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Mass Effect 3 Spoiler Thread |OT2| Taste the Rainbow

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Galactic Fork

A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
The synthesis ending is the most evil choice to me. You're forcing every bit of life in the galaxy to change at your will. And apparently this will bring "peace" to all. But that just also means everybody's minds were changed and they're not who they were. You killed everybody in the galaxy and replaced them with some happy homogenized person. Great job.
 
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Myomoto

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Replicant said:
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You maniacs! You blew it all up! GODDAMN YOU! GODAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
 
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Zeliard

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Galactic Fork said:
The synthesis ending is the most evil choice to me. You're forcing every bit of life in the galaxy to change at your will. And apparently this will bring "peace" to all. But that just also means everybody's minds were changed and they're not who they were. You killed everybody in the galaxy and replaced them with some happy homogenized person. Great job.
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EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
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HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
Galactic Fork said:
The synthesis ending is the most evil choice to me. You're forcing every bit of life in the galaxy to change at your will. And apparently this will bring "peace" to all. But that just also means everybody's minds were changed and they're not who they were. You killed everybody in the galaxy and replaced them with some happy homogenized person. Great job.
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I didnt get that impression at all. They arent a hivemind.
 
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Shepard

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Galactic Fork said:
The synthesis ending is the most evil choice to me. You're forcing every bit of life in the galaxy to change at your will. And apparently this will bring "peace" to all. But that just also means everybody's minds were changed and they're not who they were. You killed everybody in the galaxy and replaced them with some happy homogenized person. Great job.
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It's the final evolutionary stage, the one who turns them into superior beings. I didn't see this as "you brainwashed them", more like you widened their views. Imo, it's the best ending.
 
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McNei1y

Member
Galactic Fork said:
The synthesis ending is the most evil choice to me. You're forcing every bit of life in the galaxy to change at your will. And apparently this will bring "peace" to all. But that just also means everybody's minds were changed and they're not who they were. You killed everybody in the galaxy and replaced them with some happy homogenized person. Great job.
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I definitely agree. Shepard is trying to understand the situation when he/she is talking to Star Child. If I recall, Shepard asks SC to allow them to prove that the outcome that SC talks about is all wrong. Shepard asks to allow the people to live out their lives... Then there is an option to allow everyone become homogenized contradicting his begging aspect as well as the entire plot of 1 + 2.
 
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Replicant

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Galactic Fork said:
The synthesis ending is the most evil choice to me. You're forcing every bit of life in the galaxy to change at your will. And apparently this will bring "peace" to all. But that just also means everybody's minds were changed and they're not who they were. You killed everybody in the galaxy and replaced them with some happy homogenized person. Great job.
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I agree. I mean, no one asked for Shepard to make that decision on their behalf. The Geth's genocide is unfortunate but at least there's a possibility that they can be rebuild. But there's no going back from being half-mutant.
 
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Shepard

Member
Replicant said:
I agree. I mean, no one asked for Shepard to make that decision on their behalf. The Geth's genocide is unfortunate but at least there's a possibility that they can be rebuild. But there's no going back from being half-mutant.
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Good luck recreating the technology needed to rebuild everything.
 
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Tookay

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Shepard said:
It's the final evolutionary stage, the one who turns them into superior beings. I didn't see this as "you brainwashed them", more like you widened their views. Imo, it's the best ending.
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Its repercussions are so poorly explained - hell even the manner it "synthesizes" doesn't make any sense - that it feels like any interpretation here is valid, though it probably wasn't their intent for people to take that ending in a bad way.
 
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HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
Replicant said:
I agree. I mean, no one asked for Shepard to make that decision on their behalf. The Geth's genocide is unfortunate but at least there's a possibility that they can be rebuild. But there's no going back from being half-mutant.
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Cyborg. Think of the possibilities for porn!
 
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Replicant

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McNei1y said:
Oh, I just thought it was two squadmates since they were both with me when Harbinger did his laser stuff.
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One of the squadmates usually appear in the Normandy ending if you choose the Control ending. So the addition of the other squadmate is definitely a replacement for Miranda not being one of the Normandy crew in this game.

Shepard said:
Good luck recreating the technology needed to rebuild everything.
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Even with synthetics ending, the technology is set back to the point of no space travel even after 10,000 years have passed. The ending is that fucked up. Plus, Shepard has done one genocide before. What's another one on his resume list?
 
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HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
Tookay said:
Its repercussions are so poorly explained - hell even the manner it "synthesizes" doesn't make any sense - that it feels like any interpretation here is valid, though it probably wasn't their intent for people to take that ending in a bad way.
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And thats how the singularity happened, kids.
 
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inky

Member
Replicant said:
I agree. I mean, no one asked for Shepard to make that decision on their behalf. The Geth's genocide is unfortunate but at least there's a possibility that they can be rebuild. But there's no going back from being half-mutant.
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A true renegade Shepard would've put two bullets through starchild's incorporeal body, stormed out from there, asked Joker for a pickup and gathered the biggest ships in the galaxy, exposed their eezo cores, lured every Reaper there and crashed the ships into the Citadel herself, hoping the subsequent explosion takes them all out.

She would've taken none of that starchild bullshit.
 
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Myomoto

Member
Chinner said:
yu guys know that the witcher 2 is having its ending redone and it's for free!
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...why? Pretty everything about the Witcher 2 was amazing.


inky said:
A true renegade Shepard would've put two bullet through starchild's incorporeal body, stormed out from there, asked Joker for a pickup and gathered the biggest ships in the galaxy, exposed their eezo cores, lure every Reaper there and crashed the ships into the Citadel herself, hoping the subsequent explosion takes them all out.

None of that starchild bullshit.
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Something I never understood. You blow up the Citadel no matter what ending you pick. So the God Child is just ok with getting killed?
 
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heliosRAzi

Banned
Tookay said:
Its repercussions are so poorly explained - hell even the manner it "synthesizes" doesn't make any sense - that it feels like any interpretation here is valid, though it probably wasn't their intent for people to take that ending in a bad way.
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Shepard is part synthetic. Destroy option destroys all synthetic life. If you EMS is high enough (why in the hell would that even factor in?) Shepard survives despite being part synthetic.

Bioware is crap.
 
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Galactic Fork

A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Shepard said:
It's the final evolutionary stage, the one who turns them into superior beings. I didn't see this as "you brainwashed them", more like you widened their views. Imo, it's the best ending.
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Soooo you believed the giant space being whose solution before was to brutally murder every civilization over and over and over for millions of years. Just took everything he said at face value.

And forcing somebody to have "wider views" would still be brainwashing.

heliosRAzi said:
Shepard is part synthetic. Destroy option destroys all synthetic life. If you EMS is high enough (why in the hell would that even factor in?) Shepard survives despite being part synthetic.

Bioware is crap.
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If you have high enough EMS he doesn't say much of your technology will also be destroyed. This is why big ben doesn't blow up. Shepard just has Synthetic augmentation, she isn't actually synthetic. Just technologically altered in a way that would be destroyed by the 5000+ EMS ending.
 
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Bowdz

Member
Galactic Fork said:
The synthesis ending is the most evil choice to me. You're forcing every bit of life in the galaxy to change at your will. And apparently this will bring "peace" to all. But that just also means everybody's minds were changed and they're not who they were. You killed everybody in the galaxy and replaced them with some happy homogenized person. Great job.
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I completely agree. Even with the genocide of the geth stemming from the destroy option, the synthesis ending seem far more malicious and completely against what Shepard was fighting for (free will/self determination). Instead of kill synthetics you forcibly overwrite every living creature in the galaxy causing some unknown quantity of change (hell, they may not even remember who they are after the synthesis). The only consolation is the fact the relay supernova probably wiped out most of the homogenized beings at least bringing some peace to the husk like beings.
 
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McNei1y

Member
Galactic Fork said:
The synthesis ending is the most evil choice to me. You're forcing every bit of life in the galaxy to change at your will. And apparently this will bring "peace" to all. But that just also means everybody's minds were changed and they're not who they were. You killed everybody in the galaxy and replaced them with some happy homogenized person. Great job.
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Did anyone name their Shepard "Commander"? Commander Commander Shepard.

That way the Dr. Chakwas convo would be even more confusing.
 
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Eusis

Member
heliosRAzi said:
Shepard is part synthetic. Destroy option destroys all synthetic life. If you EMS is high enough (why in the hell would that even factor in?) Shepard survives despite being part synthetic.

Bioware is crap.
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I THINK the logic is that higher EMS means you had more people working on the Crucible, and more defending it, therefore it worked better. On the lowest, when you have it destroy it fucks up and annihilates the entire surface of Earth, on the highest it can discern the difference between an organic being with augmentations (Shepard) and a proper synthetic.
 
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Replicant

Member
inky said:
A true renegade Shepard would've put two bullet through starchild's incorporeal body, stormed out from there, asked Joker for a pickup and gathered the biggest ships in the galaxy, exposed their eezo cores, lure every Reaper there and crashed the ships into the Citadel herself, hoping the subsequent explosion takes them all out.

None of that starchild bullshit.
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That'd be the ideal ending. I'd even accept the usual Final Fantasy ending where starchild morphed into grotesque monster, which is his true form, and we have 6 rounds fights against him.

Eusis said:
I THINK the logic is that higher EMS means you had more people working on the Crucible, and more defending it, therefore it worked better. On the lowest, when you have it destroy it fucks up and annihilates the entire surface of Earth, on the highest it can discern the difference between an organic being with augmentations (Shepard) and a proper synthetic.
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Good point. Some parts of the EMS do involve finding parts for crucible that necessitates a few things.
 
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Shake Appeal

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What I don't get is how the green space magic knows which inorganic, soulless objects to imbue with the 'new DNA' and which to, you know, leave as is. Like, do rocks and minerals become synthesized? Or just metals? Or is it only those particular metals that happen to walk and talk? How does it distinguish between these?

Space magic, how does it work?
 
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Omega

Banned
Galactic Fork said:
The synthesis ending is the most evil choice to me. You're forcing every bit of life in the galaxy to change at your will. And apparently this will bring "peace" to all. But that just also means everybody's minds were changed and they're not who they were. You killed everybody in the galaxy and replaced them with some happy homogenized person. Great job.
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What if your a renegade Shepard?

Wouldn't you make everyone evil?
 
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Jake Tower

Banned
Shake Appeal said:
What I don't get is how the green space magic knows which inorganic, soulless objects to imbue with the 'new DNA' and which to, you know, leave as is. Like, do rocks and minerals become synthesized? Or just metals? Or is it only those particular metals that happen to walk and talk? How does it distinguish between these?

Space magic, how does it work?
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Well, we do know that leaves become cyborgs, and Joker's cap, too.

LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
 
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heliosRAzi

Banned
Eusis said:
I THINK the logic is that higher EMS means you had more people working on the Crucible, and more defending it, therefore it worked better. On the lowest, when you have it destroy it fucks up and annihilates the entire surface of Earth, on the highest it can discern the difference between an organic being with augmentations (Shepard) and a proper synthetic.
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Makes sense somewhat
 
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Metroidvania

People called Romanes they go the house?
Shake Appeal said:
What I don't get is how the green space magic knows which inorganic, soulless objects to imbue with the 'new DNA' and which to, you know, leave as is. Like, do rocks and minerals become synthesized? Or just metals? Or is it only those particular metals that happen to walk and talk? How does it distinguish between these?

Space magic, how does it work?
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Cyborg leaves and speculation, sir. You have to use your imagination.
 
Tokubetsu

Tokubetsu

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Bowdz said:
I completely agree. Even with the genocide of the geth stemming from the destroy option, the synthesis ending seem far more malicious and completely against what Shepard was fighting for (free will/self determination). Instead of kill synthetics you forcibly overwrite every living creature in the galaxy causing some unknown quantity of change (hell, they may not even remember who they are after the synthesis). The only consolation is the fact the relay supernova probably wiped out most of the homogenized beings at least bringing some peace to the husk like beings.
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Nah, they remember who they are, otherwise how would Joker still love EDI? Space Magic.
 
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HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
Galactic Fork said:
Soooo you believed the giant space being whose solution before was to brutally murder every civilization over and over and over for millions of years. Just took everything he said at face value.

And forcing somebody to have "wider views" would still be brainwashing.



If you have high enough EMS he doesn't say much of your technology will also be destroyed. This is why big ben doesn't blow up. Shepard just has Synthetic augmentation, she isn't actually synthetic. Just technologically altered in a way that would be destroyed by the 5000+ EMS ending.
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Hey singularity was coming anyway. Might as well get it the fuck over with.

Leaves are coming too. Get the fuck on the bus, leaves.
 
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Myomoto

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McNei1y said:
Did anyone name their Shepard "Commander"? Commander Commander Shepard.

That way the Dr. Chakwas convo would be even more confusing.
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I love how much 4th wall breaking there is in ME3. "I'll never call you by your first name, because we let players actually pick that in first game, and we can't record VO for it then!", or Shepard pointing out how it doesn't make any sense that the pre-nomad quarians are wearing suits, with Legions response basically being "Well shit, we didn't have the budget to make a few non-suit quarians just for this little part of the game.", and the constant jokes about Garrus and his goddamn calibrations.
 
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Galactic Fork

A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Eusis said:
I THINK the logic is that higher EMS means you had more people working on the Crucible, and more defending it, therefore it worked better. On the lowest, when you have it destroy it fucks up and annihilates the entire surface of Earth, on the highest it can discern the difference between an organic being with augmentations (Shepard) and a proper synthetic.
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Except they don't differentiate between war assets going to the Crucible or to the war. The Krogans don't really help get the crucible built. So there'd be no difference if you made it a point to get all the military assets but ignored scientific.
 
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