heliosRAzi
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You're entitledness destroyed the relays!
I can't believe I actually got into an argument with people over the relays being destroyed in the original endings.
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Mass Effect 3 Spoiler Thread |OT2| Taste the Rainbow
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You're entitledness destroyed the relays!
I can't believe I actually got into an argument with people over the relays being destroyed in the original endings.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I suppose now they will think that they were right all along and we just "didn't get it". lol
heliosRAzi
Banned
We were blinded by their artistic vision.
heliosRAzi
Banned
Harbinger: You dare refuse to accept my circular and flawed logic? Game over.
heliosRAzi
Banned
You get to see a krogan baby. The relays aren't destroyed. Space magic still happens. Green glowing eyes.
Nope.
Rebel Leader
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better... yes
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I would say they're "not too stupid" at best.
That's subjective.
There's more information about the choices you have to make at the end.
Some of the questions are answered and you get information about what happens to the galaxy after the game is over
Rebel Leader
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I'm kind undecided if I want to watch them on Youtube or play them myself. I mean it's an hour long of shooting Banshees and Marauder Shields and whatnot, and I don't want to do that again, but I kinda want to see my Shep again and how she does this time.
Release the thing on PC already, darn it!
Release the thing on PC already, darn it!
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Unfortunately the post-credits scene doesn't support this. lol
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Synthesis is still bat shit insanity and the exposition only serves to make it creepy. A new DNA. Sigh, good lord.
Control actually kind of works, despite it being very close to that cartoon (which is funny). He is 'The Shepard' after all, now literally. Goes well with the whole messianistic theme. He's basically a god now. Including worrying undertones.
Destroy works, too, I suppose, but I still think Shep waking up among rubble is daft fan-service. But that's Bioware, I guess.
The 'hidden' ending is actually really nice, I think. Good on them for remembering Liara's beacon. That's another one of those missed opportunities that was just bizarre in its absence.
The relays aren't entirely destroyed, just damaged. The fleet leaves before the crucible does its thing, good. Why the Normandy is leaving is fittingly explained as well, which makes me wonder why they couldn't have done this the first time around.
It's definitely improved, but the most glaring mistake, aka everything about Space Kid and the Reapers' purpose is still intact and dumb as ever, but I didn't expect them to just cut with Anderson and Shep dying next to each other.
Also: Baby Krogan. Aaaw. ^_^
Don't they have hundreds of children...? I guess they love each. And. Every. One.
Control actually kind of works, despite it being very close to that cartoon (which is funny). He is 'The Shepard' after all, now literally. Goes well with the whole messianistic theme. He's basically a god now. Including worrying undertones.
Destroy works, too, I suppose, but I still think Shep waking up among rubble is daft fan-service. But that's Bioware, I guess.
The 'hidden' ending is actually really nice, I think. Good on them for remembering Liara's beacon. That's another one of those missed opportunities that was just bizarre in its absence.
The relays aren't entirely destroyed, just damaged. The fleet leaves before the crucible does its thing, good. Why the Normandy is leaving is fittingly explained as well, which makes me wonder why they couldn't have done this the first time around.
It's definitely improved, but the most glaring mistake, aka everything about Space Kid and the Reapers' purpose is still intact and dumb as ever, but I didn't expect them to just cut with Anderson and Shep dying next to each other.
Also: Baby Krogan. Aaaw. ^_^
Don't they have hundreds of children...? I guess they love each. And. Every. One.
Blue Ninja
Member
By the way, what was this about a woman replacing Buzz Aldrin? Because all the three endings I saw still had him.
And they had a great opportunity to get Harbinger do some menacing dialog. Instead, more space kid. Ffuuuuu.
And they had a great opportunity to get Harbinger do some menacing dialog. Instead, more space kid. Ffuuuuu.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, she's in the new Refusal ending. They probably couldn't get Buzz to come back.
That said, they should have just redone the other ending as well, but oh well.
Blue Ninja
Member
Ah, I see. I actually found it easier to accept space kids terms this time around. Maybe because I had accepted his presence already. But the actual choice was a bit tougher to make.
I figured he was just looking around the cockpit because the ship is fucking exploding...
By the way, I still don't understand how the Normandy gets caught in the relay explosion, but nothing else seems to get harmed by it?
Someone said, and correctly so, that the old man part makes no sense considering the new info we have in all the endings
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It totally makes no sense. It assumes the old ending, where the Relays are destroyed and everyone is cut off from each other. In fact, it makes it sound like they are a bunch of space hicks who have been living under a rock for hundreds of years.
Goddamnit, after now having spent a little time again to think about the endings I'm almost even more pissed off about the entire proposition of the kid presenting you with 3 choices. It doesn't make any fucking sense.
"Here Shep, it's a big red button that will destroy us, press it or we'll kill you! Or press this other button and you'll get to control us and use us to protect organics from any eventual uprising from synthetics. But we sure as shit won't offer you that protection on our own, now press the button or we'll kill you! Or finally, press this last button and merge organics with synthetics so that we can live in peace and harmony forever and ever. This is ultimately the choice we want you to make, but we won't actually force you to press this button, we'll just kill you if you don't choose any of the buttons!".
WHY?!
"Here Shep, it's a big red button that will destroy us, press it or we'll kill you! Or press this other button and you'll get to control us and use us to protect organics from any eventual uprising from synthetics. But we sure as shit won't offer you that protection on our own, now press the button or we'll kill you! Or finally, press this last button and merge organics with synthetics so that we can live in peace and harmony forever and ever. This is ultimately the choice we want you to make, but we won't actually force you to press this button, we'll just kill you if you don't choose any of the buttons!".
WHY?!
Any excuse to post Phalanx's boxart is a good enough excuse.
Certainly a possibility. The way the scene is directed though I tend to get that impression.
Blue Ninja
Member
Anyone have a rip of the new star child theme yet? Or the ending theme? Because damn, that's some good work.
I liked how they added dialogue options with star child so he actually explained more of his bullshit nonsense... however, even after the extra dialogue it is still a horrible ending.
They showed a picture of Miranda so that made me happy, and the Korgan baby was a nice touch, but overall, it's basically the same bullshit. They explained why Joker was originally flying away for no reason.
But yeah, if you haven't played it yet and are expected something a lot better, don't, because it's not.
They showed a picture of Miranda so that made me happy, and the Korgan baby was a nice touch, but overall, it's basically the same bullshit. They explained why Joker was originally flying away for no reason.
But yeah, if you haven't played it yet and are expected something a lot better, don't, because it's not.
Blue Ninja
Member
The man is a genius.
Maybe he should've written the ending in music form. Like a musical or something.
But Mordin dies before the ending. That wouldn't work out, dude.
I just watched the Destroy ending on Youtube. I'm happy they at least added more information on where the Normandy was going and what happened to everyone.
It's still a mess though but at least its a bit more understandable. I mean, there's no reason to have the Normandy crash land on that world now. The new scene shows them taking off. It's like a contradiction to people's theories about them starting a new life there or something! Then the old man and the child scene is still confusing. Hackett said they'll be able to repair everything. Then this scene about The Shepard and how these people are cutoff from space? Huh!!
Oh well, sort of happy with this. It's still embarrassing that the whole fan made indoctrination theory worked better. I guess they added the Hackett line so they can go on and make more Mass Effects.
It's still a mess though but at least its a bit more understandable. I mean, there's no reason to have the Normandy crash land on that world now. The new scene shows them taking off. It's like a contradiction to people's theories about them starting a new life there or something! Then the old man and the child scene is still confusing. Hackett said they'll be able to repair everything. Then this scene about The Shepard and how these people are cutoff from space? Huh!!
Oh well, sort of happy with this. It's still embarrassing that the whole fan made indoctrination theory worked better. I guess they added the Hackett line so they can go on and make more Mass Effects.
PinkCrayon
Member
The music during control voiceover is really fucking good.
It's pretty ambiguous, the new context (Relay not destroyed) makes it just sound like he's talking to a child that's never been on a space ship. It still diminishes the scene somewhat, as you say, but it's not a new hole, I don't think.
True. I guess he could be educating the child about space and how fucking massive it is. Why is the old man's name Stargazer though? Aw well, I should stop nitpicking.
PinkCrayon
Member
Stop nitpicking, my sweeeeeet.
Blue Ninja
Member
The kid's proportions are still fucking weird, though.
I'll post a few quick impressions of EC here because I'm not sure if the thread is the right place. I only saw Control and Rejection.
An Oblivion for effort but it still builds on bad ideas so it couldn't surpass too much really.
- Control is now the perfect ending. There's literally no downside to that ending. I've understood Synthesis is the same thing with everyone immortal, but Control is almost too positive.
- Why did my crew place a plate that said "Commander Shepard" on the death board? I had a fucking first name. It didn't say "Doctor Solus" or "Admiral Anderson" for those respective characters. I'm sure there is a reasonable character limit for names too, they obviously had enough space.
- Rejection was the opposite of Control's positiveness: everything Shepard says are great lines for rejecting his propositions, and then everyone just apparently dies.
- Why was Stargazer's model a Marauder and why was the child's model a Volus? I appreciate the effort in not having them be at all related to humans though.
- Facial animations in the added scenes looked incredible. Kaydan and Joker looked genuinely sad in their final scenes, the animations there were out of place with how they actually moved the entire face.
An Oblivion for effort but it still builds on bad ideas so it couldn't surpass too much really.
So Bioware have lowered requirements for getting the best ending: http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mas...-the-EMS-and-the-Extended-Cut-12695580-1.html
PinkCrayon
Member
That because he's the same model as Buzz, just shrunk down. Looks really funny.
Cant really decide if i like Control or Synthesis better, loved Edi's speech in the Synth-Ending but it feels too much like the ultimate happy ending (and the Cerbrus choice -> Synthesis = next step in evolution).So I played through the ending once, selecting the "get the fuck outta here with that bullshit" ending, and lo and behold, it's a bunker in the future with Dr. Liara T'Soni's archives set up, warning the future cycles about what transpired.
Am I supposed to be pleased that this glaringly obvious yet awesome brainstormed-by-the-community ending was included, or roll my eyes at the laziness that that entails? I'm currently undecided.
Am I supposed to be pleased that this glaringly obvious yet awesome brainstormed-by-the-community ending was included, or roll my eyes at the laziness that that entails? I'm currently undecided.
Take it as another reminder of the lost opportunity to include it the first time and as a collective slap to the forehead on Bioware's part.
From the other thread:
They should have just kept it as Destroy and Control as possible overall outcomes, which was basically what had been preached upon you since the 2nd game.
Illusive man wanted to control the reapers, everyone else wanted to destroy them; or you fail and you all die (rejection end).
The synthesis ending is just... weird.
At least Destroy and Control are somewhat thematically consistent with the overall series, unlike the organic/synthetic conflict that somehow took center-stage in ME3.
--now I need to go back and read stuff in here.
Wow, they didn't remove the kid and grandpa? That shit makes no sense now. Something that just needs to be ignored.
They should have just kept it as Destroy and Control as possible overall outcomes, which was basically what had been preached upon you since the 2nd game.
Illusive man wanted to control the reapers, everyone else wanted to destroy them; or you fail and you all die (rejection end).
The synthesis ending is just... weird.
At least Destroy and Control are somewhat thematically consistent with the overall series, unlike the organic/synthetic conflict that somehow took center-stage in ME3.
--now I need to go back and read stuff in here.
Wow, they didn't remove the kid and grandpa? That shit makes no sense now. Something that just needs to be ignored.
Complistic
Member
the ending is still ridiculous but at least the characters aren't all stranded on a random planet.
I'll take it. Thought it was going to be much worse.
I'll take it. Thought it was going to be much worse.
How the hell did they repair the Normandy so quickly?
I don't like the 2D thing, but w/e.
I've seen the Destroy and Fuck You endings, so far. I got the breath part even though I don't have 5000 w/e points.
At least we see the "Asari figure" now. The one that was described in the text file.
I don't like the 2D thing, but w/e.
I've seen the Destroy and Fuck You endings, so far. I got the breath part even though I don't have 5000 w/e points.
At least we see the "Asari figure" now. The one that was described in the text file.
Complistic
Member
Still quick considering it was badly destroyed.
R_thanatos
Member
Well the normandy crew is the best on the galaxy after all so no reason to believe they should be stranded like "normal" characters