The problem I have with the NHS cuts is that it's never properly mandated. Money can be saved (although I don't agree with how much the Tories want to cut it), but the layer that can be cut are the ones tasked with making savings and for obvious reasons, they won't cut themselves.
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Yea, will mainly affect people with sight and hearing problems. Not the whole of the UK.
I guess this is true across almost all organisations in the universe though. The nature of the
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Nope.
http://www.england.nhs.uk/ourwork/forward-view/sop/
Worth a read away from the arm flapping hyperbole. This was before a further 8 billion was pledged.
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So. Scotland likely to become independent within 5 years and Cameron to be the UK's last prime minister.
Well done Britain.
Well done Britain.
This is what Cam did so successfully on health and education.
Everyone knows Police cuts are coming.
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Boundary changes
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The Daily Telegraph is reporting that the re-drawing of constituency boundaries "to lock Labour out of power for decades" is a priority for the new Conservative government.
The paper says senior Tories see this as "unfinished business" because the Lib Dems blocked such changes during the last parliament
Boundary changes
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The Daily Telegraph is reporting that the re-drawing of constituency boundaries "to lock Labour out of power for decades" is a priority for the new Conservative government.
The paper says senior Tories see this as "unfinished business" because the Lib Dems blocked such changes during the last parliament
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Oh do fuck off. I forgot they tried this.
So. Scotland likely to become independent within 5 years and Cameron to be the UK's last prime minister.
Well done Britain.
As someone who is hugely in favour of Scottish independence and reads a lot about it, I don't think this is likely at all.
Sure, a big showing of nationalist support up there, but that doesn't mean shit to the UK government when we just had a referendum not 10 months ago and the small majority said 'no'.
You replied to the wrong person I think – but this is a good post you made.
However the funding has gone to commissioners. This doesn't stop the ground-level, actually-important shit like nurses being denied a 1% pay rise.
SymbiantXenos
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That democracy in action.
Vivalaraza
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Theres no way they're getting another chance at it in this parliament.So. Scotland likely to become independent within 5 years and Cameron to be the UK's last prime minister.
Well done Britain.
It's not even a 'Southern' thing either.
The worrying thing looking at this is that it's "Legacy" Labour.
You're looking at a sea of blue interrupted by South Yorkshire and North Derbyshire, the North East, South Wales, Greater Manchester and Merseyside.. all places haunted by Thatcher.
In terms of modern, progressive politics in the modern climate for a 2015 election, Labour has brought fuck all to the table. They're not winning anything off their own campaign. Simply supported by the same holdouts in the North (of which I live in one).
They've had an absolute shitshow.
That
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I can't agree. The huge vote for SNP gives then a unrivalled mandate to push for another vote.
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Not the whole story though really. It's almost like they had more to do. Oh wait...
There's your pressure on absolutely everything, but it's deeply unfashionable to talk about it, from the period starting 2004 approximately 2 million of that is net migration, which forms around half of the increase. Around 2004 is where migration really started to happen in high numbers, as you can see if you deduct that number you get a graph without the sudden acceleration in the mid-2ks. So it is entirely fair to say that migration has put significant pressure on the country.
And that's why people vote UKIP even though single issue parties are a wasted ballot paper.
The rest is people breeding like rabbits as usual.
Yea 5 years is optimistic, and would probably be ill advised, but independence is inevitable at this point.
I hope for our sake that you're right.
And your sake
– you being all the soundos who'd rather move up here than live under subtle Tory horror
Not the whole story though really. It's almost like they had more to do. Oh wait...
There's your pressure on absolutely everything, but it's deeply unfashionable to talk about it, from the period starting 2004 approximately 2 million of that is net migration, which forms around half of the increase.
And that's why people vote UKIP even though single issue parties are a wasted ballot paper.
The rest is people breeding like rabbits.
This is important, and probably the main factor, but it doesn't change the fact that they aren't treating grass-roots NHS services very well. And also the aforementioned 'ringfencing' which might not have made a big difference up until now, but has allowed the Tories to set the guillotine up right above the NHS's neck
Yup
I was properly wide-eyed when I saw that map earlier. That more than anything else brought home just how much blue we have now.It's not even a 'Southern' thing either.
Pankratous
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Talking to my friend on Facebook.
"Just went into the kitchen to make dinner, and when I was ready to eat and returned to the living room, I found an SNP candidate in my seat."
"haha, really?!"
..............
Do jokes really go over peoples heads that easily?
"Just went into the kitchen to make dinner, and when I was ready to eat and returned to the living room, I found an SNP candidate in my seat."
"haha, really?!"
..............
Do jokes really go over peoples heads that easily?
Thinking back to Thatchers courting of the police in preparation for her battles against the working class, this would seem pretty short sighted and ill-thought out if true.
No, privatisation is happening at a slower rate than under Labour. More arm flapping.
Saying that privatisation isn't inherently a bad thing for some things.
If the likes of Bupa or specialist fertility clinics have spare capacity then why not?
PJV3
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40% of Contracts this year have gone to the private sector, the total is only 6% of the total nhs budget. It depends if it carries on at that rate or not.
The 40% figure came out after an FOI request.
Very true, but with someone like the NHS, I feel that any cost exploration should be done totally independently, if such a thing is possible.
It's one of those things, like I admire what Government Digital Services has accomplished since they became a thing, but the way they're setup isn't sustainable as an efficient body.
Dr Zhivago
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That map's a bit misleading, Tory constituencies tend to be larger in area.
anonymous_abc
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Good point - it is totally possible. But it would cost even more to get third party auditors in. The sustainability is key, I guess - interesting GDS link
Vivalaraza
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I've no doubt the NHS will continue to suffer under the Tories but can anybody say with any real conviction that it would fare well under Labour?
I mean I v oted for Labour but in my mind the NHS is fucked either way. A few extra billion from Labour won't be enough.
We need a fresh approach to it entirely.
I mean I v oted for Labour but in my mind the NHS is fucked either way. A few extra billion from Labour won't be enough.
We need a fresh approach to it entirely.
You've got my vote.
I'm actually in agreement that the boundaries need to be changed with the changing population, but the recommendations need to be proven to be independent AND I'd almost recommend putting it to a public vote as a whole.
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Read: "We sure hope the UK stays in the EU, or else we'll lose our most important lobbyist". It's no secret the only reason Cameron wants the UK inside is so he can act as Trojan Horse for US-proposed plans like TTIP.
Did the Guardian update their fatUK map?
But don't the current boundaries already unfairly favour Labour?
Pay is a subjective issue that will be sorted one way or another. The private sector has dealt with similar pressures also.
Sigh, more bollocks articles. Privatisation under the last government was at a much slower pace than Labour.
Source?
hydragonwarrior
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So how conservative is this conservative party vs the one in the US?
Already discussed in the Poligaf thread.
Anything that adds weight to the pro-EU argument is OK by me, if that referendum is necessary which it seems like it is.
I mentioned earlier in the thread (when it was racing at a million miles an hour), but is it naive of me to want that referendum in the hope that it puts the issue to bed for good? Or is an out vote a real possibility?
Then I can assume that a source would be simple enough to produce instead of calling BS and asking me to go to trawl through another thread...
To the left of the Democrats probably.
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