There is a difference between thinking Bioware planned it all along and thinking they should just roll with it.
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There is a difference between thinking Bioware planned it all along and thinking they should just roll with it.
LightofRohan
Member
True that.
More glory for me when it's proven right!
But realistically, like I've said -- I think it's more that Bioware alluded to a lot of things, so it takes some responsibility off of their back. They can just say, "The ending isnt bad, just interpret what you want!". But I do feel indoctrination was a big one of those possibilities.
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Yeah. I don't think they planned it from the start but I DO think they should use it for a new ending.
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral
- Plotholes, lack of end game choice reflected by ingame actions.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 1, 2, 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? 3
Yeah. I don't think they planned it from the start but I DO think they should use it for a new ending.
We shall see.
I just finished watching the finale to season 4 of DS9...
Anyway, the coverage from every single site I've seen has been incredibly bad. This has been the one moment where I wonder what kind of discourse we want regarding video games. This has been some Fox-news level of bashing against fans and a blatant disregard for facts.
It's been denied by BW, but it's probably true. Weekes is going to be at PAX.
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral
- Ending doesn't fit; deus ex machina is a lazy out.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 1, 2, 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? 3
I enjoyed figuring out ME1's system but it's god awful in execution. ME2 was a clunky shooter but I loved building my squad and ME3 is good fun despite the ending.
Also, if there was any debate, let's put it to a close and agree Adept is the most powerful class in 1. You were literally untouchable when leveled with a focus on crowd control and weapons are powerful for any class anyway.
I've heard, yeah. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it though considering confirmation is as simple as asking a forum member there. It could be the vindication all the angry dudes want for whatever good that does them.
dilatedmuscle
Member
Yes i believe about the indoctrination but for now ill just leave this picture of EDI's mechanical camel toe.
SpectreFire
Member
I feel like this was one of my big problems with the final space battle in ME3
Thrown in the pit. To the rabid dogs he goes.
ME3 GAF Poll
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral (Indifferent)
- No connection with anything you've done before.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 1->2->3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? 3rd, if it wasn't for the ending.
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral (Indifferent)
- The ending is thematically inconsistent, nearly incoherent, and wholly unsatisfying. No thinking person can give this conclusion any serious consideration; it's objectively awful.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 1, 2, 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? 2
I'm totally immune to robocun--tributing.
ME3 GAF Poll
- What color did you pick? Red
- How do you feel about the ending? Hate
- Please describe why you feel this way.
- Choices/War Assets didn't matter
- Thematically inconsistent with the series up to that point
- Numerous plot holes
- Introduction of a new character at the very end
- No resolution on what happened to the characters and the galaxy
- Having to play multiplayer to get the "best" ending
- Please describe why you feel this way.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? No
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? No
- Have you played previous ME games? Yes
- In what order have you played the games? 1 -> 2 -> 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? Mass Effect
Empty Space
Member
Not really want a bigger one? I've got one at 1920x1200 if you'd like.
Or, you know, the opposite.
SerArthurDayne
Member
ME3 GAF Poll
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral (Indifferent)
- Please describe why you feel this way.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 1-3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? 1
ME3 GAF Poll
- What color did you pick? Blue
- How do you feel about the ending? Neutral (Indifferent)
- Please describe why you feel this way.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Yes
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Yes
- Have you played previous ME games? Yes
- In what order have you played the games? 1, 2, 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? 3
ME3 GAF Poll
Here you go.
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral (Indifferent)
- Please describe why you feel this way.
Never really enjoyed the series as much as other people, but I can understand why people are so upset over the lack of impact their choices had. Also that it doesn't fit within the lore, synthetics killing humans to protect them from synthetics, etc.
- Please describe why you feel this way.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 2, 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? 2
Here you go.
dilatedmuscle
Member
ME3 GAF Poll
I believe in the Indoctrination Theory. That being said, if it is proven, I believe most of the "non-believers" will just go ahead and complain about Biowares decision to go about it instead of just admitting they were wrong and accepting the fact that its a great story once IT is taken into consideration... If its proven to be false then ill just go ahead and say Bioware really blew it with their story by not using IT whether it was premeditated or not.
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral
- Plotholes, lack of end game choice reflected by ingame actions.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 1, 2, 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? 1
I believe in the Indoctrination Theory. That being said, if it is proven, I believe most of the "non-believers" will just go ahead and complain about Biowares decision to go about it instead of just admitting they were wrong and accepting the fact that its a great story once IT is taken into consideration... If its proven to be false then ill just go ahead and say Bioware really blew it with their story by not using IT whether it was premeditated or not.
Gouda Jouji
Member
ME3 GAF Poll
- What color did you pick? Blue
- How do you feel about the ending? Dislike
- Please describe why you feel this way.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Yes
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Yes
- Have you played previous ME games? Yes
- In what order have you played the games? 1 -> 2 -> 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? Mass Effect 2
It sucks there is a lot less speculation about the ending than people just saying it blows.
heliosRAzi
Banned
ME3 GAF Poll
- What color did you pick? Blue
- How do you feel about the ending? Dislike
- Please describe why you feel this way.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Maybe
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? No
- Have you played previous ME games? Yes
- In what order have you played the games? 1 -> 2 -> 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? Mass Effect 1
That's enough updating for tonight. I'll continue to do so tomorrow. If someone wants to help, PM me. Also, let's speculate on the data!
IE:
Most people have seemed to pick destroy.
Most hate it.
Less than half state that they will buy DLC.
Almost all would still pay for a DLC ending.
IE:
Most people have seemed to pick destroy.
Most hate it.
Less than half state that they will buy DLC.
Almost all would still pay for a DLC ending.
I would like to speculate on the dark age, but I really don't want to think about it.
heliosRAzi
Banned
Everything you know and love is dead
I really don't care about that. It's just that there are so many things to consider, plus the three options, plus the alternative universe/planet that Joker's lands on. So it's like, I'd rather just not think about it and do something else, like work on a spreadsheet. :|
ME3 GAF Poll
- What color did you pick? Blue
- How do you feel about the ending? Neutral
- Please describe why you feel this way.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? No. I can see where IT believers are coming from but I don't need IT to redeem the ending for me.
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Yes
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? No
- Have you played previous ME games? Yes
- In what order have you played the games? 1 -> 2 -> 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? Mass Effect 3
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I am saddened that I see a lot of people saying that they hated the ending...but will buy DLC.
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral (Indifferent)
- Please describe why you feel this way.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 1, 2, 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? ME1
I am saddened that I see a lot of people saying that they hated the ending...but will buy DLC.
I disliked the ending but enjoyed the game. I'm not going to deny myself some fun to make a point that has already been made.
Yeah, I'm kind of ashamed by it, but my "reasoning" is that if they produce a satisfying ending, it will be the way to fix the game for me. I did at least 3 playtroughs of the previous games (one paragon, one renegade, and a new-game+ "perfect" for import) but still haven't been able to start another for ME3.
So yes, it is rewarding their bad behavior, but it would help me enjoy the three games again. That being said, there's no way I'm buying anything Day-1 from Bioware now, so I will first read if is worth it, and it won't be from the gaming press.
Also, just updating my response to the quiz since there was a question added:
How could you guys buy DLC? What enjoyment would you get out of it? You're pretty much doing a meaningless mission, not to mention encouraging BioWare that no matter how bad they fuck up, people will still gladly eat up DLC. How could you not be insulted by that post game message?
"Congratulations on wasting your time playing Mass Effect. Sorry for that shit ending, but buy our DLC and continue the legacy! You know, the legacy that ends up with you dying and setting galactic civilization back hundreds of thousands of years. Yeah, that legacy"
I would only possibly consider MP DLC. The MP is actually enjoyable, just very limited in terms of content. SP however, would never even touch it even if the DLC was free.
"Congratulations on wasting your time playing Mass Effect. Sorry for that shit ending, but buy our DLC and continue the legacy! You know, the legacy that ends up with you dying and setting galactic civilization back hundreds of thousands of years. Yeah, that legacy"
I would only possibly consider MP DLC. The MP is actually enjoyable, just very limited in terms of content. SP however, would never even touch it even if the DLC was free.
Because I love the universe before I utterly doomed it.
Javik was worth it completely, but doubly so for Thessia. I don't know if you disliked Liara, but if you did, good old Prothy is a gift from Bioware.
TigerUppercut
Member
ME3 GAF Poll
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral (Indifferent)
- Please describe why you feel this way. It was an incoherent mess and it rendered every decision you've ever made in the entire series meaningless. The Starchild was also the worst possible direction they could have gone.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 1, 2, 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? 1
Arjen
Member
ME3 GAF Poll
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral (Indifferent)
- Please describe why you feel this way.
Full of plotholes, lack of choices, disregards all your previous choiches, introducing a new character in the last 5 minutes of a 100 hour game is dumber then dumb. - Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 1, 2, 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy 2
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Just play any other number of boring cover based shooters.
It weakens your point when you are considering MP DLC. It doesn't matter which mode it's in, it's in support of the game regardless.
As I said, it's still a fun game so, yes, I will buy DLC provided it's well done. If I weren't, I would have returned my copy to Amazon the moment I finished it. My feelings on the main narrative is, as described in an earlier post, "unequivocal indifference"** yet I am open to new episodes or adventures. Why shouldn't I? Taking a stand now will accomplish nothing.
The decision has already been made for me; thousands of fans complained enough that Bioware has all but confirmed a supplement to the ending. I didn't ask for any of that, I just want to play a game.
**As a result of the ending.
You have no quarrels with purchasing DLC of corrective nature?
dilatedmuscle
Member
This just occurred to me. People were talking about the IT being false because of the documents of the writers. Supposedly there were writers who had no mention of IT. But one of the writers officially said that Casey Hudson had everything peer reviewed up until the ending of the game. Sure there could be documents from writers stating nothing about the Indoctrination being a part of the final moments but they dont know for sure what was going on through Casey Hudsons mind as he planned parts of the game in isolation with no peer review.
What part of my sentence was not obvious? I'm sorry but I vote with my money and I only pay for what I want. And what I want is corrective ending. No buts, no exceptions.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
ME3 GAF Poll
- What color did you pick? R/G/B
- How do you feel about the ending? Like/Dislike/Hate/Neutral (Indifferent)
- Please describe why you feel this way. I've spent 100s of hours replaying each game building up relationships with people and races trying to get the best possible ending to each game for my own personal reasons, being told that my choices matter and that we wouldnt get an a, b or c ending, in the end none of my choices mattered and i dont get any closure apart from some magical a,b or c plot hole ridden ending.
- Are you indoctrinated (believe in the theory)? Yes/No
- In general will you buy ME3 DLC? Y/N
- Would you buy a revised interactive ending DLC? Y/N Reluctantly
- Have you played previous ME games? Y/N
- In what order have you played the games? 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 3
- Favorite game in the trilogy? 2
I don't think you understand what you are saying.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
I would be insulted if they expect people to pay to let them fix their own mess, what ever comes out should be thought of as a story patch and should be free, they can pull the money from advertising to pay for it.