Mass Effect Franchise bitching thread
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water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Pretty sure the people not liking ME didnt do that. As least from what ive seen, on GAF or elsewhere.APZonerunner said:
AdventChild
Neo Member
BigJiantRobut said:
So true. Neogaf is full of crybaby cheerleaders.
Mass Effect is the best space opera I've played. By far.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Billychu said:
It's not.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Well it's also filled with sperm stained cheerleaders as well....AdventChild said:
EmCeeGramr
Member
Oh, since I saw in here that you made a LTTP thread about ME and Star Control, let me enlighten you as to the Reaper's motivations.water_wendi said:
Humans are The Magical Best Species, so if you abduct enough humans and melt them into people goo, you can make a robot that looks like a giant Terminator that will become the core inside a Reaper's big cuttlefish spaceship shell. Apparently they do this every time they wipe out the galaxy, turning species into goo so they can make giant robot skeleton versions of the "best" species (lol). That's apparently how they reproduce.
They couldn't do it to the Protheans 50,000 years ago for some reason, so they turned them into bug people by completely rewriting their DNA. Which is kinda crazy, since if you can basically completely change a species at the genetic level then why any naturally evolved through trial-and-error species would be considered the "best" while others are "flawed" is silly.
(And yes, a Reaper will at times taunt your alien teammates by pointing out "flaws" in their species' genes, including shorter lifespans, artificially-induced sterility that can be cured and isn't really genetic, weak immune systems brought about by isolation, "primitiveness," and a reproductive strategy that is purely cultural).
Fimbulvetr
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AdventChild said:
Doesn't whining about people making fun of something you like and then topping it off with "x is best y ever" kinda make you a crybaby cheerleader?
a Master Ninja
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If you let the Council die aren't they replaced by humans?Sennorin said:
Typographenia
Member
She can't have grown as a character after interacting with aliens in ME1?Sennorin said:
I always viewed Ashley as more distrusting of aliens. She was born and raised on earth, attended an alliance academy, and she's never really dealt with aliens in a professional situation such as it is. She's concerned about alliance technology and secrets being leaked, and I can see where that might be a problem. They haven't had the greatest of time with the other races to that point, and Saren being a turian isn't exactly helping things.
I still don't approve of spectre status, though.
Well, I'm glad someone's sticking to the original intent of the thread with such enthusiasm.AdventChild said:
blizzardjesus
Banned
I'm the only one who will say this(personal preference), but i wish the game didn't have the dialog system and just presented a linear experience/story.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Yes, in which case it makes perfect sense in ME2 why those racist alien bastards won't investigate humanity's colonies being being abdu waita Master Ninja said:
Rahxephon91
Banned
Who cares! It's not like the council plays any importance in two making the choice feel pretty irrelevant, at least at this time.a Master Ninja said:
But yeah I'm sure they do, but why would the aliens just allow humans to take over?
No, Ashley fucking hates aliens because they ruined the military career of her entire family because her dad/uncle/grandfather was the only human to surrender to Turians in the First Contact War. Her entire family is shamed in the Alliance. She is the last person you want to join the space gestapo.Typographenia said:
Fimbulvetr
Member
Billychu said:
Not really.
The only alien she actively hates is Liara, but that's due to a combination of suspicion and the fact that they both want to get in Shep's pants because he's so super awesome or whatever.
Fimbulvetr
Member
EmCeeGramr said:
"Humans are so genetically diverse."
What about the Asari? Don't they have natural biotics and the ability to literally steal DNA from other species?
"Ugh, those space whores? Fuck 'em."
MrOogieBoogie said:
One of the coolest aspects of ME1 by FAR. Suggested a direction that the series, sadly, didn't continue in.
MrOogieBoogie said:
For a few of them yes, but it did get a little repetitive when you knew that every barren planet was gonna have a base somewhere on it that you had to infiltrate. The odd pyramid and orb were awesome though. Absolutely nothing came of them in ME2 though.
Once again, something that they could've built on but instead removed completely.
AdventChild
Neo Member
Fimbulvetr said:
To your question: nope.
When I dislike something, I'm not going topic by topic throwing shit.
When I started playing ME1, I didn't know that top = good; down = bad. I was doing what I thought it was the most common sense thing, sometimes one, other times the other.
Then I figured it out and the game got a lot sillier (still like ME1 for its story and some of the characters of ME2, but, at this point, I almost with they would stop pretending there are choices.)
Then I figured it out and the game got a lot sillier (still like ME1 for its story and some of the characters of ME2, but, at this point, I almost with they would stop pretending there are choices.)
Rahxephon91
Banned
Isn't that what you are doing right now in this very thread?AdventChild said:
Billychu said:
Ehh I would disagree with that, I personally have a great amount of issues with alot of things that Bioware does these days, but i'm glad the give the option of creating your character.
I really don't know why and to be honest I know it probably won't make me very popular but i've just always had a difficult time playing games with female protagonists. I don't have anything against the gaming industry having strong female leads, I've just never really cared to play as female in my games. (exception, I guess being Okami)
I've never really understood why some have such a negative view of the male shep though, is it just because Bioware actually places that all to forgotten quality in gaming of making a playable female character worth a damn?
AdventChild
Neo Member
Rahxephon91 said:
"Topic by topic". Easy to understand if you are not a cheerleader.
Fimbulvetr
Member
AdventChild said:
Exactly.
Cheerleaders tend to.... cheer for something.
AdventChild said:
Isn't that more like a door to door salesman?
AdventChild
Neo Member
Fimbulvetr said:
Im not selling nothing. Im just writing about Neogaf and Mass Effect relationship.
bobnowhere
Member
I kind of understand why both Ashley and Kaidan are spectres now. It's a cheap way of equalising the characters making sure they can play the same role in the game depending on who lived. It would be nice if they acknowledged the pre standing canon, but it's clear from bioware that awesomeness overrides canon every time.
IndieJones said:
You're by no means alone.
For me, it was very much about providing a sense of mobility and environment. Having the ability to navigate planets in the Mako (though repetitive and often frustrating) gave me the feeling of exploration, discovery, and wonder that I crave in RPGs.
The trip along the Noveria mountain path to the Hot Labs is a prime example--moving from bustling station to the remote labs gave me spacial sense of location and environment. Thus the Hot Labs, to me, felt exactly as though they are described by characters-- an isolated, secretive place removed from the relative civilization of Noveria station -- accomplished only via the physical, visible experience of movement from one place to another.
With ME2, I found the lack of this exploration and visible movement (basically just dropping into the immediate destination) to upset my contextual sense of space/place, and made me care much less about the places I was visiting. Anyway, that's my biggest gripe.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Reading this depresses me 
I really, really like ME2 but it doesn't compare to the first game at all. The more I read about 3, the less I think we're going to get the sequel that ME1 deserved/a good ending to the trilogy.
Bioware had maybe the best new IP this gen and are throwing it away.
I really, really like ME2 but it doesn't compare to the first game at all. The more I read about 3, the less I think we're going to get the sequel that ME1 deserved/a good ending to the trilogy.
Bioware had maybe the best new IP this gen and are throwing it away.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Billychu said:
Especially Shepard.
IcyBlueStrawberry
Member
Damn...
This is the last time I enter an intentionally negative thread about one of my favourite games :/
It's funny how seeing other peoples gripes with something can make you rethink your own choices.
This is the last time I enter an intentionally negative thread about one of my favourite games :/
It's funny how seeing other peoples gripes with something can make you rethink your own choices.
Riposte
Member
The thing that bothers me most about the Mass Effect trilogy is that it clearly wasn't planned like a trilogy should be. This made worse by the fact that it has roleplaying and your choices keep on being regulated to unimportant. Aside from this you have issues like the lore being tossed out for a simple mechanic adjustment and Shepard pretend-dying at the very end of ME1 to for real-dying at the very beginning of ME2.
EDIT: If I was in control of the series, I would have 2's finale be the end of the Reaper's plan for good(thus making it meaningful). 3 would be mostly about two things: 1) the aftermath of ME1 and 2's events, mainly Shepard's fame and the conflicting relationships made in those games, 2) lingering indoctrination(which has placed itself near every seat of power), with the finale being dealing with the reaper's last desperate attempt to revive "Leviathan" on the politically-hostile heavily-indoctrinated batarian homeworld.
But this is fanfiction material, so I'll stop now. I will say that this would the type of story I think people want from BioWare, not so much the action movie WHERE EVERY SECOND COUNTS!
EDIT: If I was in control of the series, I would have 2's finale be the end of the Reaper's plan for good(thus making it meaningful). 3 would be mostly about two things: 1) the aftermath of ME1 and 2's events, mainly Shepard's fame and the conflicting relationships made in those games, 2) lingering indoctrination(which has placed itself near every seat of power), with the finale being dealing with the reaper's last desperate attempt to revive "Leviathan" on the politically-hostile heavily-indoctrinated batarian homeworld.
But this is fanfiction material, so I'll stop now. I will say that this would the type of story I think people want from BioWare, not so much the action movie WHERE EVERY SECOND COUNTS!
AdventChild
Neo Member
bobnowhere said:
¿Does anyone else think that Ashley/Kaidan was in Horizon doing her/his Spectre admision mission?
What happened in Horizon is very similar to what happened on Eden Prime. In addition, Ashley/Kaidan was petrified, how she/he scaped that state?
kyo_daikun
Member
Rahxephon91 said:
If you let the council die they are replaced by members of their own species, they refuse to talk to Shepard in Mass effect 2 as you let their predecessors die, also humans are more disliked if you let the council die.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Jerk said:
This. The whole spectre thing is a little self-serving, badasses sacrifice themselves to save the universe and nobody might ever know, instead you get promoted to basically an intergalactic celebrity, alien children scholarship funds are named after you, there are hologram statues of you everywhere and you have endorsement deals, Bioware decided to ruin two other characters with the same shit they did to Sheppard, nothing is classified anymore.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Cool. I've never played the bad side and I always save the council as it seems to make the most sense story wise. Well to me at least since humanity is new and all, they need to prove they aren't total crap.kyo_daikun said:
Well I guess one bad thing I do is just interrupt the council during the debriefings, those are very funny.
ThoseDeafMutes
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EmCeeGramr said:
Let's cut them some slack. It's not like Ashley is alive in anybody's game anyway.