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Massive Fire in High Rise Apartment in London
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JonnyDBrit
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Definitely getting the sense that people in that industry are pissed about this. It's the epitome of what their profession is meant to combat.
Shoosh now, the market will take care of everything...
Heartbreaking...
It sadly looks like it's getting out of control. I hope this doesn't go into full on riots like a few years ago. There clearly is a lot of anger and frustration beyond the fire.
Perfect example of what happens when the libertarians/free market sociopaths get their way.
Let this be forever used as a counterpoint the next time some rich fucking asshole tries to tell you that regulations will make him take your job away and that the invisible hand will take care of you.
A goddamn travesty.
Let this be forever used as a counterpoint the next time some rich fucking asshole tries to tell you that regulations will make him take your job away and that the invisible hand will take care of you.
A goddamn travesty.
jufonuk
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I fear this too.
Given the temp and weather forecast in London, I'd be surprised if there's not wide spread disturbances over the weekend. Could be worse than 2011, there's certainly far more of a 'valid' reason for people to be angry.
Yeah. It comes at a time when people are justifiably angry, and needs to be handled with a degree of care the current gov does not possess. At least Johnson isn't mayor now. He would fuck it up even further in short order
CelticKnight
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This sort of thing is what gets hi-jacked by people just looking to kick off. On the BBC, you could see people watching the footage of themselves on their mobiles and laughing, no reason to be there except just to be on TV and show off.
Sign the petition fam
This government must carry out an INQUEST into the Grenfell tragedy, not a public inquiry
Theresa May's decision to carry out a public inquiry into the Grenfell tragedy ensures that the government has control over any uncomfortable revelations about the negligence and poor planning of the Grenfell estate by the Tory-run Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea.
By choosing a PUBLIC INQUIRY the government protects itself as well as those who should be held accountable. It also blocks any possibility of an INQUEST from taking place: the necessary process that would unearth the true causes of the fire for the public interest.
Prevent the government from whitewashing the truth and from keeping the UK's planning and regulation laws in the dark ages any longer. Stand with the residents of Grenfell as well as the residents of the UK's 4,000 other tower blocks and make sure this does not happen again.
https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliam...nto-the-grenfell-tragedy-not-a-public-inquiry
This government must carry out an INQUEST into the Grenfell tragedy, not a public inquiry
Theresa May's decision to carry out a public inquiry into the Grenfell tragedy ensures that the government has control over any uncomfortable revelations about the negligence and poor planning of the Grenfell estate by the Tory-run Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea.
By choosing a PUBLIC INQUIRY the government protects itself as well as those who should be held accountable. It also blocks any possibility of an INQUEST from taking place: the necessary process that would unearth the true causes of the fire for the public interest.
Prevent the government from whitewashing the truth and from keeping the UK's planning and regulation laws in the dark ages any longer. Stand with the residents of Grenfell as well as the residents of the UK's 4,000 other tower blocks and make sure this does not happen again.
https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliam...nto-the-grenfell-tragedy-not-a-public-inquiry
JonnyDBrit
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Signed.
The fractured response to this must be absolutely frustrating.
The fractured response to this must be absolutely frustrating.
Whew, yeah good point. For a second there I thought the people in the council towers were actually angry about the fact that the government decided to go cheap and not fire protect their homes which resulted in a massive loss of life, but it's just a bunch of hooligans getting off.
Nothing to see here, no reason to see these protests as legitimate. Let's just stomp out these opportunistic criminal ruffians protesting, jail them as an example to other criminals, and carry on as we did before.
Pretty much.
CelticKnight
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That's not what I said and you fucking know it. Go twist somebody elses words.
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Not sure how they could take it the way that they did.
Unfortunately your exact same point is what the right wing uses to hand wave away any legitimate reasons for people being angry. It makes it very difficult to discern intent.
jufonuk
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I think he was being sarcastic
JonnyDBrit
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May apparently promising a £5 million fund to support families.
jufonuk
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how about safer housing conditions
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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People should be fucking furious, its insane this has been allowed to happen. Tories, privatisation, cuts as per usual.
edit - there's no video in that twitter link?
edit - there's no video in that twitter link?
Greg Hands, Conservative MP for Chelsea & Fulham, is complaining about be evacuated
the irony is apparently lost on him.
the irony is apparently lost on him.
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Luxury flat down the road probably costs more.
CelticKnight
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True, it's a fair point, but just to put it out there the last thing I am is a Tory voter. My worry is just that some people kicking off that have sod all to do with it will make it harder for real things to be accomplished. Hell, even people at the protest were telling people to back off and chill out.
But I'm sorry for swearing. We cool, group hug.
always crazy bacon
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What's the weather report? The British only riot when it's warm outside.
Going to be the hottest weekend of the year, up to 30 in London
Quick the peasants are getting angry, let's try something.
"Theresa May announces £5 million fund for emergency supplies, food & clothing for #GrenfellTower fire survivors"
"Theresa May announces £5 million fund for emergency supplies, food & clothing for #GrenfellTower fire survivors"
This weekend is going to be very hot by British standards...
autumnleaf
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Let them eat cake
George Oscar Bluth II
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Me and my sister are on the way there.
JonnyDBrit
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So apparently the government's aim is to have people re-housed - so settled in, instead of in hotels, I presume - within no later than three weeks.
Fakeknowledge
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Signed. There aren't strong enough words for this, answers and accountability should be the bare fucking minimum.
holygeesus
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There was one staircase and it was on fire. Literally no way out. I'm hearing reports that there were exposed gas lines running up the stairwell too.
JonnyDBrit
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https://twitter.com/EthioEmbassyUK/status/875734419717464066
8 British Nationals of Ethiopian origin still missing, including one whole family, according to the Ethiopian embassy.
8 British Nationals of Ethiopian origin still missing, including one whole family, according to the Ethiopian embassy.
And this was refurbished when ?? Baffling that it's not flat out illegal to only have one exit on a building this large.
The exposed gas lines would be absolute insanity too if that's true.
I don't understand why external fire escape staircases haven't been fitted to these old buildings? The ex-housing minister was on 5 Live earlier today and said they're standard in the US but frowned upon here. Why? Because they don't look nice?
That said, with the entire sides of the buildings on fire due to the cladding, they wouldn't have been much use in this scenario anyway.
These are the types of people the last 7 years of Tory Austerity have affected. They took their support then burnt them in their unsafe homes while they slept.
obvious hyperbole.
Good. It's just a shame it took a protest to get it. Why wasn't this announced yesterday? Surely it doesn't take her that long to get Hammond to sign the cheque?
I hope the survivors get the mental health support they require too for PTSD both now and in the long-term.
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