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Just stick to hyping AI crap no one wants rather than say that it's somehow bad a not limited edition console hasn't sold out for preorders.

Mat Piscatella (@matpiscatella.bsky.social)

Deleted last because it seemed like engagement bait. Just stick to hyping AI crap no one wants rather than say that it's somehow bad a not limited edition console hasn't sold out for preorders.

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[T-0800]

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

 

[solidus12]

Tom Warren is an Xbox shill, so he needs to put the PS5 Pro in a bad light.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Anyone wanna take bets that the PS5 Pro will outsell one of the Xbox Series consoles in November?

 

[Topher]

So Piscatella is saying it is bad that PS5 Pro hasn't sold out and he was arguing with Tom Warren about it?

 

[LordOcidax]

Tom Warren is an Xbox shill, so he needs to put the PS5 Pro in a bad light.

Sony himself put the PS5 Pro in a bad light with the price…

 

[Oddvintagechap]

how is it a direct response?

 

[Bernardougf]

It didnt sold out ? I thought it did in the bigger markets.

 

[analog_future]

It didnt sold out ? I thought it did in the bigger markets.

Still available now in all major markets if you want it.

 

[Kacho]

That's all it took to trigger Mat? Dude seems very easily agitated.

 

[diffusionx]

That's all it took to trigger Mat? Dude seems very easily agitated.

It’s an extremely stupid thing to say

 

[Bernardougf]

Still available now in all major markets if you want it.

Oh.. didnt know that.. in my country is still avaible but the price here is ridiculous 1.250 dollars.

 

[Kacho]

It’s an extremely stupid thing to say

Because?

 

[Topher]

That's all it took to trigger Mat? Dude seems very easily agitated.

lol...he was responding to that? I was hoping he would calm his tits once he left twitter, but obviously that is not the case.

 

[Cornbread78]

Tom Warren is an Xbox shill, so he needs to put the PS5 Pro in a bad light.

 

[ChiefDada]

So Piscatella is saying it is bad that PS5 Pro hasn't sold out and he was arguing with Tom Warren about it?

I think it was the other way around; Tom suggesting it was a bad sign that Pro didn't sell out.

 

[adamsapple]

The wording is so confusing.

Mat is telling Tom to stick to talking about AI because the PS5 Pro is not selling out?

what?

 

[Topher]

I think it was the other way around; Tom suggesting it was a bad sign that Pro didn't sell out.

I think Mat misunderstood Tom and flew off the handle. Tom saying the price is why it will be widely available. This response makes no sense....

"Just stick to hyping AI crap no one wants rather than say that it's somehow bad a not limited edition console hasn't sold out for preorders."

 

[ChiefDada]

I think Mat misunderstood Tom and flew off the handle. Tom saying the price is why it will be widely available. This response makes no sense....

"Just stick to hyping AI crap no one wants rather than say that it's somehow bad a not limited edition console hasn't sold out for preorders."

Tom knows what he's up to with the insinuation, which is why Matt responded the way he did. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Gamerguy84]

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

These posts make as much sense as the original FF7 localization.

 

[Kacho]

The wording is so confusing.

Mat is telling Tom to stick to talking about AI because the PS5 Pro is not selling out?

what?

Yes. Mat got flustered and went full George Costanza.

 

[Topher]

Tom knows what he's up to with the insinuation, which is why Matt responded the way he did. Just my 2 cents.

Whatever the insinuation, Mat seems to be taking issue with Tom for not calling PS5 Pro being available "bad".

 

[DinoD]

Tom Warren is f...ing idiot! . PS4 Pro was available as 'walk in store' purchase from day 1. Never was out of stock since.

Also.

* both PS5 and Xbox series sold out initially at launch. Mainly due to to COVID scarcity. supply/demand.
* PS4 was available at launch everywhere. Don't remember being sold out for pre-orders .
* we don't know how many units Sony supplied for pre-orders
* I could go on but CBF

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Whatever the insinuation, Mat seems to be taking issue with Tom for not calling PS5 Pro being available "bad".

Cuz Mat can see through the BS lol

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Whatever the insinuation, Mat seems to be taking issue with Tom for not calling PS5 Pro being available "bad".

Tom is saying it's bad. It can't be understood any other way.

 

[diffusionx]

Because?

I explained it in another thread. There is no reason for Sony to be unable to make as many PS5 Pros as needed. It has nothing to do with the price or anything.

Gamers have been conditioned to think that if a console doesn’t sell out it’s failing but that’s just wrong. Console selling out means the hardware maker didn’t do their job. Apple can make and sell as many iPhones as are wanted and it’s tens of millions within a week of launch.

 

[Topher]

Cuz Mat can see through the BS lol

Tom is saying it's bad. It can't be understood any other way.

Then why is Mat calling him out for not saying it is "bad"?

I'm not defending Tom. I'm trying to understand wtf mat is trying to say.

 

[XXL]

We need context to know if it's good or bad.

Was there 100K units available and they haven't sold out?

Was there 5M units available and they haven't sold out?

It sounds like Mat suggesting it's the latter.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I'm not defending Tom. I'm trying to understand wtf mat is trying to say

isn't more like:

Tom is not sales guy Mat is?

edit : "stay in your lane, dude" Maybe Tom's tweets are fueling console wars bs.

 

[AmuroChan]

Sony should've just manufactured more 30th anniversary edition Pros. I would've happily paid the $1000 for it.

 

[Deerock71]

Yes. Mat got flustered and went full George Costanza.

 

[diffusionx]

We need context to know if it's good or bad.

Was there 100K units available and they haven't sold out?

Was there 5M units available and they haven't sold out?

It sounds like Mat suggesting it's the latter.

They’ll make as many as they need to. It’s not 2020 with fucked up supply chains all over the place anymore.

 

[XXL]

Then why is Mat calling him out for not saying it is "bad"?

I'm not defending Tom. I'm trying to understand wtf mat is trying to say.

It sounds like Mat is saying....

"You have no idea what you're talking about Tom, so shut the fuck up"

Which would be more leaning towards suggesting they are in good supply.

 

[Topher]

It sounds like Mat is saying....

"You have no idea what you're talking about Tom, so shut the fuck up"

Which would be more leaning towards suggesting they are in good supply.

I think what Mat is trying to say is "Just say it plainly. PS5 Pro not selling out is bad". Of course, he could have just said that as well so he's just as bad if that's his take.

Disregard. This is wrong

 

[onQ123]

Basically he is saying it's a good thing that a none limited edition console isn't sold out in the 1st few days of pre-order & not a bad thing.



Just look at the design of the PS5 Pro it's meant to be sold along with the PS5 & not something that a few hardcore gamers buy. Sony made enough

 

[Cornbread78]

I think Mat misunderstood Tom and flew off the handle. Tom saying the price is why it will be widely available. This response makes no sense....

"Just stick to hyping AI crap no one wants rather than say that it's somehow bad a not limited edition console hasn't sold out for preorders."

No, Tom is a smart dude & very faithful to his company of choice. He knew exactly what he trying to say....


I also don't think anyone thinks the system is going to sell more than 15 mil units. It's an enthuiasts piece of tech and nothing more.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Will be interesting to see how PS5 does in September across multiple trackers. It will also be interesting to see what Sony reports on their quarterlies and whether this puts Sony back on track for 18 million units for the fiscal year.

My guess is that they're able to very easily produce PS5 Pros.

It's almost entirely the same internals as the PS5 Slim. I wonder if they'll release a new slim model that has WiFi 7 to further simplify.

The biggest differences between the PS5 Slim and PS5 Pro are the chassis including the board having USB-C across the board up front, the larger SSD, and the GPU. I'm sure they can build as many of these as they want.

But it's also possible that the demand is truly lower than expected, despite initially selling out in every region. They haven't announced anything, but they haven't been quick to announce these things. We don't even have Astro Bot numbers.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

No, Tom is a smart dude & very faithful to his company of choice. He knew exactly what he trying to say....


I also don't think anyone thinks the system is going to sell more than 15 mil units. It's an enthuiasts piece of tech and nothing more.

I think how many units it sells will have a lot to do with GTA6 and what pro enhancements it has.

 

[onQ123]

It sounds like Mat is saying....

"You have no idea what you're talking about Tom, so shut the fuck up"

Which would be more leaning towards suggesting they are in good supply.

This Tom is trying to make it sound like a bad thing when it's really a good thing.

 

[Cornbread78]

I think how many units it sells will have a lot to do with GTA6 and what pro enhancements it has.

True, but it would have to be more widely supported by 3rd partys and not having CoD or any of the traditionally janky Beth stuff enhanced is gonna hurt.

 

[XXL]

I also don't think anyone thinks the system is going to sell more than 15 mil units.

I think 15M+ LTD is realistic for PS5 Pro if its available for 3-4 years.

PS5 just sold around 30M units in the last 18 months or so.

 

[Topher]

Basically he is saying it's a good thing that a none limited edition console isn't sold out in the 1st few days of pre-order & not a bad thing.

Ah....ok. I think I understand what Mat is saying now. Honestly, it is really easy to read it the other way around though.

 

[XXL]

I think what Mat is trying to say is "Just say it plainly. PS5 Pro not selling out is bad". Of course, he could have just said that as well so he's just as bad if that's his take.

I agree the wording isn't great regardless.

 

[Topher]

I agree the wording isn't great regardless.

Yeah....pretty bad.

"A non-limited edition console not selling out is not a bad thing"

That's what he should have said.

 

[Rockman33]

Tom Warren is f...ing idiot! . PS4 Pro was available as 'walk in store' purchase from day 1. Never was out of stock since.

Also.

* both PS5 and Xbox series sold out initially at launch. Mainly due to to COVID scarcity. supply/demand.
* PS4 was available at launch everywhere. Don't remember being sold out for pre-orders .
* we don't know how many units Sony supplied for pre-orders
* I could go on but CBF

Tom Warren may or may not be a f’n idiot but your facts are wrong.

Ps4pro was often hard to find. Not sure if it was a supply problem or demand. But it wasn’t “easily” found throughout its life cycle.

Ps5 and series X were hard to find for well over a year. Not sure what the hell you’re talking about.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

True, but it would have to beore widely supported by 3rd partys and not having CoD or any of the traditianally janky Beth stuff enhanced is gonna hurt.

Could you rewrite this?

 

[Kacho]

I explained it in another thread. There is no reason for Sony to be unable to make as many PS5 Pros as needed. It has nothing to do with the price or anything.

Gamers have been conditioned to think that if a console doesn’t sell out it’s failing but that’s just wrong. Console selling out means the hardware maker didn’t do their job. Apple can make and sell as many iPhones as are wanted and it’s tens of millions within a week of launch.

Sony will make enough to meet their estimated demand. The PS Portal sold out because Sony underestimated demand (smartly so).

Whether the Pro sells well or not is anyone's guess, but it's not out of the question to assume the price point will have an impact on how well it does. Especially in this economy.

 

[onQ123]

No, Tom is a smart dude & very faithful to his company of choice. He knew exactly what he trying to say....


I also don't think anyone thinks the system is going to sell more than 15 mil units. It's an enthuiasts piece of tech and nothing more.

The price is high but PS5 Pro is meant for mainstream like the Edge Controller & Portal.