start launching personal attacks at the hardworking folks at Bioware, I'm not okay with it. Have some damn respect, just because you are anonymous on the internet doesn't give you the right to act like a child.
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I love ME3 and my post was just to comment on how awkward those scenes sounded like with the basic voices, but why choosing my post to go all "fucking retard" like that? There is far worse posts shitting on Bioware in here that you could have chosen.
 
sflufan said:
So where does this event rank in the hierarchy of video game rage?
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Taking into account how ingrained the Internet and social media are in present time giving us this vast outlet to vent our frustrations, I don't think there's been anything bigger. If you exclude that stuff, you might be able to find something back in the 90s with consoles or PC gaming in the late 90s. Not sure what.
 
I'm not really angry with Bioware. Disappointed in how strange the ending was, and at the various shortcuts taken (Tali's picture, Winter Space), but I do understand, the tremendous undertaking it took to do these 3 games. Just from a branching narrative standpoint, with tons of different dialogue and situations to throw in.

I can't fathom how much voicework and writing it took for just ME3, with all the variations of who is and isn't alive, and what you did or didn't do.
 
Vire took it a bit too seriously, methinks

Also this thread is perfect to get some handheld gaming in, I can't play any of my PC backlog when this thread is moving so fast!
 
Someone edited Casey Hudson's wikipedia page:

Hudson started his career as a Technical Artist, developing art solutions for video games at Bioware, on many games, including Baldur's Gate 2, Neverwinter Nights and Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic. He became game director on Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire. His most recent psuedo-finished product, Mass Effect 3, had over 70 perfect 10/10 review scores - while the rest of the reviewers actually completed the game. His crowning achievement at Bioware was the utter destruction of the popular Mass Effect franchise. He is now viewed as a liar and a money-grabber by the rest of the gaming community. Promising not to make the Mass Effect trilogy end like A, B, C instead he took it upon himself to make it end like R, G, B."

After almost 7 years at Bioware, Casey and his team started working on an all-new IP : Mass Effect. On GameInformer[1], he stated that after doing some licensed projects, his employer should make some brand new content for its fans. He then became the executive producer on the franchise, which became very successful. However, he decided to use space magic in the final installment in order to appeal to the wizards and witches.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Hudson#Career
 
I personally don't care how it happens, I just want the ending to be fixed. It's clear now that Mac Walters is beyond incompetant and bioware seriously needs to re-evaluate their stuff and quality assurance if they thought that the ending for ME3 was good enough, but when all is said and done, I just want the story I fell in love with get an ending that doesn't ruin everything so badly. By all means, bring out the fixed DLC, charge for it if you must, or just have the other good writers of bioware write up an article of how they would have ended it and post it on the internet. I'll accept that. Just give me something to work with here.
 
Vire said:
Are you r-word? It's how games are made, it's a robot voice for a reason. All dialogue starts out this way so they can plan out and not invest resources into something they are still testing with.

Talk about a dumb comment.
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First casualty. This is what lots of speculation from everyone does!
 
Maybe the whole Derek Smart episode way back on usenet back in the day was close. But there are a lot more people online now compared to those days.
 
The outrage on the BSN is probably from people who genuinely believe Walters spent 10 minutes scribbling crap down on loose leaf paper and that was what the entire ending was based off, when regardless of the abysmal quality of the ending this is certainly not what happened. A lot of writing takes conceptual form as scribbled notes and that is what we saw.

The outrage over the ending is BioWare's problem and Walters and co will have to rightly deal with it, but given the general level of IQ and, I'm guessing, low age cap on the BSN I assume most of them probably genuinely believe that was the ending ad infinitum.
 
So, the BSN is down, Mac Walters deliberately wanted the ending to cause 'lots of speculation', and now the fans' one glimmer of hope - the indoctrination theory - is dispelled.

Awesome.
 
EatChildren said:
The outrage on the BSN is probably from people who genuinely believe Walters spent 10 minutes scribbling crap down on loose leaf paper and that was what the entire ending was based off, when regardless of the abysmal quality of the ending this is certainly not what happened. A lot of writing takes conceptual form as scribbled notes and that is what we saw.

The outrage over the ending is BioWare's problem and Walters and co will have to rightly deal with it, but given the general level of IQ and, I'm guessing, low age cap on the BSN I assume most of them probably genuinely believe that was the ending ad infinitum.
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I think part of it is that you're dealing with the same audience that, very recently, saw George Lucas hammering out scripts in a weekend and this app bridged the association in their minds.

Seeing those notebook sketches (which, I agree, are certainly not the totality of writing or thinking done for the ending) probably feels to a lot of people like the seeing the behind-the-scenes Revenge of the Sith footage and hearing Lucas express to someone that he simply wrote "[they fight]" in for an ending and hoped the actors and choreographers would fill in the gaps.
 
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