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Mass Effect |OT| Alien love in an elevator
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Kabouter said:
Games in general I meant - but everywhere I went to the day of release (got Mass Effect LE a day earlier) had the regular version at 60 - including E-Plaza and Media Markt...
It was nice to see that both stores looked to have sold well as there were only a few copies left in each store, and none of them had the LE, which I assume was sold out...
Playing for more than 15 hours now, I really enjoy this game alot. However, it's true that I sense that Bioware is not as talented as some other developers when it comes to graphics optimization. They are untouchable when it comes to dialogues, character development, and storylines, but they are not the top-tier folks for graphics fidelity. I know that they outsources to the Unreal engine, and that might be the culprit here, but the samething occured for their games on the Xbox. Just imagine what the game could've been with COD4 or Halo3's engine for framerates, textures, and loading...just awesome...
Tieno said:
Oh wow - had no idea it was region-free!
No wonder you aren't playing it yet... my impatience made me get it as soon as possible because my local store usually (and I say usually, because as of late, they are getting games later than even the chain stores now) and I needed that Limited Edition - good to know otherwise though!
Tieno
Member
Yeah, it hurts somewhat to wait, but it's a nice path for more affordable gaming. Ordered AC for 35euros (asian version is region free for that one and those versions are even cheaper than the US). That'll take a while to get here, cause that game was out of stock and is still backordered.Skilotonn said:
Just have to get over the fact of not getting games on release, but I've got no shortage of good games to play.
Tieno said:
Oh I agree with ya on that no doubt - I'm also ordering games I missed out on online right now, like Viva Pinata and Dead Rising, as well as new and future releases like The Orange Box, AC6, UT3 etc. for cheap too - Mass Effect was an exception as I needed this game since ladt year! :lol
thetrin said:
He's got a point (Don't agree on the inventory point. If you sell/convert any stuff you don't need regularly it never becomes more then a slight bother. Environments also seem fine to me.) but he is disregarding everything that makes me overlook those problems.
The fps is not optimal, but since it's not a twitch-shooter it's nothing gamebreaking to me. Besides, Mass Effect looks spectacular so it has that going for him. Add the good script, kickass voice acting, the amount of visitable planets and what not.
Look, RPG's are never ever gonna be as big as Baldur's Gate 2 anymore. It takes so much more time for a company to create an area the size of a BG2 area (due to the graphical improvements we made during the years ) that when you factor in the time it takes to create a big game, it just isn't viable to take 5 years or more on a game.
ME is not perfect, but the grist of the game is so good that I happily overlook the obvious flaws that come with a game this size, scope and potential.
The Lamonster
Member
Disappointed. You're missing out, buddy.GhaleonEB said:
Surprised. Your anime avatar is interesting...
Curious. When will you return to the dancing banana?
see what I did there?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
The Lamonster said:
Probably not. No Elcor on Eden Prime.
The Lamonster
Member
It was really for you guys... not that traitor (trader) Ghaleon.Skilotonn said:Sadly he won't, until he gets the game again...
I too would find this information very beneficial to my quest.X26 said:
btw anyone else in love with their female Shepard? She will be mine. Oh yes, she will be mine.
I hit a pretty sweet bug earlier where my Mako got stuck and could only move forward or backward within a certain small vicinity. I hit A to thrust and my Mako kept going higher and higher on the planet. It was amazing, I kept going up and up. Then all of a sudden gravity caught me again and I came plummetting down to the planet.
In my last hour of gametime too I've ran into two other encounters on foot where my Shepard character got stuck. Couldn't move, couldn't do anything. Once I saved I was ok and could move again. But in my Mako situation I was technically still in combat (even though no one was around) and couldn't save to get out of the situation. HOpe this isn't a big problem.
In my last hour of gametime too I've ran into two other encounters on foot where my Shepard character got stuck. Couldn't move, couldn't do anything. Once I saved I was ok and could move again. But in my Mako situation I was technically still in combat (even though no one was around) and couldn't save to get out of the situation. HOpe this isn't a big problem.
The Lamonster
Member
I hit a Mako bug on Feros. I parked it too close to a downed vehicle, and when I tried to re-enter there was no option because the front was stuck in the other vehicle. So I ended up having to walk and take down the enemies by hand. If you know the part of the game I'm talking about, you know how tedious yet rewarding on-footing that section can be! It's like a huge trench of death. Thanks Garrus, you're the best.Big-E said:
I disagree with a lot of the comparisons being made between the flaws of KOTOR/Jade Empire and Mass Effect. ME still has issues, but the overall experience is so much more polished than anything their previous games ever offered.
The framerate is often poor, but it's still far smoother than their XBOX games.
The loading can be annoying, but at least you're not pulled into loading screens every few feet. Mass Effect keeps you in the world. Some of the planets are huge and you are likely to spend a while playing through them, yet you rarely ever gaze upon a load screen. I just completed the Thorian planet and the size and quality of the areas you explore destroys their previous work. Side planets, which aren't really all that special, at least offer wide open areas to explore freely. The atmosphere is what really makes it, though.
I suppose it all depends on how you view the game. To me, Mass Effect feels like a massive adventure mixed with an action game. The combat may not be extremely deep, but I find it to be fun (unlike many RPGs). Having such a huge game to tear through with mechanics of this quality is fantastic. Furthermore, character interaction is appealing as a result of the fantastic visuals.
Many of the complaints aimed at the game make sense, but they somehow do not spoil it. I did not want a deep RPG experience here and I don't think they were intending to deliver such a game. You need to step back and play KOTOR again in order to appreciate just how much more polished Mass Effect is.
The framerate is often poor, but it's still far smoother than their XBOX games.
The loading can be annoying, but at least you're not pulled into loading screens every few feet. Mass Effect keeps you in the world. Some of the planets are huge and you are likely to spend a while playing through them, yet you rarely ever gaze upon a load screen. I just completed the Thorian planet and the size and quality of the areas you explore destroys their previous work. Side planets, which aren't really all that special, at least offer wide open areas to explore freely. The atmosphere is what really makes it, though.
I suppose it all depends on how you view the game. To me, Mass Effect feels like a massive adventure mixed with an action game. The combat may not be extremely deep, but I find it to be fun (unlike many RPGs). Having such a huge game to tear through with mechanics of this quality is fantastic. Furthermore, character interaction is appealing as a result of the fantastic visuals.
Many of the complaints aimed at the game make sense, but they somehow do not spoil it. I did not want a deep RPG experience here and I don't think they were intending to deliver such a game. You need to step back and play KOTOR again in order to appreciate just how much more polished Mass Effect is.
I agree with many of the complaints, but I think dark10x nailed it.
None of them really take away from the fact that Mass Effect had me glued to the TV for a near 40 hour marathon, and remains one of the most memorable RPGs -- nay, adventure games -- I've ever played.
None of them really take away from the fact that Mass Effect had me glued to the TV for a near 40 hour marathon, and remains one of the most memorable RPGs -- nay, adventure games -- I've ever played.
PG2G said:I have to agree with the complaints about the inventory system. There really is no rationalizing it. It is simply terrible, and made even worse because I have to keep revisiting the damn thing because of the 150 item limit.
That said, I love Mass Effect
Exactly, the game is so well done that I can overlook the dog shit inventory somewhat but I would just like to know how that passed when they initially got the game in playable form. Surely it wasn't too late to change it. Right now I have to take a break in the action all the time to just convert shit to omni gels even though I maxed that out by hour 15.
Lostconfused
Member
Note to a couple of people, you should be able to get back to the mako from the map screen. I don't exactly remember which button it is though, probably Y.
After 23 hours of gameplay (including letting it sit while on the PC or eating, etc.) and reaching level 23, with 21 completed side-quests and 10 still to be down at this point in time, I think it's time to finally move on with the main story - I haven't even gone to Feros or Noveria yet! :lol
And I know that this is still roughly half of the side-quests available, so I hope I can fight the temptation of letting the new ones that pop up slide!
And I know that this is still roughly half of the side-quests available, so I hope I can fight the temptation of letting the new ones that pop up slide!
Skilotonn said:
I recommend you do Feros (and Artemis Tau cluster to find Liara), then talk to all your party members, and do some more side quests, before doing Noveria. Also, go back to the Citadel for the newly unlocked side quests. Talking to your team between main quest missions, they say more and can give you more side quests related to their personal history.
When you beat the game, it's over, so do all the side quests you want before you do (think FF7).
Illuminati
Member
Holy crap, I wish I had a camera to take a picture of this. I think I got hit by one of those bionic pushes or lifts, except my guy's model turned into putty on the ground like Mr. Fantastic from the Fantastic 4. The character model's appendages were completely stretched and messed up. His arms and legs were 10ft long, his head\neck was twisted around so he was looking backwards. My character wouldn't get up even though he had life so I ended up reloading my last save point.
Buggy Loop said:
Almost the same for me. I got stuck at one time that#s about it.
MAss Effect is an awesome game and I had alot more fun wth it than with KOTOR. I am just sad that it's already over. On the other hand the shorter playthrough time makes it easier to do multiple playthroughs. In fact I already started with a new character and try to play totally different and see what happens.
Hopefully we don't have to wait too long for Mass Effect 2 and I hope I can import my character.
sixteen-bit
Member
GAF, is this true?
sixteen-bit
Member
Drew Barrymore
with makeup and awesome lighting
with makeup and awesome lighting
Zzoram said:
Already got Liara a long time back, and everyone's all talked out... :lol
I got the idea that they don't say anything else new until you progressed the main story missions like you found out as well - and a good bit of my newest side-quests came from the Citadel too - definitely gonna head back there once Feros is done too...
SPEA said:
What if mass effect 2 has the same issues, would it be ok then? I think bioware should work on those issues on their next game and if we don't take issue about them maybe bioware won't think they need to work on those issues for the next game.
With that said. I am loving this game. Mass Effect is alleviating the regretful feeling of buying an xbox 360. I presonally can do without the MAKO section of the game and wish there was less shooting. The "magio" or biotics seem like a second thought to the shooting.
I put in 35 hours on my first play through and only ran into 2 bugs. The first bug I encountered, and it only happen once, was the chatwheel getting stuck during a battle and the more frequent bug where you get stuck when running up hill-like terrain (which can be fixed by running in the opposite direction.
The inventory is ass, but I think its a result of bioware trying to simplify it.
The inventory is ass, but I think its a result of bioware trying to simplify it.
I don't care about the the frame rate or lod, whatever.
What does annoy me are bugs where I can't move. Especially when I'm in combat and can't save. I've never had this happen to me in Jade Empire or KOTOR.
Dark10x says Mass Effect is better than Bioware previous Xbox games on a technical level, and I disagree. I never had KOTOR or Jade Empire glitch on me like Mass Effect has, and it is dampering my experience with the game. These glitches seem like something I would expect from a 3rd rate overseas PC developer with their first retail project on a platform which has no standards for quality. Not Bioware. And not on the 360 where this stuff is supposed to be tested to be working.
What does annoy me are bugs where I can't move. Especially when I'm in combat and can't save. I've never had this happen to me in Jade Empire or KOTOR.
Dark10x says Mass Effect is better than Bioware previous Xbox games on a technical level, and I disagree. I never had KOTOR or Jade Empire glitch on me like Mass Effect has, and it is dampering my experience with the game. These glitches seem like something I would expect from a 3rd rate overseas PC developer with their first retail project on a platform which has no standards for quality. Not Bioware. And not on the 360 where this stuff is supposed to be tested to be working.
Android18a
Member
Yeah, I'm enjoying this game a lot, but I've had a number of issues:
- Poor loading. Randomly stops the action to load, sentences often freeze half-way through for a couple of seconds.
- Seems to be constantly streaming data, increasing risk of disc scratching. I got the game on saturday, and by today's lunchtime I was being thrown out of the game due to "dirty disc" errors - looked at the disc and it had the circular scratches around the edge. I fixed the disc with a DVDoctor, but it's still highly annoying to have a game screw you over within 24 hours.
- An enemy corpse got stuck in the floor, but kept twitching. Constantly, for ages. Funny, but probably not meant to happen.
- Many minor visual glitches and framerate issues.
Besides this technical stuff, the game is very well designed and the world is pretty well realised. I'm enjoying the branching conversations and the combat works well. I'm looking forward to the next game already, and praying Bioware can use EA's super budget to iron out the bugs.
- Poor loading. Randomly stops the action to load, sentences often freeze half-way through for a couple of seconds.
- Seems to be constantly streaming data, increasing risk of disc scratching. I got the game on saturday, and by today's lunchtime I was being thrown out of the game due to "dirty disc" errors - looked at the disc and it had the circular scratches around the edge. I fixed the disc with a DVDoctor, but it's still highly annoying to have a game screw you over within 24 hours.
- An enemy corpse got stuck in the floor, but kept twitching. Constantly, for ages. Funny, but probably not meant to happen.
- Many minor visual glitches and framerate issues.
Besides this technical stuff, the game is very well designed and the world is pretty well realised. I'm enjoying the branching conversations and the combat works well. I'm looking forward to the next game already, and praying Bioware can use EA's super budget to iron out the bugs.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
10 hours in and completely agree with ElyrionX's points.
The game is great but definetely not GOTY material.
Too many flaws holding it back most including the atrocious frame-rate and long loading times.
The dialogue and character development is fantastic however.
The game is great but definetely not GOTY material.
Too many flaws holding it back most including the atrocious frame-rate and long loading times.
The dialogue and character development is fantastic however.
OK so the ending fucking rocks.
I didn't have many bugs either, outside of a few teammates that didn't want to follow. Nothing that a quick save/reload didn't fix.
One thing for the sequel: I don't care so much about the framerate but the texture pop-in kinda dampered what were some of the best real-time sequences I've ever seen. Fix that pls.
Also, none of the ally-based achievements triggered for me, even though I spent 95% of the game with two specific teammates.
I didn't have many bugs either, outside of a few teammates that didn't want to follow. Nothing that a quick save/reload didn't fix.
One thing for the sequel: I don't care so much about the framerate but the texture pop-in kinda dampered what were some of the best real-time sequences I've ever seen. Fix that pls.
Also, none of the ally-based achievements triggered for me, even though I spent 95% of the game with two specific teammates.