They're an abstentionist party when it comes to Westminster. They refuse to swear an oath of allegiance to the monarch and don't recognise UK rule in any part of Ireland.
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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!
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They're an abstentionist party when it comes to Westminster. They refuse to swear an oath of allegiance to the monarch and don't recognise UK rule in any part of Ireland.
So no English party does get elected. They want Northern Ireland independent from England.
Everyone saying the NHS is being abused left and right when it's considered one of the most efficient sistems in europe? You deserve american's healthcare sistem England voters. Europe is falling apart to this shit right-wing propaganda of free market and privatization that has NEVER held to standards aparts from making citizens' quality of life shitter.
Captain_Spanky
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Wow you are a terrible person. Lots of benefits are for low income households and as for depression being a "weak disability"...that's just a horrific lack of empathy right there. Terrible. You should be ashamed of yourself.
CyclopsRock
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This election will become the new 1992. People are going to talk about this for decades. We witnessed history unfold before us today, guys!
Pankratous
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So you're telling me the only reason they want votes
Is so those votes can't go elsewhere?
What the fuck?
I read somewhere that there's a saying among French politicians; "only the English are stupid enough to privatise their water".
Sinn Feinn wants Northern Ireland to leave the United Kingdom. It is not like they can achieve this by letting Tories rule them even more directly.
They still represent their constituents and will go to London for meetings. Not taking their seat doesn't preclude them from doing that.
Well if not welfare cuts/austerity measures, what else are we supposed to talk about regarding Tory policy?
Should we talk about how much better off we are under the Tories, economically, than the last Labour lot?
Well... we still haven't reached pre-recession levels of the New Labour years.
I suppose we could talk about the double dip recession... or something... No forget it.
What will be will be.
Lots of speeches to hear this morning.
Should we talk about how much better off we are under the Tories, economically, than the last Labour lot?
Well... we still haven't reached pre-recession levels of the New Labour years.
I suppose we could talk about the double dip recession... or something... No forget it.
What will be will be.
Lots of speeches to hear this morning.
Vivalaraza
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I wonder what the post election meltdowns were like back in the day when there was a genuine distinction between the two leading parties.
Paul Mason nails it here IMO
http://blogs.channel4.com/paul-mason-blog/labour-failed-win-worse/3671
God knows where we (ie. anyone on the left in England) go from here.
http://blogs.channel4.com/paul-mason-blog/labour-failed-win-worse/3671
God knows where we (ie. anyone on the left in England) go from here.
Black Republican
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i musta feel asleep when Natalie Benett lost, oh wow. didnt expect that
I suppose they'll move to the right. But I really don't think they lost for being too left. Forgive my cynicism but I don't think the much of the electorate base their in vote on policy, at least when the policies aren't fairly radical on one end of the scale or the other. It's mostly PR; I've heard my mum parroting opinions on Milliband and Sturgeon straight of the Sun which she reads every day.
Ed Miliband just wasn't the right man for the job. The party needs a total rebranding at this point.
It was electricity - "Theres only one country thats stupid enough to sell off its electricity industry, and thats Britain".
Much like 'être de Birmingham', I doubt it's ever been said by more than three random Frenchmen.
I'm confused, is Maths different south of the border?
Lashley
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And the Irish beat them to it.
Would have happened without them regardless unless your sums are wrong. Labour themselves secured a conservative run country based on their performance, unfortunately.
I get the feeling that the poster wasn't really conveying himself well, so his message may have been lost (looks like English is not their first, or even second language).
Scotland showing the rest of us how it's done. Get why my parents moved back there now.
Fucking hell. We'll see an independant Scotland in the next decade or so I think.
It's certainly thought by many of them; you can see the sentiment from GZZZ above.
SymbiantXenos
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Congrats Britain for voting for five years of misery. You have no right to complain on the nightmare to come.
It's Reyn Time!
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For those of you who haven't lived it and don't know anyone else who has, there were already measures in place to weed out fraudulent disability benefits claimants under Labour, and it worked perfectly well. The Conservatives simply raised the thresholds required to qualify for them to the point where virtually nobody is able to claim them while giving the private agencies targets for numbers of people to remove from benefits. This has directly resulted in countless deaths be they through suicide, lack of support or in some cases even actual starvation. These are documented things which are actually happening.
It is literally evil, and some of you supported that so you might pay slightly less tax.
It is literally evil, and some of you supported that so you might pay slightly less tax.
Hey we did that!
That´d be hilarious if true, given the French troubles with their state run electricity...
CyclopsRock
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https://vine.co/v/emavehj2FIY
Al's face!
No idea where Labour go from here re: leadership. I'm worried they might blow their beans on Chuka or Tristram but I think they're both too young. If they go for it and fail, they will - like Hague - never be able to do it again in the future when they'd probably be better off. That said they don't have much top-table talent left. Burnham is favourite but it's hard to see him invigorating people's interest in the left. Everyone loves Alan Johnson but he just doesn't want it. Cooper?
Al's face!
No idea where Labour go from here re: leadership. I'm worried they might blow their beans on Chuka or Tristram but I think they're both too young. If they go for it and fail, they will - like Hague - never be able to do it again in the future when they'd probably be better off. That said they don't have much top-table talent left. Burnham is favourite but it's hard to see him invigorating people's interest in the left. Everyone loves Alan Johnson but he just doesn't want it. Cooper?
anonymous_abc
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Farange is out, UKIP will drop off the radar.
Did he just say he might stand again in the summer?
Did he just say he might stand again in the summer?
Carl2291
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When you actually look at what he did with UKIP, its quite impressive. Turned them from a nothing party, to one that won the EU elections and gained 4 Million votes in the GE.
Its gonna be really interesting to see the direction UKIP takes without him.
As Im writing this, I just heard him say that he will consider running for leadership again.
BlazingDarkness
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Farage has resigned
I said it earlier, but if we vote out of the EU, I think we'll see it this term. It will pretty much show how at odds Scotland is with England politically and will probably be the best move at that point.
Jezbollah
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Yeah. Caveated this, didnt he?
Yeah.
Now the dust has settled, from a selfish point of view I'm probably not too bad off with a con government.
Upping the Inheritance Tax threshold will make a big difference, in x number of years, I'm moving away from the "need" for child tax credits (hopefully). Living in Wales education and NHS are protected.
But I'm gutted.
Really really gutted.
And still in shock.
Upping the Inheritance Tax threshold will make a big difference, in x number of years, I'm moving away from the "need" for child tax credits (hopefully). Living in Wales education and NHS are protected.
But I'm gutted.
Really really gutted.
And still in shock.
Jimmyfenix
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Scotland showing the rest of us how it's done. Get why my parents moved back there now.
Yup everyone I know and me included voted for snp
Pretty amazing at tgethe result here.
Juke Joint Jezebel
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Whoops, my bad. Brain fart! Although it's still crazy when you think about it. 9 entire percent of the vote went to SNP, it just made the gap between labour and the conversative all the larger. Quite a huge chunk when you think about it, hilarious that the libs are in a distant fourth now, with the DUP sharing the same amount of seats.
UKIP getting over 3 million votes was the biggest shocker though! Enjoying this reshuffling of voting expectations in the lower end of the spectrum, it feels fresh and interesting to say the least!
UKIP getting over 3 million votes was the biggest shocker though! Enjoying this reshuffling of voting expectations in the lower end of the spectrum, it feels fresh and interesting to say the least!
I don´t think so.
I think, Cameron will have to hold his Brexit referendum even earlier then promised, which will bring the UKIP out in full force.
so much fucking this
Jezbollah
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This is the SNP Nuking Labour from orbit.
Vivalaraza
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We very well might do but worth saying at this point that I think Scotland as a nation has voted for unionist parties > SNP purely in terms of popular vote.
I think?
CyclopsRock
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Farage are gone, and UKIP are dead. They came 2nd in about 150 constituencies, but they're dead now imo. By the time of the next election we'll have had an EU referendum, and a Tory majority government. Even without Farage leaving, that'd eat into their voteshare a LOT. With him gone, replaced but OFlynn or Nuttall or Carswell they just won't get anything close to the same appeal.
Bet Carswell's regretting his decision now...
Bet Carswell's regretting his decision now...
He is, but is saying he may stand for leader again. Lol. Cop out.
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