Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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Someone else's words, my thoughts. No reason there couldn't have had a happy ending.

One of my favorite things about Mass effect is the larger than life aspect of shepard. Like in 2 when Garrus makes the comment "The collectors killed you, and all it did was piss you off." Or Wrex commenting to Grunt that of course Okeer was dead, Grunt was with Shepard.

My favorite parts were Mordin's and Legion's deaths, but after that when Shepard takes out the Reaper on Rannoch and tells it "Tell your friends I'm coming for them..."*Pulls out the laser sighter again and aims it at its eye, the Quarian fleet blasts it again* "Nevermind, I'll tell them myself."

So yeah, I'd like the option of seeing Shepard being picked up from the Citadel after activating the crucible.

I would have lived if she HAD to die at the end, as long as it was done well. But this was just so unsatisfying.
 
But if it's JRPG ending, Shepard will have unmasked that God-like brat for the real monster he truly is (maybe a giant Keeper). He'd then fight said monster with his friends in 3 rounds battle. Nay, make it 6 rounds like Final Fantasy XIII-2.

So you're saying... it's worse than a JRPG ending?

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Hang on a second... mind rape... a child in the body of a 117-year-old... JRPG endings... cyber ninjas with pony tails... is this anime~?

Uguuuuu~~?

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So you're saying... it's worse than a JRPG ending?

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Yes. At least the ending itself. The game was fine.
 
The indoctrination theory is stupid and pointless and ridiculous as the "soul in the briefcase " in Pulp Fiction fanfic nonsense.

The most fascinating thing about the indoctrination theory is how desperate so many fans were (and, um, are) to disregard the ending we got. You see it every now and then (hello Lost), but it's hilarious that the entire theory is founded on 'evidence' rooted in inconsistencies and confusion.

"This doesn't make sense so it has to be indoctrination!" is the basis for the entire theory. That really says a lot about the ending.
 
Speaking of cyber ninjas, why would anyone concentrate on hating the ending instead of him? A costume out of Rob Liefeld, terrible background in the books, ponytail, no meaningful lines at all, cliche ninja style... Weakest part of the game for me.
 
The most fascinating thing about the indoctrination theory is how desperate so many fans were (and, um, are) to disregard the ending we got. You see it every now and then (hello Lost), but it's hilarious that the entire theory is founded on 'evidence' rooted in inconsistencies and confusion.

"This doesn't make sense so it has to be indoctrination!" is the basis for the entire theory. That really says a lot about the ending.

To be fair, ME writers used indoctrination as a cop-out a little too much over the course of the trilogy.
 
Speaking of cyber ninjas, why would anyone concentrate on hating the ending instead of him? A costume out of Rob Liefeld, terrible background in the books, ponytail, no meaningful lines at all, cliche ninja style... Weakest part of the game for me.

Way ahead of ya buddy
Putting a bullet in that smug, self-righteous face was the true ending for me.

Well, that and finally ridding the universe of Mr. Dork Age personified, with his stupid 90s haircut, Nightwing-in-space getup and his twirly anime sword fighting style. I mean, he had to twirl that stupid thing to do anything with it. What a freakin' dork.
 
Speaking of cyber ninjas, why would anyone concentrate on hating the ending instead of him? A costume out of Rob Liefeld, terrible background in the books, ponytail, no meaningful lines at all, cliche ninja style... Weakest part of the game for me.

Because in the shit-o-meter, the ending rates slightly higher than that crappy wannabe ninja. But both are abominations tbh.

And yeah, I took pleasure in gutting his inside with omni blade.
 
Just finished it...

A fucking JRPG ending????? Why Bioware??? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

A lot of companies seem to think that arty nonsense ending are "good writing". *sigh*

After ME1 I expected a lot more. ME2 was kinda ok as filler... but 3 was all military nonsense. And how the hell did the reapers even get here? They were 300000 lightyears away. Yeah let's introduce a new power the last 30 seconds (in kid form... puke) they we never even heard of and never even cared about.

The correct plot of ME3 would have been... go to the reapers by building a (prothean) device (crucible) and explore the darkspace location where they live and find a way to take em out by finding out about their past. No frontal assault nonsense. This is not COD.

What? Lots of JRPGs have way better endings than ME3 did.
 
The indoctrination theory is stupid and pointless and ridiculous as the "soul in the briefcase " in Pulp Fiction fanfic nonsense.

Better founded than what we got at least. It explains everything is a semi plausible way and makes sense of some startling inconsistencies in the ending (where shepard was shot for one).
 
Speaking of cyber ninjas, why would anyone concentrate on hating the ending instead of him? A costume out of Rob Liefeld, terrible background in the books, ponytail, no meaningful lines at all, cliche ninja style... Weakest part of the game for me.

Don't forget that he brought his legion of SEXY LADY™ snipers and psychic ninjas! I was pretty convinced that the ME-franchise jumped the shark during the Cerberus attack on the Citadel.
 
The most fascinating thing about the indoctrination theory is how desperate so many fans were (and, um, are) to disregard the ending we got. You see it every now and then (hello Lost), but it's hilarious that the entire theory is founded on 'evidence' rooted in inconsistencies and confusion.

"This doesn't make sense so it has to be indoctrination!" is the basis for the entire theory. That really says a lot about the ending.

I wish the indoctrination theory was true. I like it, and aside from the fact it'd be a way to sell more dlc, it's brilliantly clever. And would be the best troll ever. But it gives Bioware a whole lot of credit, which is why I can't commit. I just like the idea.

Plus I really want to know what the hell is up with the stupid rubble thing.


Don't forget that he brought his legion of SEXY LADY™ snipers and psychic ninjas! I was pretty convinced that the ME-franchise jumped the shark during the Cerberus attack on the Citadel.

The best part of the psychic ninjas is how easy they were to snipe, and they'd always be in the stupidest poses when their heads exploded.
 
Weird enough, I still can't hate the ending and it's been an hour now since I finished. It was really abrupt but the ideas didn't come out of nowhere. I think it's more of a context/expectance problem. The whole game was in-your-face soldier-bro military story and the ending is something I'd expect to see in a book or short story with no action at all plus it jumps from what's happening right now to large timescales of the cycles. After everything that happened in the game, I was expecting a total clean slate ending like that though. (plus some stuff didn't really make sense with that sparse detail)
 
Weird enough, I still can't hate the ending and it's been an hour now since I finished. It was really abrupt but the ideas didn't come out of nowhere. I think it's more of a context/expectance problem. The whole game was in-your-face soldier-bro military story and the ending is something I'd expect to see in a book or short story with no action at all plus it jumps from what's happening right now to large timescales of the cycles. After everything that happened in the game, I was expecting a total clean slate ending like that though.

If this was a book it'd still be a terrible ending.
 
I'm almost at the end.
The game's been phenomenal so far, there's no WAY they can screw it up now, especially not to the extent that everyone claims they have.
 
Are they really fucking going to redo the ending with a patch?

I haven't even put the disc into my Xbox yet because of the import "bug."

At least tell me the game itself is adequate aside from the import bullshit and this retarded ending...
 
I'm almost at the end.
The game's been phenomenal so far, there's no WAY they can screw it up now, especially not to the extent that everyone claims they have.

i thought that way at first but the more and more i think about everything it really is a very dissapointing ending.....such an amazing game though otherwise.
 
Are they really fucking going to redo the ending with a patch?

I haven't even put the disc into my Xbox yet because of the import "bug."

At least tell me the game itself is adequate aside from the import bullshit and this retarded ending...

The game is despite some flaws surprisingly good - and fun. Especially because of the incredible characters, they are great.

I was surprised how much fun I had with it actually - which makes the bad ending hurt even more.
 
Oh dear.
Now I'm scared :P
I'll know for sure myself tonight
I think it depends on how many hours you put into the franchise/how much you have invested in the series which will determine how much you hate the ending. Regardless, I'd say 90% chance you won't like it on some level.
 
Liara melds with Shepard at least 3 times without being a love interest if you play as a Paragon. Given how chummy the two are, I could see her taking what is necessary to have a child without Shepard's consent.

I did find it kinda odd how she rested her head on Shep's shoulder during their last scene all romantic-like, even though Garrus was the LI.

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Are they really fucking going to redo the ending with a patch?

I haven't even put the disc into my Xbox yet because of the import "bug."

At least tell me the game itself is adequate aside from the import bullshit and this retarded ending...

The game is brilliant up to the very very end. Really, the total suck just comes completely out of nowhere.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wOXkKPNRfM

So, I just watched the 3 points video that supposedly is everything the fans are complaining about the ending. Here are my thoughts (sorry for the formatation, I was writing while listening to the video):

Point 1:

- The end of a trilogy has to answer all the questions: that's is something I don't agree with. A lot of things can be left out to imagination, as long as the main plot is explained. That's a "feature" used in lots of trilogies, series...
- He totally explains what the Catalyst is just to yell "who the fuck is the catalyst?" after that.
- So basically his complains are: I just wanted Bioware to put clearly who the catalyst is
- Lot's of complains about the "kill the organics to save them" are typically from someone who doesn't care to give a second though on the matter
- Why does the Catalyst doesn't kill the synthetics: as the Catalyst SAID in the end, advanced organics NEED the the synthetics to leave, that's why the destruction ending is so dumb, and why he waits till the civilization gets more advanced, and thus more dependent of robots, to harvest them.
- Killing the synthetics without killing organics is, again,an opinion from someone who didn't care to think about it: you still keep the knowledge around how to build/who are the synthetics, it was just going to be an endless cycle.
- How can Shepard control the Reapers if he's dead: C'mon, in a series with so much sci-fi going on you can't even stop and create an easy exit like: he turns himself into the energy that controls them: Voi là, problem solves.
- His opinion about the synthesis ending is just he taking his opinion and showing it as a fact. I have a different one, that means I'm righ?

Point 2:
-They're trapped in a planet, that's by no means a happy ending, and Bioware in no moment said that they were going to live happily in that planet. If anything, I think the Normandy crew's ending is a sad one. I the wanted a happy ending, don't count it as a Bioware's fault.
- Again, lots of opinions made into facts.

Point 3:
- Again, you didn't bring them all to earth, just their military (that nullifies almost his whole point, that's ridiculous he didn't spent one moment thinking about that), and they knew that could be a one-way trip. Instead of dying, you gave them a chance to fight, survive, and maybe one day go back to their home planets or colonize new ones.

Again, he's no different than most of you, blindingly saying the ending is bad just for the sake of it.
 
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