Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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heliosRAzi
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Them too
Empty Space
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Yes it is for all the questionable acts you have committed.
Edit: I've been playing online some I actually like it a lot, but yah the ending took the wind out of me for a few days. Immovable_Force on Origin add me if you'd like.
Edit: I've been made into a liar again. I swear I'm taking my info from this thread and not making shit up.
I feel too "unresolved" to pick up and play it. I need some closure before I would feel motivated to play it.
But I've been 95% pure Paragon throughout all 3 games? What gives?
Metroid-Squadron
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I wasn't aware it's possible to troll a thread about trolling a game, but OK. I liked their brevity and the idea that I get to decide how it all ends. Having everything spoon-fed Kojima-style would have been awful.
Besides, unless you pick the ending in which all life is wiped out, is not like the decisions I made in the game and the prequels suddenly disappear. They still very much count in the end.
That scene is poorly done, no doubt. And it's misleading to suggest that "Rally the fleet"/"Warn the fleet" will lead to anything other than the Quarian fleet being energized and steadfast in its continuation of the battle.
So it was badly phrased, but mea culpa.
The latter. Even if you're paragon, there's a lot of blood on your hand (including at least 400,000 Batarians).
Rebel Leader
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CharmingCharlie
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Thought I would post this for those wondering what Tali's face looks like "in game". As you know she removes her mask in the game. Well thanks to PC modding we can now see what was revealed. Set your palms on face :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG0dR5KwNKU&t=17s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG0dR5KwNKU&t=17s
I think he's wrong in that you needed renegade points but right in that it's for your atonement of all the people that you kill cause the drell are all spiritual and shit
That's true.
Hahaha. Do explain.
Tali was the one who created the photoshop: HER MASK HAS ALWAYS BEEN HER FACE.
My girlfriend and I haven't picked this game up yet, but it's funny. A lot of men at her work were saying she should just give in and play it with them (they do co-op stuff often, and Mass Effect 3 was a huge thing, they loved it), but the pull stopped at the same time they finished the single player campaign. They're all back to playing Minecraft together now.
yea, they did the same shit in ME2. perfect time for a reveal and they didn't wanna do it.
Rebel Leader
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Please do
Yeah, I've been reading it. It's good.
I certainly thought the ending was bad, and could be improved greatly, but it didn't sour the game for me as it seemingly has for many others. Especially considering the endings of ME1 and 2 were both bad, 2's especially was fucking terrible.
I think like anything they're always rubbing up against budget issues. It's possible to masterfully craft lots of totally different endings, but it's quite possibly not viable for the projected sales of ME3.
I think ME3 was excellent. For the most part the variety available in the endings is only relevant to the people who choose to find out what the alternatives are. If anything, I'll think less of BioWare if they pussy out and provide people with the sun and rainbows they lust for. ME2 stunk of design by committee with them changing every little thing people bitched about such as ammo clips. I hope they've grown a spine in the interim.
When people on GAF talk about the 'great' endings of games, things like RDR, Ico, Braid tend to come up, games that have very specific stories they tell, with no freedom given to the player in his affect on the ending. I'm not sure it's fair to have higher expectations of BioWare just because the game gives you more freedom in how you get from the start to the end.
I'm not saying people shouldn't be pissed, the ending was bad, and that's certainly a fair thing to be disappointed in, but the people calling for BioWare to go back and 'fix it', for free no less, are kidding themselves.
All life is wiped out? Are you sure you played mass effect 3?
That's because they never actually bothered with modelling the face. The photshop was a rush job, not something they carefully thought about.
Without watching, I can guarantee there's another helmet under her helmet.
Blue Ninja
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No they don't. When you're talking to vent god, he acknowledges nothing. An effective transcription of his conversation could be:
"Hey dude, I know you spent three games building relationships and alliances to get here, but lol, fuck that. You made peace with the geth and EDI? Lol, fuck that, synthetics are bad. Here's three choices, which color do you like best? Pick one, and then I'll blow everything up. Because fuck everything. Oh hey, Joker's in a mass relay. Why? Fuck that. Here's the credits."
Probably misinterpreted the worst Destroy ending. I almost wish it were an option though, it'd be a cleaner end than what we got.
I'd honestly be fine with the ending, somewhat at least, if the entire game wasn't about improving the situations for ostracized races. As is it feels like it's going against what the whole game had been about, at least with FTL in the state it is.
ShockingAlberto
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See how far this attitude gets you, please.
The mass relays are destroyed in every ending, so you can't choose an ending that does not wipe out all life.
Arrival happens regardless of whether you played it or not. It's why you're on lockdown at the beginning of the game.
Okay, how about this.
In every ending, you destroy the mass relays. For the sake of argument, let us assume this mass relay explosion does not destroy the entire system it is in like in Arrival and the ME3 Codex.
The fleets of each major species is stranded on Earth. Possible survivors are cut off from each other. Faster-than-Light travel is possible, but it would take a couple of decades for species to reach their home systems. Keep in mind, this is not accounting for issues like food (which many species would not quite be able to eat Earth food, as established already) and fuel (which the game blatantly states that Reapers go after fuel depots first). Other species are stranded on ruined worlds also with limited resources and probably no fuel to actually travel.
It doesn't matter whether or not you choose the green, blue, or red colored endings with very, very slight differences; no matter what you chose to do in the entire series, you condemn the entire galaxy to a galactic dark age with no say in the matter.
Oh yeah, those squadmates that probably died when trying to rush by Harbinger? They teleported to the Normandy who crash landed on Lost planet.
Are you starting to see why people don't like the endings that much?
Chairman Yang
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If you don't get the paragon/renegade options (ie not enough "compromise points") the only way to save tali was by stopping the reaper upload to the geth.
I chose to upload and "warn" the quarians, but I remember getting a second chance to stop the reaper upload and kill legion to let the quarians (thus tali) live.
See how far this attitude gets you, please.
The mass relays are destroyed in every ending, so you can't choose an ending that does not wipe out all life.
To be fair, they can still pull some kind of "he's the creator so he found a way to make them disappear without killing everyone".
Space magic you know?
The game doesn't make it clear that what happens to them with the Citadel is the same thing as the Arrival. I would assume it's not.
The humanity...
I'm eagerly awaiting the Tali's Face DLC which is just a fully interactive 3D model of Tali without her mask on. And other stuff.
I would think it's not either since the space magic is coming from the thing that built the relays, but since everything is left up in the air due to Bioware's poor writing we kind of have no choice but to go with what has actually been established in the past.
Empty Space
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I had the points, but the words the wheel use are kind of misleading and the first time I did it I actually picked white answers, because I felt they were safest. Once everything played out I tried again where I got things to paly out the way I was expecting Quarian/Geth unity.
Blue Ninja
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I assume it's not, either.
The Citadel explodes, though. So the people living on there, who probably number in the millions, are pretty much fucked.
And if you go Paragon, you get to take 'em with you into Dark Space. Awesome.
I don't think people (at least in this thread) are lusting for a Sunshine and Rainbow ending, but an ending that is consistent with the themes both in a game mechanic sense (feedback from choices) and in a narrative sense (the unity of races against the Reapers, synthetics allying with organics, etc.).
Regarding the issue of returning to "fix" the ending, look at this:
And tell me that you would rather have Ridley Scott kept the original theatrical release only and not return to fix the film.
Or that Sergio Leone wouldn't be able to release his original intended Once Upon a Time in America. Returning to entertainment products and fixing them is very, very common and not something completely sacrilegious.
I keep hearing that Bioware or someone somehow has officially disproven the indoctrination theory.
Where? When?
Bullshit. This is still the absolute best and most believable explanation still going, and I would bet $1000 right now that is what is actually going to be proven as to what happened. You disappoint me, Shepard.
*blows cigarette smoke and walks away from the holo terminal*
I'd been arguing it's probably a matter of how the energy is released. That "space magic" wave that covers multiple star systems probably DOES use up about as much energy as an uncontrolled explosion that wipes out a single star system, and most likely no one alive seriously thought of using the relays in any other way than transportation, or could have done similar at all without the Crucible. Or they really will just say they forgot about it, whatever.
They were dead when the reapers took over anyways. Probably.
Or taking names and shit cause you know...they sound cool
Lets do this!
That's what Drew or Mac Walters would do (ie. shit writers) though.
The darkspawn and corruption are secretly caused by ancient Reaper tech that was buried deep underground in whatever planet DA takes place on.
The ipad app making of me3 thing.
EmCeeGramr
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