thetechkid
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When it was used to MGS4 I disagreed, but now its so true it hurts.
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Mass Effect 3 Spoiler Thread |OT2| Taste the Rainbow
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When it was used to MGS4 I disagreed, but now its so true it hurts.
I was bitching because I just entered the angry stage. I'll still buy any ME3 DLC. For future ME or Bioware games though...I will wait for fan reaction and Feedback™.
An Omega DLC could be fun, I'd play it. It just feels odd though with that ending. I just have a bad taste in my mouth at the moment.
Basically this. This is like the only series that has connected with me emotionally. I'd be OK with a sad/hopeless/depressing ending, but this is depressing on so many wrong levels. So yeah, wind, sails, gone.
That's fair enough I suppose. I just didn't know how many people were playing this because of the RPG portion ONLY, and/or ONLY because of the notion that their choices would be validated later, and how many genuinely had fun with the gameplay and stuff as it was happening.
Personally, since I've got into Bioware games I really haven't given a damn about the outside framework story nearly at all. Their framework has been derivative and boring as shit (I've only played DA1 and 2, ME1,2, and 3). It's the smaller character stories and tinier missions that they seem to excel at. That's why I liked ME2 so much. They seemed to excel at the shorter character driven narratives. And then I liked the parts in ME3 that connected there. So I'm actually kind of interested to see more of Aria's character if they would put out some sort of DLC.
Why would anyone do anything when it ultimately is meaningless?
That post game message of "enjoy our dlc!" was so insulting. Why would anyone want to buy DLC for a dead franchise?
People think this DLC is going to happen because some pre-release scripts but then these same people shoot down the IT theory. They wanted to do indoctrination as well but gave up because it was too hard to implement it the way they wanted too.
HadesGigas
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Yeah any DLC where you're helping some old friend do something to help prepare for the war... Bioware already ruined it by showing you not only will such a thing not make a lick of difference to the ending, but whoever you help is going to most likely die a horrible death via explosion/starvation/reaper blending/lawless riots.
The content itself would likely be good, as most of the ME3 missions were pretty good. It's just we can't unknow that it's all pointless.
The content itself would likely be good, as most of the ME3 missions were pretty good. It's just we can't unknow that it's all pointless.
You mean the only thing that comes close to justifying the Reapers/Catalysts claim that synthetics will kill all organics was pointless?
It's pretty much the only thing that anyone can use to support this retarded ending and reasoning as to why the Reapers reap. How is it pointless?
Not to mention it's not even the same situation. All the DLC was to build up to ME3. What's ME3 DLC supposed to build up to. Millions of people dying and galactic civilization being set back thousands of years? Yeah, no thanks. Keep your DLC. I don't even want it for free.
So would it be fair to say that your enjoyment only comes from the validation of your choices and nothing else in the game, really?
And would you never buy any small form story based DLC for a game that is literally a one-off, even though that franchise is dead?
And really, you should let some time for everyone to cool off.
I currently have no interest in anything ME related. That might change in a month or two. Right now, if I think about Mass Effect, the only thing that comes up is that troll space kid.
Not exactly something that might encourage me to play the game. :|
I currently have no interest in anything ME related. That might change in a month or two. Right now, if I think about Mass Effect, the only thing that comes up is that troll space kid.
Not exactly something that might encourage me to play the game. :|
Unless it's post ending DLC I won't buy any. No point in buying a DLC taking place before the mission on Earth for me. I know it will have no impact on the ending anyway and I'm not a big fan of the level designs/wave of enemies in the game. Furthermore it's probably going to be a DLC where only Shepard and a new character have dialogue while the rest of the crew is silent or have a canned reply that is recycled from the core game. The best part of the ME series has been the interactions with squadmates and their comments on mission. Moreover, I'm already level 60 so no exp gain from it either.
What other reason is there to play ME? It's a game that the developers kept talking about choices and how much they matter. If you're not playing for that, what are you playing for?
The gameplay? Ha. This is a average shooter and a terrible RPG. What made Mass Effect great was the universe which is now dead.
There's better shooters out there and way better RPGs.
I went from grief -> denial (this is where I stopped chatting and looked up other endings in hopes that I did something wrong) -> grief -> rage -> grief -> acceptance. That acceptance has now turned to apathy.
Really, I don't give a fuck about any DLC anymore. I'll come back for a new ending but if it's just a few more lines to 'clarify' things, then fuck it.
Really, I don't give a fuck about any DLC anymore. I'll come back for a new ending but if it's just a few more lines to 'clarify' things, then fuck it.
Felix Lighter
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It's the glowy, reaper controlling, illogical, magical space god that kills my desire to go back. Knowing that he's out there killing all intelligent life in the galaxy to prevent synthetics from killing all the life in the galaxy, with his herd of synthetics. Knowing that every time I go to the Citadel, he's there.
That actually brings up a question. Why the fuck do the keepers need to activate the Citadel when the real mastermind behind the reaper cycle fucking lives in the citadel? Man, fuck that shitty shitty ending.
That actually brings up a question. Why the fuck do the keepers need to activate the Citadel when the real mastermind behind the reaper cycle fucking lives in the citadel? Man, fuck that shitty shitty ending.
Apathy is actually a form of denial, as you are trying to fool yourself into thinking you no longer care. You haven't reached True Acceptance yet. It shall come, my son.
Psychoward
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Yeah, I've been pretty apathetic about he franchise and bioware as a whole these past few weeks, the only reason I'm not completely done is because I'm still holding out hope for a COMPLETE retcon of the ending.
There have been a few people come in and say they liked it.
I like it all the way 'till the explosions, if it counts.
Empty Space
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No you Zeliard, Shepard(GAF User), and the gaming press you are in good company.
I play ME for the story, but I don't really care about my own choices at all. It's cool seeing what carries over, but I don't play it for that at all. It's a nice cinematic experience with some deep lore, and enough wiggle room in the choices that it's kind of a neat little gimmick to me. As I said in my last post, Bioware, from what I've played, absolutely sucks at its framework stories, though. I don't think highly of them at all. They're either derivative and boring or shitty. But the smaller micro stories and characters are actually really good. Honestly they could take away the dialogue wheel, and I'd still probably play the game. I mean I'd be a bit less interested, but I'd still play it and still probably like it.
As for gameplay: I actually like the gameplay. As a third person shooter it's pretty decently fun. It's not Uncharted or anything, but I actually prefer the way it plays to Gears of War, honestly.
I don't mind it. I know it's got a few pretty large plotholes in it, but I don't mind the general idea, and I applaud them for taking a chance with it.
Hey I have my share of misgivings about it. Namely everything involving the Catalyst, which I thought could have been significantly better-handled (and Harbinger, wtf). But I don't think it's the abject horror that many others do, no.
Did you guys notice that this scene was modified in the game? I just remembered to mention it since I found the GIF in my files.
The camera zooms in and pans so it's less obvious that it happens.
The camera zooms in and pans so it's less obvious that it happens.
Well, the support group shall always be here until everyone is ready to move on. [Modified Post]
Empty Space
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Hey I have my share of misgivings about it. Namely everything involving the Catalyst, which I thought could have been significantly better-handled (and Harbinger, wtf). But I don't think it's the abject horror that many others do, no.
My bad I thought you were one the hardcore defenders. I apologize for lumping you in with the crazies.
They really had issues with the the Citadel as whole in the 3 games.
ME1
-The Citadel is a trap laid by the Reapers
-The Citadel controls all the mass relays
-The Keepers are the key to take control of the Citadel
-The Protheans that survived on Ilos went back and hacked the Citadel to prevent the Reapers to take control of it from afar through the keepers
-Reapers' master plan is to take control of the citadel, close all mass relays and eradicate the central intergalactic government.
-Saren, indoctrinated by Sovereign, has a convoluted plan to reach the council chamber of the Citadel where there is a hidden master control panel. Plan involve finding the Conduit through the use of a Rachni Queen. Saren had access to the room in the first place as a Spectre.
ME2
-If you did Choban quest in ME1 you get a message from him saying the Keepers are changing and are sending a modified signal. It implies the Reapers are coming/controlling them even if it's supposed to be impossible according to ME1 and what the protheans did.
ME3
-For some reason the Reapers leave the Citadel alone for the whole game even if their master plan involve using the Citadel to close the relays.
-The Citadel contains the master Reaper AI/Space Kid
-The Crucible can modify the Citadel to control reapers or merge synthetic and organic life for some reason.
-Crucible is the result of multiple civilizations from multiple cycles. This means they all build an incredible weapon/space magic gizmo and improved it from generations to generations without even knowing what it does as the space kid said Shepard was the first to make it up there. No way they could have known how it would change the Citadel
-Space kid had control over the Citadel in the first place
Find the logic flaws in the story.
I'm mainly just intrigued by the huge negative response to it. I find it pretty interesting to witness, especially what Bioware's DLC response will be. And then what the response to THAT will be, haha.
Are they really the crazies?
Here are the results for the cnet poll, unless it's still going. (I don't know since it's a Friday Poll.) Statistically speaking it's rare, meaning less than or equal to 5%, for people to like it.
Are they really the crazies?
Here are the results for the cnet poll, unless it's still going. (I don't know since it's a Friday Poll.) Statistically speaking it's rare (meaning less than 5%) for people to like it.
But that's just what gaming journalists call a "vocal minority"!
Empty Space
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There are a lot of flaws with the Reapers, Citadel, and Catalyst. Chorban's email is not one. All he says is that they are supposed to send a signal not that they are changing.
Here it is in full
I'm calling the pro ending people the crazies. I think the current ending is terrible on several levels.
If ME2 was any clue, then technically speaking, those that had a problem with the ending could be in the vocal minority... of the total people that played the game. lol
Can't believe only 50% of the people that started ME2 actually finished it.
SerArthurDayne
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If ME2 was any clue, then technically speaking, those that had a problem with the ending could be in the vocal minority... of the total people that played the game. lol
Can't believe only 50% of the people that started ME2 actually finished it.
I can't believe that 50% of the people continued from ME1. Not really pulling in the dude bros, are you Bioware.
edit: Also, are those recent stats? Because my ME2 playthrough was about 66 hours, but that is because I would just minimize and let it run in the background. I think it is actually impossible to have a legit playtime that long.
That's actually a good statistic. That means that half of the people who got it, finished it. Generally speaking, completion rates are very low.
I know you were. It was rhetorical.
Oblivionmancer
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My understanding of this was that Chorban was just late to the party with all the Keeper shenanigans at the end of Mass effect 1. But I could be wrong.
This is all totally true; in particular, I think it's crazy that the game doesn't start with a scramble to destroy/hide/something the citadel to stop the Reapers from bum rushing it, turning off the relays, and winning instantly. If I was the reapers that's what I would do at least. You know, because Sovereign almost pulled off 'alone' and all. Could have been a great decision point, citadel must be destroyed to stop Reapers from disabling the relays: do you a) order the fleet to hold and allow everyone to evacuate, losing a substantial chunk of the military might of the galaxy but saving hundreds of thousands of the galaxy's best and brightest, or do you sacrifice all those lives (the council?) in order to remain strong in the 'conventional' fleet war? Would have been neat, and made more sense. Oh well I guess.
Yeah, I know there are some games that are way lower. I think I remember reading some statistic on Grand Theft Auto IV and that had a really low percentage.
Have to wonder if a higher percentage will finish 3 just to see what all the fuss is.
It's likely because Aria's comic series was called the "Prequel to Mass Effect 3" in the comic itself and I think there were some Omega related missions in the script leak, they already have the missions written up all they'd have to do is build them. Also, compare the way Aria responds to the dialogue option regarding taking it back with Liara's dialogue about finding the shadow broker in ME2 when you don't have LOTSB.
Don't know what this has to do with Indoctrination Theory aside from the fact that the former exists and the other was pulled out of the ass of people in denial.
Not at all. I really, really enjoyed the ending.
Anything with a very long story line seems to attract these aspergers sufferers who can't deal with every story line being neatly rapped up. Just look at the people who couldn't deal with end ending of Lost, or The Sopranos, or any long running sci-fi series.
I could have told you 4 years ago that people were going to lose their shit when this game ended.
Only 10% of gamers finish games, lol. That's actually a very good number for ME2.
SerArthurDayne
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Lol. U serious dawg?
we aspergers yo
Felix Lighter
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I'm going to risk sounding stupid here but, I thought Saren's mission to find the Conduit was to find out what the protheans had done to prevent the keepers from activating the Citadel. The direct assault on the Citadel by Sovereign and Saren was an act of desperation that they resorted to only because Shepard had discovered the Reapers' plot.
Empty Space
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Seriously that's the insult you are going to throw out? A potentially debilitating social disorder is the insult you want to use to discredit people who have a differing opinion then you? Fuck Off! Everybody in this thread who has dislike the ending has given some pretty well thought out answers as to why and you should do the same to defend your own opinion. Seeing how this is your first post in the thread maybe you aren't capable of that?
Jon of the Wired
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If I give you a cake, but then shoot you in the knee as soon as you're finished eating it, does it really matter how delicious the cake was?
Psychoward
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iSurvivedTheOutage
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Maybe Shephards lover in the game is actually pregnant with his child who will then 20 years later travel through the Galaxies re-establishing the mass effect relays in another mass effect trilogy??
classy.
And Saren was already disgraced and outlawed so it isn't like he could just walk back onto the citadel.
SerArthurDayne
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Well, Asperger's is a difficulty with communication, right? So I think they are more likely to play the game, and to communicate about it on a message board rather than in person. He could be right!
I bitch about it in person and online, so I don't fall into his category, unfortunately. I also am cool with Lost and Sopranos. Battle Star Galactica was the worst, but at least you could see its stupidity coming.
I bitch about it in person and online, so I don't fall into his category, unfortunately. I also am cool with Lost and Sopranos. Battle Star Galactica was the worst, but at least you could see its stupidity coming.
Wow, classy guy.