Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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Why would there be ME3 DLC that happen before ME3? How does that make sense? We would play it right when we start a new game, before the Earth invasion?

Well he was quoted as saying DLC would take place during the game, not after. Like re-capturing Omega sometime during the events of the game.

It's in the Final Hours app. He states that he has no interest in exploring the ME universe after the events of ME3.

Well damn, that makes me more annoyed with this ending. The one thing I liked about it was the possibility of a completely new setting for future games to take place in.
 
I really hope somebody records the Bioware/ME3 panel at PAX East this year. I expect people howling for blood.

Better not be an hour of this:

*OMG its Bioware! I've waited hours for this. Now to ask a good question*

"So uh, is it possible for EDI and Joker to uh....get it on? Also, any plans for a Liara bodypillow? Thanks guys. Love Mass Effect!"
 
Which Shepard? Because custom Sheps can have brown eyes.

Default Shepard. I've always used that one. I only noticed this because I remember how his eye color was blue during the sex scene with Ashley, but now I'm replaying the ending and they're brown all of a sudden.

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They're blue, right?

Edit, maybe it's the lighting.

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I really hope somebody records the Bioware/ME3 panel at PAX East this year. I expect people howling for blood.

Better not be an hour of this:

*OMG its Bioware! I've waited hours for this. Now to ask a good question*

"So uh, is it possible for EDI and Joker to uh....get it on? Also, any plans for a Liara bodypillow? Thanks guys. Love Mass Effect!"

If a large % of attendies are from BSN... It may be
 
Exactly. Just hitting a Relay with a big rock caused it to explode so hard it obliterated an entire star system. Now what about using a Relay to channel an energy pulse so unimaginably powerful that it took who-knows-how-many galactic cycles simply to put the thing together, that was strong enough to cascade across the entire Milky Way galaxy. Now how hard is it going to explode?

It's just nonsense science fiction phlebotinum. Maybe all the Relays just crumbled harmlessly and everyone in the galaxy is fine and dandy, or maybe the Milky Way was wiped out of the universe. The ending doesn't offer any hints as to which happened.
When the crucible, the original of the signal, activates and the light floods earth, in the destroy ending, the light kills the reapers but the marines on the ground are a-ok.
 
I woke up this morning not so pissed about the ending: I just wanted more emotional weight with your squadmates and Shepard.

Now I'm pissed off because I don't have a smart phone and I want that stupid mail system thingie that gives additional lore and emails.

BTW Bioware, fuck you for not putting all the emails in the game and instead saying some/half/most? of them for a stupid fucking app.

Yes, I'm still angry.
 
I really hope somebody records the Bioware/ME3 panel at PAX East this year. I expect people howling for blood.

Better not be an hour of this:

*OMG its Bioware! I've waited hours for this. Now to ask a good question*

"So uh, is it possible for EDI and Joker to uh....get it on? Also, any plans for a Liara bodypillow? Thanks guys. Love Mass Effect!"

You know this is going to happen. As the days go by, I lose hope for Bioware ever addressing this debacle satisfactorily
 
Default Shepard. I've always used that one. I only noticed this because I remember how his eye color was blue during the sex scene with Ashley, but now I'm replaying the ending and they're brown all of a sudden.

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They're blue, right?[/QUOTE]

I think so...

How.... convenient for bioware
 
It could explain it? So trying to convince someone otherwise would be like trying to argue with a brick wall? The 'using' of the relays is still causing them to explode into a million tiny pieces, it'd make only slightly more sense if they at least stayed intact before the giant shockwave occurs.
Actually, I meant the fact I made arguments in response to his posts, only for him to use "the codex says so" then 'but Arrival!' afterwards, rather than trying to argue why it would still have wiped out star systems anyway. That, or at least "once you bring in space magic none of it matters!", but your post is more of what I wanted to see.

And... I seem to recall the Relay falling apart after sending the signal to other Relays, so I think they still stayed intact until they were finished. That, or the act of sending that wave was what destroyed the Relays specifically, thus being more like a more controlled explosion that did something other than destroy everything.
 
edit: The Cycle is the cycle of reaping every 50,000 years, not the cycle of humans/asari/etc. Big Cycle versus little cycle.

No. It's "THIS" cycle. Javik mentions "THIS" cycle.

It wasn't "the cycle will end" meaning every 50k years of them coming back will end, it was "this cycle of development in the galaxy will end"
 
I woke up this morning not so pissed about the ending: I just wanted more emotional weight with your squadmates and Shepard.

Now I'm pissed off because I don't have a smart phone and I want that stupid mail system thingie that gives additional lore and emails.

BTW Bioware, fuck you for not putting all the emails in the game and instead saying some/half/most? of them for a stupid fucking app.

Yes, I'm still angry.

I have it, it's not worth getting angry about.
 
I've ALREADY argued that the manner of destruction is different and thus could explain why these wouldn't be obliterating star systems. One's smashing a giant rock into the Relay, the other is USING the Relay to send out an energy wave that spreads across multiple star systems. Seriously, this is like arguing with a brick wall.

Can you please explain why you are so sure of this one? Your post is also entirely speculative.
 
I really hope somebody records the Bioware/ME3 panel at PAX East this year. I expect people howling for blood.

Better not be an hour of this:

*OMG its Bioware! I've waited hours for this. Now to ask a good question*

"So uh, is it possible for EDI and Joker to uh....get it on? Also, any plans for a Liara bodypillow? Thanks guys. Love Mass Effect!"

Considering BSN is as much(or more) on fire than here, i dunno.
 
Can you please explain why you are so sure of this one? Your post is also entirely speculative.

LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE?

And at this point, I'm guessing that anyone who matters in the development of ME3 is cancelling their plans to attend the PAX East panel. It'll probably be worthless. I joke that they're going to just send their community managers, but unless there's a major DLC announcement, that's exactly what it's going to be.
 
As much as I hate and despise the ending (I refuse to call them endings) I honestly cannot see them changing. We are talking about a company here that thinks this ending is a "masterpiece". After all can you really see Mac Walters allowing them to alter his wonderful piece of artistic culture ?

There is a chance EA might bring pressure down on Bioware (amazed EA even let them get away with this bull in the first place) but again that will be less than ideal. It's a no win situation really, not changing the ending means we are stuck with this gibberish which really does ruin the entire franchise and doesn't make a single bit of sense. However doing new endings will only be done on a shoe string budget and will be of such low quality as to be next to pointless anyway.

Still lesson for the future, don't get sucked in with Biowares stuff because inevitably you will be disappointed.
 
I agree. It makes me even more mad that there is great stuff like this that I will remember forever, only to have it followed by the garbage ending we got.
Scenes like this and this and this made the game awesome until the ending. Especially Legion's death. The most interesting character of ME3 dies. At the end he uses I instead of we. Which had a pretty emotional meaning for me.

But at the end, If I start the game again, the end comes into my mind and I stop. And I can't, I really can't. It was such a great game which gets ruined by a shitty ending...
 
Can you please explain why you are so sure of this one? Your post is also entirely speculative.

The proof is really in the synthesis ending - the plants on that planet that Joker landed on were affected by the green "explosion" to be turned into half-organic and half-synthetic hybrids.

If they weren't affected by the explosion, they wouldn't have turned half-synthetic.

If the explosions were destructive like the one in Arrival, the plants (and the planet they rested on) would've been obliterated.
 
The Penny-Arcade comic is the first time I've ever actually thought of them as douchebags. I suppose every gamer at some point in their life eventually calls PA douchebags and it's a matter of time.

I understand they liked the ending, much like everyone else in the industry except many actual gamers, but this comic is basically mocking the fans who felt disappointed. Fuck them for that. I'm not even that mad about the ending anymore, but don't treat people (many who are likely your fans) like that.

I have it, it's not worth getting angry about.

There's no real additions to lore in the emails from your squadmates?


The proof is really in the synthesis ending - the plants on that planet that Joker landed on were affected by the green "explosion" to be turned into half-organic and half-synthetic hybrids.

If they weren't affected by the explosion, they wouldn't have turned half-synthetic.

If the explosions were destructive like the one in Arrival, the plants (and the planet they rested on) would've been obliterated.

Wait, do you actually see the plants with synthetic material? That's new to me. I never noticed that. Though I also had to be told that you can kind of see organic skin on EDI...
 
Isn't that sol mass relay located near mars? Wouldn't tht mean there would be no Shepard breath scene if they did explode?

It's by Pluto. In the ME universe, it turns out that Charon was actually the Relay, which had become covered in rock and ice in the time since the Protheans were around.
 
Can you please explain why you are so sure of this one? Your post is also entirely speculative.
I'm not SURE, I'd just like more solid counter arguments. Though, the Citadel IS a Mass Relay, and I think it was out and out destroyed without vaporizing the Earth, only the surface of in a worst case scenario.
 
LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE?

And at this point, I'm guessing that anyone who matters is cancelling their plans to attend the PAX East panel. It'll probably be worthless. I joke that they're going to just send their community managers, but unless there's a major DLC announcement, that's exactly what it's going to be.

CONFIRMED
ENDING SUCCESSFUL

Even if DLC is announced... I doubt it will make people happy... Even if it's free after this shitstorm
 
I really hope somebody records the Bioware/ME3 panel at PAX East this year. I expect people howling for blood.

Better not be an hour of this:

*OMG its Bioware! I've waited hours for this. Now to ask a good question*

"So uh, is it possible for EDI and Joker to uh....get it on? Also, any plans for a Liara bodypillow? Thanks guys. Love Mass Effect!"
I can see it now. Hudson, walters and pollner in r/g/b shirts wearing umad face masks. It would be glorious.
 
The Penny-Arcade comic is the first time I've ever actually thought of them as douchebags. I suppose every gamer at some point in their life eventually calls PA douchebags and it's a matter of time.

I understand they liked the ending, much like everyone else in the industry except many actual gamers, but this comic is basically mocking the fans who felt disappointed. Fuck them for that. I'm not even that mad about the ending anymore, but don't treat people (many who are likely your fans) like that.



There's no real additions to lore in the emails from your squadmates?

No it's just stuff like Tali saying "I'm drunk come haev a drank wif meh" doesn't really add anything to the story. And the galaxy of masturbation simulator is pretty pointless too. Having the codex around is nice though.
 
I'm not SURE, I'd just like more solid counter arguments. Though, the Citadel IS a Mass Relay, and I think it was out and out destroyed without vaporizing the Earth, only the surface of in a worst case scenario.

Literally every bit of Mass Effect lore says that destroying a Mass Relay results in massive destruction. There's an entire DLC that shows the ramification of destroying one. The Codex talks about how large an explosion results from destroying one.

The real question, then, is what is your proof that the destruction of them WASN'T devastating?
 
http://youtu.be/rPelM2hwhJA?hd=1&t=1m38s

Let me know how big you think those explosions and shockwaves are.

Except it showed the shockwaves going over earth and not destroying anything... Those are to cover the entire galaxy with whatever decision you made, either disabling the reapers or combining them with shepard.

It's just to show the whole galaxy covered, not that everyone is destroyed lol.

Why would there be ME3 DLC that happen before ME3? How does that make sense? We would play it right when we start a new game, before the Earth invasion?

He said it wouldn't be after ME3, not that it would be before. They made it clear there wouldn't be DLC taking place after ME3 ala Shadow Broker and Arrival. So you think for two seconds and realize that only means they'd add on to the middle part.



Man, you guys need to have your morning coffee or something, you're losing it badly today.
 
I was really hoping Penny Arcade wouldn't fall into the trap of believing that "people don't like the ending because Shepard diesz!!!"
 
Except it showed the shockwaves going over earth and not destroying anything... Those are to cover the entire galaxy with whatever decision you made, either disabling the reapers or combining them with shepard.

It's just to show the whole galaxy covered, not that everyone is destroyed lol.
So let me rephrase: Let me know how big you think those explosions are.

Fact is, they established that the destruction of a Mass Relay is a cataclysmic event for a solar system, they showed a massive explosion in the final ctuscene, but it's likely that Sol is totally fine, Joker made it out of a jump without being damage by the explosion from their receiving relay, and it's just Bioware ignoring their own established ideas because they don't have a franchise curator.

Like Executor Pallin dying during the Citadel battle in ME1 (this was a cut scene, but Chellick was his replacement during ME2), then dying by the hands of Bailey (after ME2 in Mass Effect: Inquisition, when he is somehow Executor again), then dying by the hands of Cerberus in ME3.
 
I was really hoping Penny Arcade wouldn't fall into the trap of believing that "people don't like the ending because Shepard diesz!!!"
I'm waiting to see the news story. It IS possible though that they're just paying attention to the part that simply wants a happy ending, rather than people who just want logical or satisfying endings.
 
Because they were destroyed executing an action, rather than destroyed because of a deliberate attempt to destroy them through an outside force.

So? How does that prove they weren't super destructive? What part of the ME lore states that this would nullify the explosion?
 
You know this is going to happen. As the days go by, I lose hope for Bioware ever addressing this debacle satisfactorily

They're not going to simultaniously spoil their game AND admit they didn't do a good enough job on it within the first month of its release.


I'm all for finding out what's going to happen one way or the other, but calling for blood this early is ridiculous.
 
I read Gabe's blog post about it and he doesn't really understand why people hate the ending.

Too many people falling into the trap of thinking that people are mad because Shepard died or that the ending wasn't happy, and then refusing to look further into the issue.
 
I was really hoping Penny Arcade wouldn't fall into the trap of believing that "people don't like the ending because Shepard diesz!!!"

People really need to read their post. For Gabe you could probably argue that he might feel that way, but Tycho is far more ambiguous about his feeling. They had two choices make fun of Bioware or make fun of the audience they chose the latter. Most of their jokes are made at the expense of somebody for fun don't take it as some kind of attack.
 
People really need to read their post. For Gabe you could probably argue that he might feel that way, but Tycho is far more ambiguous about his feeling. They had two choices make fun of Bioware or make fun of the audience they chose the latter. Most of their jokes are made at the expense of somebody for fun don't take it as some kind of attack.

I think they are good friends with people at Bioware, so openly mocking them was probably always off the table
 
Omg I thought the final parts of the game were amazing until I actualy reached the ending choices. WTF it was freaking awful. I cannot believe how lazy Bioware were and that each ending is pretty much the same too. I am kinda pissed right now. Mass Effect deserves better. I can't believe this game had such an awful start and finish with a fantastic middle part.
 
Since I missed this:


This seems the better point in the video to use, and going by that... only about the size of the Relay? I don't doubt they'd embellish some for the galaxy view, just to show the relays were actually destroyed. The shockwave is carrying out whatever function you choose, so it shouldn't be inherently destructive.

My only point is that you're making a lot of assumptions when the lore of the universe directly contradicts you.
 
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